Here are some messages to read to get hints on installing the new
shells (and windows) on a lan:

#: 67427 S1/General Info/Misc.
24-May-90 06:29:27
Sb: #67395-3.01 shgen problem
Fm: Jeffrey R. Drumm 76655,3322
To: Robert Wessel 75170,32

SHGEN works fine off a local hard drive (and the network, I presume) if you
place SHGEN.EXE in a directory all by itself, and all of the files supplied
in DSWIN2.ZIP, as well as the IPX.OBJ file from DSWIN1.ZIP into a
subdirectory named SHGEN-1 off of the directory in which SHGEN.EXE resides.
Took a little experimentation to figure this out, but no problems since. If
you've got third party LAN drivers to load, just make the appropriate
sub-directory (LAN_DRV_.???) off of the directory in which SHGEN.EXE
resides. Here's what I used:

\NETWARE
SHGEN.EXE (from DSWIN2.ZIP)
\SHGEN-1
Contents of DSWIN2.ZIP
IPX.OBJ from DSWIN1.ZIP
\LAN_DRV_.???
*.LAN
*.OBJ
.
.
.
It works fine for me. The new IPX.COM winds up in \NETWARE\SHGEN-1.

For those who haven't yet bothered, DSWIN3.ZIP and DSWIN4.ZIP are most
definitely worth the download time. The new MAP and LOGIN provide for false
roots (and LOGIN has LOTS of other goodies) and NDIR seems to have speeded up
(as well as received a menu interface). FLAG got a little buggered though,
NRW is no longer a valid option (gotta use N all by itself instead).

Jeff (@MaineMedical)



#: 16115 S2/Upgrades
30-May-90 18:14:47
Sb: #Install 3.01
Fm: Andy Fraser 71301,637
To: All

Notes on how to upgrade your Novell shell with the upgrade disks:

Download the four DSWIN files, unZIP them onto four floppies, and change the
set the volume name of the floppies to the following:

Disk contents Required volume name

DSWIN1 doesn't seem to need a name
DSWIN2 SHGEN-1
DSWIN3 UTIL-1
DSWIN4 UTIL-2

In addition to the four DSWIN files, you will also need the .LAN and .OBJ file
for the particular Ethernet card you have installed. You already have these
files somewhere, or the person who originally installed your present Novell
driver has them. The
LAN and .OBJ files are likely on the SHGEN-1 or LAN_DRV disks used previously,
probably not on your hard drive anymore.

Copy the IPX.OBJ file from the DSWIN1 disk to the SHGEN-1 disk. Copy your .LAN
file onto the SHGEN-1 disk. Have the Ethernet card's .OBJ file ready on a
disk with the volume name of LAN_DRV_002 (it's possible your system will
accept the file on the SHGEN-1 disk, or a LAN_DRV_001 disk).

Before proceeding, reset your PCX without loading IPX or NETx. After it's up,
type IPX then NETx (NET3 or NET4) and watch for what interrupt and Ethernet
card I/O address is being used.

Place the SHGEN-1 disk into drive A, change to drive A, type SHGEN.

The screen will show a typical Novell window, and present various menus to
chose the type of card, interrupt and card I/O address to use, and so on. It
will then create the new IPX.COM file, and leave it on the SHGEN-1 floppy.

Rename your old IPX.COM to, for example, WIN2IPX.COM in case the new one
doesn't work. Also rename your NETx.COM file to WIN2NETx.COM (x is 3 or 4,
depending whether you're using DOS 3 or 4).

Copy the new IPX.COM onto your hard drive. Copy either NETx.COM, EMSNETx.COM,
or XMSNETx.COM onto your hard drive, depending on whether you're going to be
using NET in main memory, expanded (true LIM 4.0, not emulated) memory, or
extended memory (up in HIMEM.SYS I expect). Change your AUTOEXEC.BAT or
LAN.BAT file as required for the new NET file.

[continued]

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#: 16116 S2/Upgrades
30-May-90 18:17:06
Sb: #16115-Install 3.01
Fm: Andy Fraser 71301,637
To: Andy Fraser 71301,637 (X)

[continued]

Re-boot your PC. Start Windows. The network should now be available there.
The network drives will show up in the File Manager, the Print Manager will
let you watch the network printer queue, and you can make a PIF file for
Novell's mail.exe. Mail is also nicely integrated; when an express mail
message is received, a window pops up in the middle of the screen announcing
it's arrival.

..These procedures and observations were based on installing the shell on my
AT with DOS 3.21, and using the plain NET file, and should be very close to
what would work on your PC. Better than the (lack of) instructions Novell
provided. I expect installing it on a 386 or using the extended or expanded
NETs will also work fine, but haven't tried them yet. I also have not changed
any of the files on the server, as discussed in DOC.TXT; I don't know whether
they need to be if only a workstation is being upgraded.

Hope this helps clarify what to do with that megabyte you've downloaded! It
is nice to have Word 5, mail, and everything else available from Windows.

-=Andy~

#: 54635 S1/Servers & Workstn
29-May-90 20:29:40 Thread= Parent=
Sb: #54596-3.01 SHGEN floppy frenzy
Fm: Ken Jones 73135,1243
To: ken westerback 73547,3520

Say Ken,

Clever, isn't it, that the docs talk about three disks, and there're FOUR Zip
files... Inspect the docs and check to see which collection of files is a
UTIL, which is a SHGEN or whatever, AND NAME THE FLOPPIES APPROPRIATELY using
the DOS LABEL command. Works for me. and that fourth disk is a do it
yourself public, I think.

Cheers.

#: 54493 S3/Printing
29-May-90 06:18:19 Thread= Parent=
Sb: #54476-3.0 Shells
Fm: Mickey Applebaum(Sys-Op) 76704,71
To: John Thompson 76635,2062 (X)

John,

I personally would recommend upgrading ALL the stations to the new shells...
There were some bugs in the 2.15 shells that have been fixed, and the new
shells offer some new SHELL.CFG and command line features that weren't in the
old shells. Also, if ANY of the machines you use are 80286 or 80386, or have
EMS memory you can use the high memory shells and recover about 30k of RAM...
For the EXTENDED memory machines (286/386) with more than 640k of RAM
installed go to the IBM or MicroSoft forums and download the HIMEM.ARC file
For the EMS systems, all you need is the new shell.

* Reply: 54945-

#: 55148 S3/Printing [***] Message 118 of 245
01-Jun-90 06:48:15 Prev= Thread=J486 Parent=J488
Sb: #54945-3.0 Shells
Fm: Jeffrey R. Drumm 76655,3322
To: Al de la Torre 76416,551

Well, if you use the HIMEM shell (XMSNETx.EXE), you can free up most of the
amount of high memory that NETx.COM used when it was loaded high. Reserving
64K of EXTended memory with QEMM doesn't hit on your high RAM at all; you just
lose 64K of emulated EXPanded memory. You might take a 6K hit on low RAM,
though, if you don't have enough HI memory to initialize XMSNETx.EXE. The XMS
shell loads HI OK (I tried it on my Compaq Portable/386), and only uses 6K of
HI memory.

The new shells get you the MAP ROOT feature, the ability to set a preferred
server in SHELL.CFG, and some other goodies. Performance with the new shells
is actually a little slower; 5-10% lower seems to be the norm.


#: 55545 S1/Servers & Workstn [*T*] [***] Message 76 of 250
04-Jun-90 04:23:59 Prev=J411 Thread
Sb: Windows 3.0 Swap File
Fm: Sean Baxter 76044,1173
To: ALL

Hello Windows 3.0 networking fans, hear is another one of those hidden program
facts you don't like to hear. It appears Win3.0 likes to have about a 4 Mb or
more swap file (enhansed mode), preferably a permantent swap file. I called
MS Windows support and they confirmed this fact and strongly recommned that a
local hard drive be used for the swap file for each Win3.0 workstation. Can
you imagine a 4 Mb swap file per user on the file server and all of that added
NIC traffic.

>> Sean <<

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#: 55675 S1/Servers & Workstn [***] Message 77 of 250
04-Jun-90 18:54:19 Prev= Thread= Parent=
Sb: #55545-Windows 3.0 Swap File
Fm: Jeff Hofstetter 70365,110
To: Sean Baxter 76044,1173

Actually, you can disable swapping while in enhanced mode by putting
"paging=no" into your [386Enh] section of SYSTEM.INI. This will (of course)
disable the vitrual memory feature but on our network most folks find that
4meg is adequate for normal use and losing the virtual memory isn't too bad.
..Jeff

#: 55539 S1/Servers & Workstn [*T*]
04-Jun-90 02:07:14 Thread
Sb: #3.01 Shells with 2.12?
Fm: Milton Taylor 75360,1516
To: SYSOP (X)

Can the new 3.01 shells be used with Advanced Netware 2.12?

(I'll be a bit disappointed if we have to go through a rather
expensive 2.12 -> 2.15 upgrade).

-- Milton Taylor

* Replies: 55552-, 55630-J35

#: 55552 S1/Servers & Workstn
04-Jun-90 05:18:14 Thread= Parent=
Sb: #55539-3.01 Shells with 2.12?
Fm: Dave Kearns 76704,62
To: Milton Taylor 75360,1516

That's what upgrades are for, Milton. Should I be disappointed that they don't
work with my 4.61's or my 1.01's?
That said, there really shouldn't be a problem with 2.12....

-dave

* Reply: 55754-

#: 71122 S3/NetWare 2.1x
12-Jun-90 20:49:14
Sb: #71027-Shell 3.01 hangs
Fm: Larry Cadloff (Hartco) 75120,16
To: PANUG 76424,262

Try using SETUP /I/N. There seems to be a problem with cards using 2E0 or
possibly IRQ 2. The /I parameter forces SETUP to NOT attempt a hardware
check. There's a mention of it buried deep in the manualsl; apparently a
check for the 8514/A card can cause this problem with some ARCnet
configurations.

If that doesn't help, tried reconfiguring on workstation using a base address
other than 2E0. Use that machine to run SETUP for everybody's account.
Windows itself has no trouble running with the usual ARCnet configuration.

--LC


#: 18566 S14/On your Soapbox!
20-Jun-90 15:00:26
Sb: TCC ARCNET & Windows 3.0
Fm: Thomas-Conrad Corp. 75410,1407
To: All

Thomas-Conrad Arcnet Products and Microsoft Windows 3.0.

We have found several parameters in Windows 3.0 that require setting to work
properly in the Windows 386 ENHANCED mode in a Novell Network environment.

One important step that should be done is if you are going to be using
Interrupt (IRQ) 2 with an Arcnet card you must run the INSTALL program that is
provided with Novell's new 3.01 shell. This INSTALL program will patch the
Windows program to allow IRQ 2 to be used. Please note that this is provided
by Novell for use with Microsoft's Windows 3.0 and has nothing to do with
compatibility of TCC products.
Another step you must do is to edit the Windows SYSTEM.INI file to
include the Microsoft's EMMexclude=####-#### command to exclude the Base
Memory address that your card will be using. Please see page 549 of the
Windows 3.0 manual for more information on using this command.

Additional information:

If you will be using more than 1 megabyte of RAM for running Windows and will
be wanting to use Extended Memory you may want to use the Microsoft command
HIMEM.SYS (included with Windows) in your systems CONFIG.SYS file (see page
583 of the Windows 3.0 manual). Default values were used with our testing.

You may use Thomas-Conrad Versions 2.20 and 2.12 Arcnet drivers for the
Workstation shell. Please remember that you should use the new Novell 3.01
shell to generate a new IPX. If you will be using Extended memory you will
want to use either the XMSNET3.COM or XMSNET4.COM file depending upon which
DOS you are using. If you are not using any Extended memory you will want to
use either NET3.COM or NET4.COM.


#: 60403 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0
01-Jul-90 19:39:34
Sb: #60370-Win3 & Ethernet
Fm: Dennis Beach (Sys*Op) 76701,146
To: Mark Winzenburg 76674,1430

Windows 386 enhanced mode uses IRQ 2. If you are going to use 386 enhanced
mode, there is a patch to leave Irq 2 open for your network card. In
System.Ini you would change VPICD entry to VPICDA.386. Also copy VPICDA.386
and .EXE from shells download to Windows directory. This has worked okay for
some, but has not worked well for others. You may also need to include a
statement in SYSTEM.INI to exclude the network cards address.


#: 60945 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0
04-Jul-90 22:19:51
Sb: #60905-#Windows3 Booters
Fm: Robert Wessel 75170,32
To: Ed Wear 74017,1147 (X)

Ed,

Put the files from DSWIN1 and DSWIN2 into a directory called
"\NETWARE\SHGEN-1", then copy SHGEN.EXE into "\NETWARE" and run it from that
directory.

Or, copy all the files (from DSWIN1 & 2) on to a floppy with the label
"SHGEN-1".

-Robert

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#: 60947 S14/New Shells/WIN 3.0
04-Jul-90 23:13:05
Sb: #60905-#Windows3 Booters
Fm: Allan Puariea 71020,2431
To: Ed Wear 74017,1147 (X)

Ed:
Download DSWIN0.TXT. So many people asked this same question that a txt
file was added to explain it.

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