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Subject: What is Adobe Type Manager..?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 14 Feb 92 14:45:00 GMT
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I sure this is a basic set of questions but:


A) What is an Adobe Type Manager
- What can you do with it?
-How does it enhance windows?
- Can you use Anti Aliased Fonts (Archimedes users
will know what I'm on about)

B) How much does it cost?

Thanks in advance,
[email protected] (Janet)

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Subject: LaserTwin and Win 3.0??
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Chad Vance)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 92 00:36:24 GMT
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Can someone out there in net.land tell me whether or not LaserTwin
(from Metro software) will work with Windows 3.0?

Also, is this product any good, what it claims to be, etc?

Please respond via e-mail (and post it if you feels its of
general interest!)!

Thanks in advance,
Chad


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Subject: RE: Help!!! Windows is killing my hard disk.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 1 Apr 92 11:32:34 -0500
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, VA.
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> Help. Every time I use windows with 256 colours I get "Application
> Error" and then windows deletes the file and everything in the
> directory. The computer is only a month old and I've have tried over six
> vga cards and software until windows worked but very slowly. And now the
> error is back. Windows has delete over 500 files and I have reinstalled
> windows but I still get the error. I am using a Trident VGA card with
> 1mb, 386DX 33mhz with 4mb and MSdos 5.
> Ross W-W

I used to have the same problem running Windows. In fact,
Windows trashed my hard disk five times before I finally wised up.
The solution? I upgraded to OS/2. . .

- Craig


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Subject: Re: How do you get in touch with EggHead?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Todd J Derr)
Date: 19 Mar 92 02:55:56 GMT
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1-800-EGGHEAD (344-4323)

todd.

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (john gay)
Date: 19 Mar 92 00:30:15 GMT
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In article <1992Mar13.0[email protected]> [email protected] (Dennis Ellis) writes:
> So far, we have rumors that the following programs either won't work or have
>potential problems working under 3.1:
>
> NDW 1.0
> ATM 1.x
> DRDOS 6.x
> a couple of others which I can't remember right now
>
> Does anyone see a pattern emerging here (especially from a product which is
>supposed to be upward compatible)?
>
> It's beginning to sound as if upgrading to Win 3.1 is going to cost quite
>a bundle.

Oh, I thought that you meant the pattern of programs that compete with or enhance
MS operating systems/envirnoment products not working with W 3.1 (like MS would
intentionally do that....you think?!? Naw, couldn't be).


john gay. [email protected]

"The main difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman
is that the used car salesman can probably drive and knows when he's lying."
- Peter da Silva posting on comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc

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Subject: Changing Windows Help Colors
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 07:05:03 GMT
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Subject: Not happy with Excel, Alternatives?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (C.S.Suehs-Likes his 386wXGA! Could use MathCo/486!)
Date: 19 Mar 92 05:41:00 GMT
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I'm not happy with Excel 3.0. Is the next version better? How is the
latest version of lotus and/or Wingz? Is there a Windows Equiv to
Kaleidagraph?

-Steve

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whose opinions probably are not shared by Academic Computing Services.
Dick Clark did not say "I think, therefore I am!" It was Descartes
who walked into a bar and was asked "Have a beer, sire?"
"I think not." >poof< and he was gone.
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Subject: really BIZARRE experience with windows
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From: [email protected] (Mike Anderson)
Date: 19 Mar 1992 09:28:38 GMT
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OK - I swear this is true: I was in Excel, I minimized it and switched
over to Procomm Plus, which reacted extremely sluggishly. Then it
wouldn't respond to any command, and it was all I could do to switch
in an out of the window. The next thing I know, it starts making
these high whiny noises!! I couldn't believe it! It was like a pure
tone, but the frequency kept climbing higher and higher, then drop
back to a low tone and climb back up again. I had the radio on and
at first I couldn't really tell if it was really my computer, but
by God it was! It was the weirdest damned thing I've ever seen on a
computer!! somehow, I eventually got the application turned off, and
the high pitched noise stopped. Does anybody have a clue? I don't!
BTW, I was pushing the limits of my memory - I have eight MB of
RAM, a 386, I was using a 2 MB RAMdrive, 7 MB swap disk, windows
in enhanced mode, math cop., QEMM,... please e-mail to
[email protected] thanks in advance.


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Subject: DeskJet driver on Cica
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bob Taylor)
Date: 19 Mar 92 00:51:13 GMT
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The HP DeskJet Series v2.1 driver for the DeskJet 500C and the DeskJet 500
is now available through cica/ftp in the following directory:

pub/pc/win3/drivers/printer

It is in two files:

djetdsk1.zip
&
djetdsk2.zip

You need to pull down both files and unzip them. The files from
djetdsk1.zip then should be copied to one disk and the file from
djetdsk2.zip should be copied onto another. Installation
instructions are in a readme on disk1.

Bob Taylor
HP Vancouver

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Subject: Windows 3.1 printer drivers?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 18 Mar 92 10:11:58 CST
Organization: University of Missouri Computing Services
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I am planning on upgrading to Windows 3.1 and have one question about printer
support in it. Has Microsoft included a driver for the Epson EPL-7000 printer?
If so, has anyone used it?

I am sorry if this falls into the realm of "non-disclosure." If so, just
ignore me. Guess I will just have to wait for April!

Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Unexpected DOS error: 11????
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 18 Mar 92 21:17:58 GMT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
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Help! I'm getting an "Unexpected DOS Error: 11" when trying to shell to
DOS 5.0 under Windows (3.0) by executing command.com. It has been working
fine until a week ago, and I'm not sure what has changed to cause this error.
Being unable to shell to dos means that I can't run any DOS programs either :(.
Starting command.com with /p /e:512 doesn't do anything.

I've tried starting up with a clean config.sys and autoexec.bat (ie: no extra
stuff) and it has not helped matters. What can cause this error? What does it
mean?

I'll appreciate if someone can clue me in 🙂

Thanks a million,
T.C.Wan
Grad student,
Univ of Miami, FL

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Subject: Re: More bang for the buck ? Ease of Use ? (Mac or PC Clones)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Craig R. Nelson)
Date: 19 Mar 92 10:56:04 GMT
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[MUCH SELFPRAISE DELETED]

>This is a serious mistatement of fact. Actually, Apple is one of the few
>manufacturers who sales _increased_ this last year. By over fifty percent.
>Apple was virtually the only manufacturer of personal computer that experienced
>any growth at all; Apple's growth in sales accounted for _virtually_ _all_ of
>the growth in the PC market in 1991.

>And thanks for your concern; we're surviving quite nicely.

>--
>David "Lefty" Schlesinger ([email protected])
>Network Generalist
>Apple Computer, Inc. <------------------------------------- Uh, yeah..



...and well you should be. Oh great PC gods from Apple, why hast though
forsaken us? Let us not forget the ritual of look and feel. While apple
stays in the quagmire of the courts battling for illbegotten user interface
"right" we in the realm of the real world will never forget it was S.Jobs
that stole said same "look and feel" from Xerox after his much-publicized
visit to Palo Alto Research Center. It's one thing to be competitive, yet
far another to practice common theivery. Apple computers have never been
the same since, and rightly so. Your company would be in the ditch right now
had it not been for this rather-crafty corporate theft. Telling the world
how great apple is ranks up there with promotions for the Joe Kennedy
Honorable-And-Law-Abiding School for the Boys.



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| Craig Nelson , OO Programmer [email protected] |
| CC Software, Inc. Beaverton Oregon 97005 |
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Subject: Games on MS Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Gwo-Jen Hwang)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 10:35:42 GMT
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Could anyone tell me where can I find some games of MS Windows?

Thank you.

Gwo-Jen Hwang


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Subject: WordPerfect for Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (michel voors)
Date: 19 Mar 92 10:33:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise bv, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Keywords: International chars in filename
Summary: WPWIN cannot handle international chars in filename
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Hi there,

With WP for Windows it is possible to create a file with in the filename
international characters. Specifying this filename on the commandline,
so 'wpwin ' will not open the file but instead it gives an
error that the file could not be found, and the foreign characters in
the filename are replaced by a '-' sign. However in the File-Open dialog
box I can open the file ok. The DOS version of WP 5.1 behaves the same.
Does this happen to others as well, or is it just me.

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Subject: Re: comp.windows.ms Reorganization
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 92 16:51:11 Y
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[email protected] (Peter da Silva) writes:

> I would suggest that it be "comp.os.windows" rather than ".msdos.windows".

I aggree. When NT arrives windows will be an OS, so I don't think that we
should have our newsgroup locked into the .msdos.* groups...

Just my 0.2c worth...

...Stefan


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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 92 16:55:46 Y
References:
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[email protected] (Joe Morris) writes:

> [email protected] (Stefan Olson) writes:
>
> >[email protected] (Jim Mann) writes:
>
> >> In article [email protected] (Joe
> >> Morris) writes:
> >> >
> >> > According to Symantec, Norton Desktop for Windows V1.0 will *not* run
> >> > under Windows 3.1; you'll have to wait for Symantec to announce the
>
> >In theory it should run fine with 3.1, otherwise if lots of apps won't
> >work with 3.1 there will be many angry Microsoft customers, unable to use
> >there old apps. Did they give a reason for it not working with 3.1??
>
> I had been promised fixed code RSN by the Symantec tech support people,
> and started getting somewhat irritated when no new disk had arrived two
> months later.

I would too. I use CP PcTools 7.1, which I got an update disk of sent for
free!!

> Since by the time I talked to Symantec's local peple the April release
> date of Windows 3.1 had been pretty much set, I asked about compatibility
> and was given the "it isn't" response. I've got no way to test it to see
> if there is a real incompatibility, or at least not until a copy of Windows
> 3.1 production code appears.

I know someone who is getting a beta, so I'll get him to check it out (he
has NDW 1.0)..

...Stefan
>
> Joe Morris


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Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for Windows, Windows 3.1, and NDW
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 06:55:39 Y
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[email protected] (JOHNSON) writes:

> 2. TPW & Windows 3.1
> Does anyone know if the current Turbo Pascal for Windows will operate
> properly under Windows 3.1? It sounds like it should, but what about the
> new function and method support? Will TPW have access to them without
> upgrading?

It is unlikely, as TPW has been around for a while now, you will need a new
windows.h file. For that I presume Borland will upgrade the product. I
know Borland and Turbo C++ (windows bits) are being upgraded soon after the
3.1 release.
Mail: [email protected] and ask them the question...

...Stefan

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Subject: Re: Help compiler ?! - MS move into the 1990s !
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 07:00:36 Y
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[email protected] (Douglas A. Lane) writes:

> time of Windows - why does Microsoft require use to WASTE our time with
> Rich Text Files and a Help Compiler to create our help files ??!!

I aggree, it is is pain, even on my 386, it takes about 15 min to compile a
fairly small help file (23k). I can't imagine how bad it would be with the
TC++ help file (4meg!!!!)

> - a wordprocessor-like editor for Windows for help text.
> (standard save, read, cut, paste) WYSIWYG mode.
> Save the file any way you like, just write out a great
> .HLP file somehow.

Sound's nice..

> - a feature to create the help file hierarchy, maybe something
> like the TREE with the ability to move and add branches.

Xanitipe (I think that is what it is called) anyway it should be on cica,
and it can do that (only with RTF)...

All your ideas sound good, just a bit far-fetched though. Microsoft don't
even have a Windows-based IDE at the present time...

(Borland do!! 🙂 )

...Stefan


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Subject: Re: Trident Blues
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 07:05:58 Y
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[email protected] (Ryan Tanner) writes:

> [email protected] (Stefan Olson) writes:

> Well, I have a Trident 8900c 1meg card in my machine. You might consider
> getting a mono card and monitor and do dual mode debugging. Works great.
> The hardware should be cheap too. Get some used stuff at a swap meet
> or something.

That's a good idea, we have a herc 286, which we are going to put a VGA
card on, and I could take the card and monitor from that...

Thanks,
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Subject: *** HELP with LINEST function in EXCEL ***
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Olivier PLAUT)
Date: 19 Mar 92 09:53:20 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Lines: 41

Hello there!

I would like to define in EXCEL3.0 a least squares function with a
variable number of points:

Let's say I have 5 points in my data, X's are in column A and
Y's are in column B.

The formula will be:

=LINEST(B1:B5;A1:A5;TRUE;TRUE)

If my number of points changes, I will be obliged to edit the
formula, to modify B5 and A5, and, if I have an embedded chart,
to edit the series to have all the points appearing on the
graph.

What I would like to have is a cell containing the number
of points and the references of the formula to change according to
this number.

If I have this number in cell F1, the formula then could be

=LINEST(B1:B[$F$1];A1:A[$F$1];TRUE;TRUE)

** Can I define a reference using the content of a cell ?

** Is there a possibility to solve my problem this way or
differently ?

Thanks a lot.

Olivier.

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Subject: Re: Windows & VGA IRQ 2
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jess M Holle) writes:
>Actually, I would compare the Mac to C or C++ (with inline assembly) and
>the MSDOS to coding in machine code. Like machine code, DOS has a very
>intimate dealings with the internals of the machine, but a MUCH lower
>productivity for the user.

Well this is total bull!

>
>I can still spin circles around any DOS or Windows user that I know
>(including the guy down the hall with a 486 33MHz) on my machine (an
>OLD SE/30) when it comes to technical report production.

Well you must know some pretty stupid people. I use both machines on
a regular basis and I can see no real advantage to one over the other.
They're both too slow. I find I use my PC more than my MAC for my
report writing, but that's only because I have a PC at home, and
couldn't be bothered with the document conversion.

I'm pretty tired of MAC people just blurting out "My machine is
more efficient than a PC". I say that's all bullshit. Prove it.
A good PC user is just as efficient as a good MAC user, and an idiot
will be totally useless with both.

>
>To be a DOS/Windows user REQUIRES the mastery of huge amounts of low level
>junk. Down the hall from me I have 3 friends with PC's. Two cannot get
>their external modems to work due to Comm port incompatibilities. One
>cannot get his internal modem to work due to some lost Autoexec.bat line
>or something. I have worked with PC's for two years and have never gotten
>over the problems the things ALWAYS seem to have. Using the aforementioned
>documentation, one can modify anything about their Mac that they want, but
>they are not required to learn bitcodes for all the assembly instruction and
>compute offsets by hand, to continue with the C vs. machine code analogy.
>

Can you make an application on Appleshare load any faster. Although
my 10Mbit ethernet card wasn't free, Excel loads a heck of a lot faster
from my PC server than it does on my MAC from its server. (5 Seconds
vs 1 Minute).

>Just my $0.02,
That's all its worth!

Steve


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Subject: Re: DJ500 and the DJ500C drivers
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Tim Hunter
Date: Thursday, 19 Mar 1992 07:00:47 EST
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Just an additional note: I got a copy of the DJ500C driver by simply
calling the vendor who sold me my DJ 500 printer. They asked me to
come by and bring a pair of formatted 5 1/4" floppies with me. I
waited 20 mins while they made a copy of the driver.

Good service, eh? You can bet I recommend them to anybody who asks
me where to buy printers around here. Anyway, this might be a quick
and easy alternative to calling WP or HP.


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Subject: Re: Windows desktop .bmp file. Which format works? (rle 8 etc.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Martin Heller)
Date: 18 Mar 92 07:50:35 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Knapp) writes:
>
>Ok, I've had it. I'm trying to put up some .gifs converted to .bmp for
>my windows background, but just about any choice I make gives a UAE or
>crashes my system. I won't go into my feelings about MS right now...
>Can someone tell me which .bmp format works, and which doesn't, and why?

Use the RGB format only for Windows 3.0 wallpaper. For Windows 3.1 you can
use the RLE formats if you wish.

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Subject: Publisher's Paintbrush TEMP problem
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 19 Mar 92 15:33:34 GMT
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I have a little problem with Publisher's Paintbrush for Windows.
(I have 4MB+4MB permanent swapfile and lots of HD space)
When I use ramdisc and set TEMP to it, Paintbrush can't load any
pictures at all, no matter how small the picture is. I tried several
ramdisc sizes (with switch /e) and it still kept on saying that not
enough memory to create picture. Then I removed the ramdisc and could
immediately load three 200k pictures (well, it was swapping).
I wonder what's wrong, since Corel Draw can use ramdisc TEMP fine.
Is Paintbrush a TEMP hog?

BTW. Have you noticed that you can watch TEMP filesizes with DOS window?
I noticed that Corel Draw is not using much memory with its temp files
(and therefore they fit fine into ramdisc), but with Paintbrush it's quite
easy to create 2MB tempfile and with Word 2.0, at least in my machine,
the tempfile allways remained in 0k (I had two about 150kb text files and
still nothing).

And since I don't have enough money to buy another 4MB of memory I'm
interested of knowing if Stacker can double ramdisc, and how much ramdisc
is needed to use Paintbrush and others succesfully.

Thank you.
--
Jari Kivel{ [email protected]
FINLAND

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Subject: Re: Permanent Swap: Should I or Shouldn't I?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 09:00:24 -0500
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Indiana University
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In article [email protected] (James N. Potts) writes:
>When I use temporary files (which are written to a 1 meg ram drive) the PM says
>that I have 14 megs of memory free (my system has 5 megs). When I created a
>permanent swap file, my free memory dropped to around 8 megs.
>
>Am I missing something? If not, then I'll stay with the temporary files.

Just make a larger swap file. The temporary swap file is
probably mot going to be on your RAM drive, but your .TMP
files will be. They're not exactly the same thing.






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Subject: Re: RFI: Medical Dictionary for Ami Pro? [Possible solution]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (G. Ralph Kuntz)
Date: 19 Mar 92 14:02:03 GMT
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I purchased Reference Software's "Stedman's Medical Dictionary". It
has parts that run stand-alone and as TSRs. It claims to support
Wordstar, Multimate, Wordperfect, PC Write, Freestyle, Microsoft Word,
PFS:Write, PFS:Prowrite, Office Writer, and others. The version I
have does not run in windows. It is configurable for other
editors/word processors. I just use it with MicroEMACS to prepare
files for TeX. I am pretty happy with it. It also includes the Random
House Dictionary of English. You can add new words to your heart's
content and compile them into the base dictionary (I added all of
LaTeX's commands).

If I ever get time, I am going to write a review of this package for
the New England Journal of Medicine (I've received preliminary
approval).

I don't have anything to do with the company; I am just a satisfied
customer.

Cheers, Ralph
--
G. Ralph Kuntz
Medical student, UMDNJ - Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Class of 1994
[email protected](H) 908-463-7170
[Computer scientist for Bell Labs in a former life (before Med. School)].

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Subject: Re: MS Money bombs out
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 14:19:15 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
/>--
/>I recently purchased MS Money for Windows direct from USA. I can't get
/>it to work properly. When I ask for previews or the tutorial it bombs
/>out. Has anyone out there got it to work properly? I have tried
/>everything without success.
/>
/>Thanks for any help. Graham
/>
/>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
/>Graham LAWRENCE, IUML, CMU Geneva Switzerland e-mail [email protected]

Sounds to me that you may be having a problem that occurred with a few
of the earlier beta releases of Windows 3.1. Are you using Win 3.0 or
one of these betas?

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Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: How do you get in touch with EggHead?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 14:21:46 GMT
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In article <1992Mar18.23164[email protected]> [email protected] (David Dumas) writes:
/>Does anyone have the address of phone number for EggHead?
/>
/>Thanks,
/>
/>David Dumas
/>
/>--
/>David Dumas
/>[email protected]

In the US try: 1-800-EGG-HEAD <-- its always worked for me

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Keith Thigpen)
Date: 19 Mar 92 14:30:05 GMT
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[email protected] writes:

>I got a little surprise when I ordered the Windows 3.1 upgrade: it costs
>extra to get True Type with Windows 3.1. I had thought that it was
>included with the package. Just thought those unaware should know! By the
>way, I was told I'd have it in my hands April 6th.

>Jerry Griph
>[email protected]

Actually, TrueType DOES come with Windows 3.1. The extra charge is for the
Lucid font pack, (which contains 44 fonts, I think, but don't hold me to it).
Windows 3.1 (with TrueType integrated) is 49.95. 3.1 (with TrueType integrated)
PLUS the font pack is 99.95.


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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 printer drivers?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Scott Briggs)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 14:06:48 GMT
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[email protected] writes:



>I am planning on upgrading to Windows 3.1 and have one question about printer
>support in it. Has Microsoft included a driver for the Epson EPL-7000 printer?

Yes they have, (Epson EPL-6000, EPL-7000, EPL-7500)

>If so, has anyone used it?

Sorry, I haven't

--Scott

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Keith Curtis)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 09:47:55 EST
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Actually I develop NeXT and PC software on the NeXT.


Why kind of PC software? Surely not one that is the slightest bit non portable. Only stdio, right? No graphics, no Windows, etc, etc.



Which is why the NeXT Brick (available in September) will run on two RISC
processors (probably M88110s) at 200 MIPS. 'Course it won't be cheap if you
compare it to a PC, though it'll be a steal compared to other machines in its
class.

That sounds interesting. However, what is the price, and what are the odds it will really ship in September?



Excuse me, I can see you've never used any NeXT software. Create, TopDraw and
Illustrator ALL blow Corel Draw away, Word for windows is a pain compared to
any of the NeXT word processors and Excel doesn't even compare with Improv.
Oh, and as far as graphics go, remember that Pixar's Renderman comes free with
NeXTStep 3.0 (Remember the graphics from Terminator II? They were done on
Renderman).

I haven't heard of Create or TopDraw. I have used Adobe Illustrator, and I think it works very differently then Corel Draw. (Adobe Illustrator's latest verison recently shipped for Windows) I used WriteNow which comes with the NeXT, and it doesn't have the all the features of Win/Word 2.0. (When was the last time it was updated?) Win/Word has a macro language, a grammar checker, superb layout capabilities, etc., etc. WinWord 2.0 is a piece of art and I know there is nothing on any other platform that








can touch it. (Ami Pro 2.0 is quite good, tho!) Corel Systems was considering porting their program to some verison of Unix because they realized that there is nothing, except on the PC's that has the capabilities of Corel Draw.
I've seen Pixar's Renderman (its on the Mac, and I think its being ported to Windows or is currently shipping for Windows) Yeah, I will agree that in the animation area, NeXT might be ahead.
Excel 3 is great, Excel 4 is better. When was Lotus Improv written? BTW, Improv 2 is under development for Windows...when will Improv 2.0 ship for the NeXT. I was shown a demo of Improv, and found it to be nice and a different paradigm, but it seemed more of a cutsie demo then a robust business tool.



You find me an EISA 486-50 w/ sound, a 17" color monitor, E-net, UNIX, a good
GUI (I suppose X will have to do), a good SW development system (including IB),
Mathematica etc., etc., for $4000 (student price) and I'll buy it.

The prices around here for a NeXT are: (from memory)
68040-25
8 megs
monochrome monitor
200 meg HD
----------
3400.

or

68040-25
16 megs
Color monitor
400 meg
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$6000

Where are you getting your prices?

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Keith Curtis)
Date: 19 Mar 92 14:53:41 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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I got a little surprise when I ordered the Windows 3.1 upgrade: it costs
extra to get True Type with Windows 3.1. I had thought that it was
included with the package. Just thought those unaware should know! By the
way, I was told I'd have it in my hands April 6th.

Jerry Griph
[email protected]

You misread the package, or misheard the salesperson. Windows 3.1 comes with 13 or so truetype fonts, and an extra *44* fonts cost extra. the TrueType engine, and the basic fonts all are included. (you were unaware! 🙂 )

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Subject: Alternate shells in Win 3.1?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Terry Henning)
Date: 19 Mar 92 14:35:46 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
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Hi,

Does anyone know if you can replace the shell in Windows 3.1 with alternate
shells for Windows 3.0, e.g. backmenu?

Thanks,

Terry

[email protected]

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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Windows comp
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 09:55:06 -0500
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Indiana University
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In article <[email protected]| frank.kennedy%[email protected] (Frank Kennedy) writes:
|DAL|And run on the 40+ million AT computers that are in the business community
|DAL|that are not capable of running OS/2. OS/2 may be an excellent operating

|Why not see about plugging an 80386 SX chip in the location where the
|present 80286 is? I know that is an expense, but I believe OS/2 will
|run on a 386SX..and the 386SX supposedly will replace an 80286.


They aren't pin compatible.
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Subject: MS-Windows Telemarketing SW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Scott Onofrio)
Date: 18 Mar 92 16:05:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
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Does anyone know of good telemarketing/prospecting telephone engineer software
for MS-windows. Need information for current project.

1 man piece of software

Please send company and phone number if possible.

E-Mail information inaddition to posting responses if possible.
Thanks in advance,
Scott Onofrio
[email protected]
!hplabs!hpisla!sjo

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bradley Wong)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 14:58:04 GMT
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>
>What? $60 for a util that will convert all of my ATM fonts to the faster
>True Type format? Tell me more, tell me more. Have I missed "Fontmonger"
>in previous messages? Fill me in please.
>
>-Adam

First off, the MS True Type font offer is for $99 not the $50 I
first said (which was from memory). Fontmonger by Ares is available from
Publisher's Toolhouse (1-800-233-3898), among other places,
at a discounted price of $59.
AllType by Atech can also be had for about $49 to $59 at Egghead,
CompUSA, etc. Both packages include Adobe Type 1 to True Type
converters.



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Subject: ANYONE WITH WIN3 AND HP P
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 20:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (John Will)
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TO: [email protected]
AK.Printing from Win3 takes long time. It prints OK, but so SLOOOOWWWW
.(about 15 minutes per page!).

Turn off Print Manager, I suspect that you'll find it's a bit quicker!
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Subject: RE: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 20:53:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
JJ.>> But the only reason to run in enhanced mode is to be able to run
.>> multiple dos sessions concurrently.
.>
.>And here I thought that to open a single DOS window and still keep
.>things running, I had to use enhanced mode! Mind telling me how you
.>do that in standard mode? I surely must be doing something wrong.
.
.Huh?... Aren't you just saying the same thing?

Hardly! I'm saying that if you are in standard mode, a DOS job stops
EVERYTHING, Windows applications, other DOS jobs, etc. It's not only
for multiple DOS sessions that you'd want to run enhanced, if you are
running a couple of Windows applications, say a background
communications session, and would like to do something in a DOS window,
standard mode will not fit the bill. One DOS window stops everything...
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Subject: RE: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 20:55:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
AB.>> But the only reason to run in enhanced mode is to be able to run
.>> multiple dos sessions concurrently.
.
.>And here I thought that to open a single DOS window and still keep
.>things running, I had to use enhanced mode! Mind telling me how you
.>do that in standard mode?
.
.>I surely must be doing something wrong.
.
.Yeah, like not reading the comments to which you refer.

Perhaps if you read a bit more carefully, you wouldn't make stupid
statements like that. I am NOT referring to multiple DOS windows,
if I just want to occasionally use a DOS job, it stops EVERYTHING
else in standard mode, including all the Windows applications
currently running. Is your reading comprehension improving any?
Try reading the whole post before breaking out the flame gun.
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Subject: RE: DOES WINSPEED SPEED U
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 21:03:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
TG.Yes. It works great if you want to run high res (800X600 and Plus) in 256
.color mode and have 1 Mb memory on the card. I run it on a Diamond
.Speedstar Plus and love it.

I hope you didn't pay much for it! Diamond has licensed the WinSpeed
driver code from Panacea, if you download the latest SpeedStar drivers
from their BBS, you get it for free! I'm running them now, and the
price was right!
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Subject: SKIP
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 21:11:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected] (Peter Duke)
PD.I have a set of drivers for the Paradise cards that I got from the local
.Australian distributors, and which I presumed that they got from Paradise/
.Western Digital. The set includes a 640*480*256 colours, a 600*800*16 colours
.and a higher resolution mode that won't work with the Professional
.(1024*768*16?).

A long time ago (several years) I had a Paradise 1024, I called their
tech support and was told that it was incapable of 800x600x256, even
though the memory was available. It seems the VGA chip didn't have
the bandwidth capability to handle the additional colors at that
resolution. I've never seen any application that uses 800x600x256
with the Paradise card, so I suspect they told the truth. There is
a new WD VGA chip that is supposed to be capable of that and more,
but they no longer make boards, only OEM chips. The new chip is
being used in new AST machines, but I suspect that's no help to you.
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Subject: DOES WINSPEED SPEED UP WI
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 20:59:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
SM.I have read several times about a program on the market called
.Winspeed that supposedly replaces your windows drivers and
.significantly boosts windows performance for about $50.

The new T4000 drivers from Tseng labs seem to be almost the same as
the WinSpeed ones in performance. BTW, if you happen to have a Diamond
SpeedStar, you can get WinSpeed for free, seems they licensed it from
Panacea. I downloaded the drivers from the Diamond BBS, they come up
with the Panacea copyright when they start. The new T4000 drivers on
my other machine with a STB PowerGraph seem about the same speed, FWIW.
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Subject: RE: OS/2 VS. WINDOWS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 18 Mar 92 21:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (John Will)
Organization: Satalink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324
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TO: [email protected]
GS.>And here I thought that to open a single DOS window and still keep
.>things running, I had to use enhanced mode! Mind telling me how you
.>do that in standard mode? I surely must be doing something wrong.
.
.You're missing the original context of the post. The original
.poster was talking about Windows under OS/2 2.0. In this setting it makes
.no sense to run DOS boxes under Windows since OS/2 does a MUCH better job
.at running DOS Apps than Windows...

That's certainly true, I just took exception to the statement that "the
only reason for enhanced mode is multiple DOS sessions". In point of
fact, if you want a single DOS session to run concurrently with Windows
applications, you have to run in enhanced mode. I did notice you were
the only respondent that didn't take this opportunity to throw a "flame"
my way, but actually responded in a civil manner. Thanks 🙂
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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 15:19:18 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Keith Curtis) writes:
>
>You misread the package, or misheard the salesperson. Windows 3.1 comes with
>13 or so truetype fonts, and an extra *44* fonts cost extra. the TrueType
>engine, and the basic fonts all are included. (you were unaware! 🙂 )

I talked to a sales-droid at MS yesterday and they told me that TrueType
was extra - they did not say "extra TrueType fonts" cost extra. I told
them I thought TrueType was part of Win 3.1, but they are saying "nope."

Obviously the sales-droids are "unaware" (so, what else is new? 🙂
-Paul
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//
// Paul F. Smith - ADPC - Purdue University
// [email protected] or [email protected]
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Subject: Application Reviews: Desirable Features [renamed]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 19 Mar 92 10:24:31 EDT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Robert Osterlund) writes:
>***
> By the way, software ads almost always tell you that you require X MB of
> RAM and DOS X.X or whatever, and most will say you need a hard disk, but
> very few state disk space requirements. That is a serious omission in this
> age of mega applications (like Word for Windows (~15 MB) and Turbo C++ for
> Windows (~20 MB)).
>
> Bob Osterlund
> [email protected]
> Social Science & Public Policy Computing Center
> University of Chicago

I agree with Bob's comment, which I would like to broaden to reviews
and other considerations. I think that reviews frequently leave out
much efficiency-related information. If we view efficiency as the
resources it takes to complete a task or goal, then
efficiency-related factors should be included in software reviews in
computer publications. Resources include time, money, and ease of
use for users at various levels of computer proficiency. Some
efficiency-related factors might include:
1. Amount of HD space the program requires and the nature of
any minimal configurations (this is essentially Bob's point);
2. Amount of RAM the program requires and the nature of
any minimal configurations (sometimes provided by reviews);
3. System/Mac or DOS/IBM requirements (frequently provided);
4. Money cost for the functions the program provides (reviews
are usually good at listing functions and the list price)
5. Cost in terms of the slowness of its loads, saves, screen
refresh, & execution (sometimes provided by reviews, but not
nearly enough emphasis placed on speed of execution -- how
efficient in terms of cost of the user's time if the application
does lots of neat stuff but it takes forever to execute?)
6. Any effects of low memory on #5, and does the application warn
the user of low memory? (reviews tend to omit this, and I have
been burned a number of times in Excel/Mac waiting for long
periods for Excel to recalculate in a low memory situation;
before manual or automatic recalculations, the user should not
be required to check for low available memory in an
application; warning should be automated and the automation
should be "togglelable.")
7. Ease for users new to the program and users familiar with the
program to implement the program's functions; the former has
been popularized by Apple as "user-friendliness" while the latter,
illustrated by requiring the experienced user to navigate a number
of menus or dialog boxes to implement a function, if too often
ignored in the reviews. Ease of use is relevant not only to
time but also to how much the application distracts the user's
train of thought from what the program is supposedly implementing.
Steve
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| Stephen R. White |
| Department of Political Science/ |
| Criminal Justice WHITESR@APPSTATE |
| Appalachian State University [email protected] |
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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tony Claes)
Date: 19 Mar 92 09:20:54 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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>>As for OS/2 being able to run dos programs better than Windows, this I
>>have to see. I have several dos programs that I can run in the enhanced
>>mode of Windows that won't run under OS/2 1.3 at all. Unless IBM has
>>done things to substantially improve the dos emulation in OS/2 over the
>>half-hearted attempt that they previously made, there is no way that
>>OS/2 will be better at runnind dos programs than windows.

>>--
>>Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
>>Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
>>National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
>>Bethesda MD 20892


Stop talking about things you apparently never saw. Everybody who
saw OS/2 2.0 knows it runs DOS programs better and 'smoother' than
windows 3.X does.

Tony Claes
Imec vzw.

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Subject: Fourier Transform software for .WAV files
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (clifford bettis)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 15:49:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
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I have been having fun using the multimedia version of
windows and was wondering if someone knew of a windows
application that would do a fourier transform of a sound
recorded as a .WAV file? Also, I just ordered Windows 3.1;
does it include the sound recorder application or will I
have to use the one I got with 3.0a?
Cliff Bettis
Internet: [email protected]

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Subject: Re: Okidata OL400 Printer Recommendations...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Alex Waddell)
Date: 19 Mar 92 15:52:47 GMT
References: <9202280555.[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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[email protected] (David McKellar) writes:

>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] ("James F. Van Leeuwen") writes:

>>
>>I'm not familiar with the OL400 in the least. So, does anyone who owns/uses
>>the OL400 have any opinions on it? I'm familiar with the other two printers.
>>

>I have an OL400 and it works *great*. Initially I couldn't print from
>Windows but I called Oki and they FedEx-ed me a Windows printer driver
>(no charge) and since then its been problem-free. I got an extra Meg of
>memory (making my total memory 1.5 Meg) because that much was needed to print
>full page graphics. The toner cartridges are half the price of HPs.

>The printer is a good deal.
>--

I agree totally, I bought my OL400 from Diamond Computers (in the UK)
for 499 pounds excl vat. For the past three months I have had NO problems
whatsoever, although I didn't like their restricted choice of built-in
fonts.

Buy ATM v2.0, I did and the quality of my output has to be seen to be believed,
my supervisor (here are Glasgow University) thought I had a Mac at home!!!

For the money, ease of use, quality of output I would heartily recommend
the Oki OL400.



*********************************************************
* Alex Waddell* Glasgow University*
* Senior Honours '92* Lilybank Gardens*
* Computing Science* Glasgow*
* ST-Mac convert* G12 8QQ*
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Subject: Printer driver for Okidata 180
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dan Montroy)
Date: 19 Mar 92 16:09:44 GMT
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Could someone please tell me what printer driver I should use for the Okidata
180 printer in Epson emulation mode? I have been using the LX-80 driver, but
I'm not sure which one is the right one. Does it make a difference?

Dan Montroy
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: How to catch Windows OUTPUT ?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Denis Beauregard)
Date: 19 Mar 92 16:07:39 GMT
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In article <199[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>How is it possible to trap Windows output as commands (i.e. 'move window
>to x,y' or 'putpixel at x,y,color' ,...) ?
>
>I want to catch the output commands of Windows (in one application in fact)
>to store them and reuse it after.
>
> Marc Stern

I have a little different application in view. While I have not yet
begun to work on it, here are what I think I will do.

Application consists in scanning a geographical map, then using a
Paint program (probably Paintbrush), redraw all the map (borders and
town locations), and save positions of border/towns in a file so as
to redraw the map later. Target is to display it in DOS (which is
more more easier to develop in, until now at least and for me)
to produce special purposes maps (i.e. as a genealogist, town existing
in a given year) and to import them into Windows to include them in a text.

Probably a long route to get results, but I would have to do the
data extractors, nor to create bitmaps.

Here is the solution I have in mind.

While in Paintbrush, turn on SPY (with SDK). It will catch mouse movements
and I can just keep the position when the mouse button is depressed,
and some messages like key depress. DOing this, I would get the
consecutive positions I pointed. By identifying the pageup/pagedown
movements, I can even get more than one screen data at a time.

WOuld I have to redo the movement (the original posting), I presume
I could write a program that could sent the same messages back to
Paintbrush and our gurus will probably help at that point.



--
Denis Beauregard [email protected]
Mes opinions sont personnelles, pas celles de mon employeur.
My opinions are mine, not those of my employer.
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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Marcus Harvey)
Date: 19 Mar 92 16:24:48 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ray Fischer) writes:
>[email protected] writes ...
>>More correctly, MACs are for user's of software, not authors (hypercard
>>grunts excepted, but that's not a real language anyway). MAC are
>>designed for Yuppy morons who don't want to be bothered knowing when
>>to remove a disk from the machine. They would rather wait until the
>>MAC decides they can take it out.
>
>And PC's are for geeks who would rather spend hours fiddling with their
>computer than actually accomplishing something useful.
>
Ha ha!

As usual these PC v. Mac v. Amiga v. Next arguments come down to something
even deeper: 'salt-of-the-earth-good-rock-n-roll-guys' technical types v.
'yuppy-moron-pinko-weirdo-pervert-trash' creative types...

...whatever happened to the Renaissance?

Anyway the answer to the question is, 'Yes, PC's are cheaper than Macs'.

Somehow I don't think it makes a blind bit of difference to Neville Brody
et al.

Marcus Harvey, Polytechnic of Central London IRS
[email protected] - JANET marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN

...Bubble Up!

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Subject: Re: Shareware for Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David H. Friedman)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 15:31:17 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (David H. Friedman)
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In a previous article, [email protected]
(Chris E Donnell) wrote:
>I would
>also appreciate any comments on "MUST HAVE" shareware for windows. I would
>appreciate any comments and especially full file names for shareware. Thanks.
>
I couldn't live without Command Post 7.0, by Wilson WindowWare. It's a
shell replacement for the File Manager and Program manager, something
like the old MS-DOS Executive: it gives you directory listings and a
tree; clicking on a terminal of the tree brings up the corresponding
subdirectory. The most useful (IMHO) feature is that it lets you
program your own menus in a sort of batch language, which includes
statements for running programs, sizing windows, etc. For example,
when you install a new application, you edit the menu file to include
the new app in (e.g.) the WinApps menu; from then on, to run the app
you click on WinApps, then on the app name.

I think the current version is still 7.0S, and the shareware file
is CP-70S.ZIP; the most up-to-date posting is usually on CompuServe
(GO WINAPA, then select no. 15 for Wilson WindowWare). Registration
fee is about $60.

Some of WWW's other products are WinBatch, a batch language for
Windows; WinEdit, a programmer's editor; and WinCheck, a personal
finance minder. I have no connection with WWW - I'm just a satisfied user.

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Subject: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Doug Holberg)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 17:10:48 GMT
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Regarding compatibility of DRDOS 6.0 and Win 3.1:

I called Microsoft today, and they said that Win3.1 is not
compatible with DRDOS 6.0.

I called Digital Research today, and they said that Win3.1 is not
a shipping product so they could not comment on compatibility.
However, they said that they DO INTEND to be compatible therefore,
an upgrade of DRDOS might be required.

The DRI person I spoke with was clearly defensive (in spite of the
fact that I was very pleasant). I think DRDOS is great and intend
to continue with it. Microsoft claims 12,000 beta testers for
Win3.1. NOT ONE OF THEM A DRDOS USER???? Simply amazing!!!!

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Subject: Various Memory Problems
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Mike Quigley)
Date: 19 Mar 92 17:18:37 GMT
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I have a 386-33 with 4 megs of RAM. I have EMM386.EXE (the DOS version) set up
with NOEMS, so I am only using the high memory area, and have about 2-3 megs of
extended memory available, depending if I'm running something like Word for
Windows. Recently I've been getting memory errors (the "not enough available"
type). I can't run ATM 2.0 because it seems to be a real memory hog (with only
about 40-50 fonts!) and only increases the frequency of the "out of memory"
business). I'm also trying to run Telix in a window (I've created a PIF file --
perhaps not a very good one -- so it can do its thing in the background), but I
find I can't do this PLUS another DOS application at the same time. What I want
to do is have the following running all at once:
Word for Windows (1.1)
Windows File Manager
Telix
GDS (DOS Gif Viewing Program)
ATM 2.0
Can this be done? If anyone can do this and has a PIF file for Telix which
makes it all happen, or any other tips which might be of use, please drop me a
line. (Send me your uuencoded PIF file if you want.) I really don't want to go
out and buy another 4 megs of RAM just to find out it doesn't solve the
problem.

Incidentally, why is it that PC Tools' System Information program when run from
DOS shows 640K of conventional memory plus 3.whatever megs of extended memory,
but when I run System Information from within Windows, it shows 640K
conventional, 1024 Extended (which never seems to be used) and 1632K expanded
(which is being used to the max)?


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Subject: Wanted Paintshop Pro for windows...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Seymour Joseph)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 16:54:22 GMT
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I recently downloaded a program from the wuarchive.wustle.edu windows3
directory called PaintShop version 2.02. It is a windows based
graphic conversion, display and clipping utility. I had a few
problems with it so I called the author. He suggests I download the
much newer and better program "Paintshop Pro" which he claims is
widely available on "BBOARDS and compuserve and stuff" I have been
unable to find it in the archive. Is it there? If not, could someone
please get a copy to the pc archives? I would really like to check
out this newer version.

Thanks!
Seymour Joseph

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Subject: Re: S3 cards and Windows and DOS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 12:12:52 -0500
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In article <1992Mar16.085617.[email protected]> [email protected] (Kijin Jung) writes:

>In the March issue of Computer Shopper, a reviewer remarks that
>the S3 based STB Wind/X board does improve Windows drastically;
>however, the performance under DOS decreases by 50% compared to
>unaccelerated SVGA cards. Since I switch between DOS and Windows
>frequently, this reduction in speed may be unacceptable (especially
>on my 386SX).


What apps do you use under DOS? If they are VGA graphics
apps you'll probably see a slowdown. It might not be enough
to matter, of course. If all you run in DOS is text mode,
I woudn't worry. After all, you aren't Lt. Cdr. Data are
you?




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Subject: Re: ATM 2.0 + Helvetica
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Curtis Clark)
Date: 19 Mar 92 09:32:46 PST
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Stephen Medlin) writes:
> I installed a couple of weeks ago my copy of WFW 2.0 and ATM 2.0 (yes,
> I finally got it a while ago). I reinstalled my fonts and started
> noticing very bizarre behaviours. First, WFW would not display all
> the text (particularly the brackets on fields), NDW would not display
> the drives/files in the drive windows, and I would get immediate UAE's
> when I did anything that might require changing the fonts, updating
> the screen, etc.
>
> I then recalled that I had similar problems before the new versions of
> WFW/ATM. I had narrowed the problem then to the HELVETICA
> BOLD/ITALIC/BOLD_ITALIC fonts. I deleted those fonts (leaving
> HELVETICA) and VOILA ..... EVERYTHING works now. Bizarre that 1 (or
> all three since I never could tell which one of the fonts was the
> culprit) would bring my system crashing down--any each font is a
> legitimate font.

ATM sets some substitutions, so that its own fonts will replace some of the
bitmap fonts that come with Windows; its Arial, for example, replaces
Helvetica in the standard installation of the package that comes with
Ami Pro. The problem comes with apps that ask for Helvetica as a screen
font for dialogs, etc. Some apps will ask for a 1 point font, figuring that
Windows will give the smallest Helvetica it has (8 point?). But ATM goes
ahead and substitutes a 1 point Arial. Even if the requested font is of
a decent size, the ATM replacements don't usually look as good *on screen* as
the bitmap fonts (the status line in Corel Draw, for example, looks like
sh*t). I finally gave up and edited the ATM.INI file to do away with the
substitutions.

I'm not convinced that this is your problem, but give it a try.

Curtis Clark
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Subject: Re: Unexpected DOS error: 11????
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Joe Morris)
Date: 19 Mar 92 16:16:31 GMT
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[email protected] writes:

>Help! I'm getting an "Unexpected DOS Error: 11" when trying to shell to
>DOS 5.0 under Windows (3.0) by executing command.com. It has been working
>fine until a week ago, and I'm not sure what has changed to cause this error.
>Being unable to shell to dos means that I can't run any DOS programs either :(.
>Starting command.com with /p /e:512 doesn't do anything.

>I've tried starting up with a clean config.sys and autoexec.bat (ie: no extra
>stuff) and it has not helped matters. What can cause this error? What does it
>mean?

I don't know if this applies to you but I recently discovered that the
code which creates a DOS windows (at least in a Windows 3.0/DOS 5 system)
gets extremely buggy if you've got a network interface active when you
start Windows unless you've told Windows that a network exists. In our
environment the network is NetWare. It doesn't matter if you have a version
of IPX which isn't compatible with the current Windows; if Windows thinks
that no network is installed I've seen a variety of symptoms, ranging from
UAE's and such to a DOS window in which there are no environment variables
set except COMSPEC.

Joe Morris

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Subject: Re: TrueType vs ATM
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Gerald Greenberg)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 07:48:45 EST
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Aurit ) writes:
>Will I still need ATM after upgrading to Win 3.1? Is there an advantage
>to ATM over TrueType?
>Please email me the answer; I dont read this newsgroup.
>Thanks in advance
>Mark Aurit
>[email protected]

Could someone who answers also post to the net...I'd be
interested in finding out, too.
--Gerry
[email protected]

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Subject: VESA and MS Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bert Tyler)
Date: 19 Mar 92 11:19:00 GMT
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DG>Why is it that Windows does not use VESA drivers? Would they be
DG>too inefficient?

VESA drivers are "real-mode" programs. I suppose that Windows *could*
use a VESA driver by switching the processor into and back out of
real mode whenever it needed to access the video, but it would be
*really* inefficient.

As I understand it, the VESA folks are working on a protected-mode
VESA spec. If they manage to get that puppy defined (and get enough
video adapter manufacturers to support it), then Windows support
for that beastie sounds reasonable.


Bert Tyler
[email protected]
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Subject: Re: Netware lite and Windows 3.0
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Alan Walford)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 09:43:40 PST
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[email protected] writes:

>
> USERS OF NOVELL NETWARE LITE AND WINDOWS:
>
> Which driver should I use to install Windows with NEtwork options on a Netwar
> client...?
>
> Please Help
>
> Tej
>

I just installed NetWare Lite yesterday. It is a DOS network that uses
ODI drivers. In Windows setup you pick "No Network Installed". Yeah, seems
weird but Lite is fooling DOS and that fools Windows too. Just install
NetWare Lite as per manuals. Login into net and map your drives and
capture your printers (using the net command) before Windows comes up.
I put this in my autoexec.bat so it happens before Windows comes up.
Then in Windows just access the drives as if they were on your machine.

Since I just got this working yesterday I could be wrong. Someone please
correct me if it is supposed to be done differently.

P.S. Any Novell people out there. Since alot of people will be using
Lite with Windows don't you think a section in the manual would be nice. Even
a couple of sentences on how to use it with Windows. Come On !

Al
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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Carl M. Kadie)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 18:47:24 GMT
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If I eventually am going to print to a Postscript printer, will my
print files be smaller if I stick with Adobe fonts?

- Carl

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Subject: Re: S3 cards and Windows and DOS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Kijin Jung)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 18:51:02 GMT
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In a previous article, [email protected] (Iskandar Taib) says:

>In article <1992Mar16.085617.[email protected]> [email protected] (Kijin Jung) writes:

>>In the March issue of Computer Shopper, a reviewer remarks that
>>the S3 based STB Wind/X board does improve Windows drastically;
>>however, the performance under DOS decreases by 50% compared to
>>unaccelerated SVGA cards. Since I switch between DOS and Windows
>>frequently, this reduction in speed may be unacceptable (especially
>>on my 386SX).

>What apps do you use under DOS? If they are VGA graphics
>apps you'll probably see a slowdown. It might not be enough
>to matter, of course. If all you run in DOS is text mode,
>I woudn't worry. After all, you aren't Lt. Cdr. Data are
>you?
>

Actually, I'm not all that worried about running text DOS programs
with the S3 based cards. I'm more concerned about graphics programs
which require fast animation... Some have reported a 1/4 reduction in
speed as compared to unaccelerated video boards, to the point of being
unusable (thanks to all who've replied via e-mail). Also, I will be
running Cad programs in modes higher than plain VGA...

Any comments or recommendations?


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Subject: Re: PD C++ library for MS Windows and more
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Clifton Jones)
Date: 19 Mar 92 17:48:20 GMT
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I would also be interested in testing this. I have experience in C++ programming
both in the DOS environment and Unix. Please send me some information to my
email address.

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Subject: Re: VESA and MS Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Mario Gonzales)
Date: 19 Mar 92 19:37:53 GMT
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In <561.1033.[email protected]> [email protected] (Bert Tyler) writes:

>DG>Why is it that Windows does not use VESA drivers? Would they be
>DG>too inefficient?

>VESA drivers are "real-mode" programs. I suppose that Windows *could*
>use a VESA driver by switching the processor into and back out of
>real mode whenever it needed to access the video, but it would be
>*really* inefficient.

>As I understand it, the VESA folks are working on a protected-mode
>VESA spec. If they manage to get that puppy defined (and get enough
>video adapter manufacturers to support it), then Windows support
>for that beastie sounds reasonable.

The only problem is that they will need to get past Intel. Intel wants
to set its own standard instead of what VESA want to do. Intel's not
happy with VESA's proposal that would define a bus that would allow three
_3_ peripherals to communicate with the CPU at a time. What the standard
would mean is that your devices such as Monitor, Hard Drive, Mouse, etc
would communicate with the processor at it's speed(cpu). Currently the
ISA bus's will transfer at 8mhz. Many Vendors such as Bell computers
have released a computer with this type of Bus on their 3140GT.

a summary of this topic can be found in PC World April '92 issue on
page 17.

L8tr,

Mario


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Subject: Re: Anyone with WIN3 and HP PAINTJET out there???
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Andreas Hoepfner)
Date: 19 Mar 92 15:27:50 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ari Kohtam{ki) writes:


>Problems with HP PaintJet and Windows3:

>Printing from Win3 takes long time. It prints OK, but so SLOOOOWWWW
>(about 15 minutes per page!).

>Is there a solution to this? Printing from other applications goes well
>(and fast). Only with Win3 there is this "feature". Is it Win3 feature
>or what?? Can it be fixed?

Yes, I've the same 'problems' with win30 and HP Paintjet ! I think
it has something to do with the driver (?!) and hope this will be
better in win3.1 !
Now I've installed Novell with spooling (even don't makes the printer
faster) but gives me more time in the application....

Andreas Hoepfner


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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Shawn)
Date: 19 Mar 92 20:16:00 GMT
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In article , [email protected] writes...
>
>>Actually I develop NeXT and PC software on the NeXT.
>
>What kind of PC software? Surely not one that is the slightest bit non
>portable. Only stdio, right? No graphics, no Windows, etc, etc.
>
Actually, I write math educational software that is ALL in graphics mode. I
wrote a few routines to emulate the BGI (Borland Graphics Interface, yes I use
BC++) routines in PostScript and I simply link them in. When I compile
the final version of a program (on the PC), the regular graphics.lib is linked
in and the program runs great. The only problem I occasionally run into is
when my program needs to use far heap space. Then I need to go through the
code and insert a few "far"'s, etc. That's okay, though, because if I have
memory problems I KNOW it's because of I'm running out of heap (since my other
bugs are already ironed out). The advantages to this are 1) It is easier to
find wild pointers and such (if the pointer tries to grab memory that is not
"mine" UNIX complains) 2) Faster compiles. The only thing that pains me about
it is not being able to use the IB.
>
>>Which is why the NeXT Brick (available in September) will run on two RISC
>>processors (probably M88110s) at 200 MIPS. 'Course it won't be cheap if you
>>compare it to a PC, though it'll be a steal compared to other machines in its
>>class.
>
>That sounds interesting. However, what is the price, and what are the odds it
>will really ship in September?
>
Price will be under $10,000 (can you say $9,999? 🙂 which translates to about
$6500 at my school (out of my reach, unfortunately) but for that kind of
screaming speed and true 32-bit graphics (4 billion colors!) you've got to
expect to pay some money. I'd say the odds are good, NeXT has always been very
reliable with their announcements and the article I saw was an interview with
Jobs, not just some company scuttlebutt.
>
[ Stuff deleted ]
>
>I haven't heard of Create or TopDraw. I have used Adobe Illustrator, and I
>think it works very differently then Corel Draw. (Adobe Illustrator's latest

True, I probably shouldn't have tossed Illustrator in there. You should try
Create, though (I prefer it over TopDraw). I haven't used CorelDraw
extensively but I don't think it does anything Create doesn't and Create is
much easier to use.

>verison recently shipped for Windows) I used WriteNow which comes with the
>NeXT, and it doesn't have the all the features of Win/Word 2.0. (When was the
>last time it was updated?) Win/Word has a macro language, a grammar checker,
>superb layout capabilities, etc., etc. WinWord 2.0 is a piece of art and I
>know there is nothing on any other platform can touch it. (Ami Pro 2.0 is

Actually I was thinking of WordPerfect and FrameMaker (which really isn't a
word processor but certainly does a good job). I have to admit I haven't used
Win/Word 2.0 - the grammar checker sounds nice. I'll retract my statement
about word processors until I have a chance to try it.

[ Comments about CorelDraw port and RenderMan delete ]

>shipping for Windows) Yeah, I will agree that in the animation area, NeXT
>might be ahead. Excel 3 is great, Excel 4 is better. When was Lotus Improv
>written? BTW, Improv 2 is under development for Windows...when will Improv
>2.0 ship for the NeXT. I was shown a demo of Improv, and found it to be nice
>and a different paradigm, but it seemed more of a cutsie demo then a robust
>business tool.

Yes Improv 2 is under development for windows, it has been for quite some time,
now (Windows is not the easiest environment to program in). I heard something
a while back about 2.0 for the NeXT but I don't recall the date - I'd better
not speculate. The Improv demo is cutsie but the application is definitely a
robust and powerful business tool.

>>You find me an EISA 486-50 w/ sound, a 17" color monitor, E-net, UNIX, a good
>>GUI (I suppose X will have to do), a good SW development system (including IB),
>>Mathematica etc., etc., for $4000 (student price) and I'll buy it.

[ Local price info deleted]

>Where are you getting your prices?

From my flawed memory, apparently. The following numbers are accurate (off a
NeXT price list)

25 Mhz. ColorStation
12 Mb. RAM
105 Mb. HD
$4398 w/o printer.
$4895 with 400 DPI laser printer.

These are new prices (I paid quite a bit more for my machine than what they
cost now, but 486's cost more then, too) and I think they might be part of a
special promotion because the price sheet says they're good only through March
31, 1992. These prices are not higher ed. prices, either, though I don't know
if the higher ed. discount (35% at my school) applies to them. If it does,
that would mean the systems would cost $2858.70 and $3181.75, respectively. I
don't have prices on the 33 Mhz. machines, though I could probably get them.

I actually haven't paid close attention to prices since I bought my machine. I
researched them intensively before deciding to go with the NeXT but I avoid
watching prices for a while after buying a machine -- otherwise I end up saying
"I was such a fool, why didn't I wait another six months until prices dropped?"
'Cause they would just have dropped more in the NEXT six months. 🙂

Just, out of curiosity, could someone who has looked into it lately tell me
what they could get the following system for?

50 Mz. 486 EISA
17" Hi-res color monitor (minimumm 1168x832 resolution)
High-performance graphics card (fast 24-bit color).
E-net card and software for TCP/IP, Novell and AppleTalk
SCSI controller
105 Mb. SCSI drive
400 DPI laser printer
Some multi-tasking, multi-processing (optional) OS with a GUI.
Software, including Mathematica, a decent word processor, a developers tooklit,
with IB, etc. and some other nifty stuff (to replace the Dictionary,
Quotes, Digital Librarian, Icon, Chess, RenderMan and all the other SW
that comes with a NeXT).

In august I couldn't find anything that could touch NeXT's prices.

Shawn Willden
[email protected]

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Eric Hunt)
Date: 19 Mar 92 20:22:06 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> I got a little surprise when I ordered the Windows 3.1 upgrade: it costs
> extra to get True Type with Windows 3.1. I had thought that it was
> included with the package. Just thought those unaware should know! By the
> way, I was told I'd have it in my hands April 6th.

Wrong!! The 'extra' you are talking about is a set of 44 EXTRA TrueType
fonts for Windows 3.1. TrueType and 13 TrueType fonts will be an integral
part of the Windows 3.1 package!!
--
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Birmingham-Southern College, Birmingham, AL
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Subject: Re: RE: DOES WINSPEED SPEED U
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Roger De Abreu)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 20:42:28 GMT
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In article <537.1033[email protected]>, [email protected] (John Will) writes:
>
> TO: [email protected]
> TG.Yes. It works great if you want to run high res (800X600 and Plus) in 256
> .color mode and have 1 Mb memory on the card. I run it on a Diamond
> .Speedstar Plus and love it.
>
> I hope you didn't pay much for it! Diamond has licensed the WinSpeed
> driver code from Panacea, if you download the latest SpeedStar drivers
> from their BBS, you get it for free! I'm running them now, and the
> price was right!
> ---
> . EZ 1.36 #41 . My other computer is a Z80 with CP/M 2.2
>
>
>

Could you pass on the BBS phone # for Diamond. Mine came with my Gateway 2000...
what do you have to have to access the BBS..a registration # ? what ??

Thanx big time in advance....rogman



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: 3.1 available now?
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Tony J Yeates)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 18:29:11 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Distribution: comp.windows.ms
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Is windows 3.1 available now? How much does it cost? Is it worth it?

(I have windows3 but have not received any upgrade info. from MS).


Any sign of a cheap, effective 32-bit OS yet?


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: PostScript print w/PageMaker 4.0 HELP
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jim Conroy)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:25:24 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Mr News)
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I am having some problems with PageMaker 4.0 printing to an Apple
LaserWriter. When printing pages from a newsletter with text or
text/graphics printing usually works, if the page contains a large
graphic or scanned images giving pages of >than 2.5M problems start.
The problems can be anything from errors writing to the output device
or simply an end of the printjob with no output.

The date on the PSCRIPT.DRV is 10/31/90 I have also found the 3.4a
driver dated 11/21/90 and have seen another driver dated 8/14/91.
Anyone have any ideas if there is one that may be better for an
AppleTalk LaserWriter in PostScript?

If anyone can over some guidance I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Jim

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected]
Date: 19 Mar 92 20:52:27 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected]
Sender: [email protected]
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In an article [email protected] writes:
>You are correct that talking about FASTDISK is not that relavent, because
>what we are talking about is not the FASTDISK program but the new Windows
>3.1 virtual device driver that bypasses the bios to write directly to the
>hard drive just like OS/2 2.0 does. As such, there should be little, if
>not any, benifit of OS/2 2.0 over Windows 3.1 in this area.

You must also remember that OS/2 uses a much better underlying file system,
HPFS. There is no question that HPFS will outperform any FAT based file
system, after all MS had a BIG part in the development of HPFS. Now if
Windows+DOS went to HPFS then I'd agree that OS/2 wouldn't offer any
benefits.

>As for OS/2 being able to run dos programs better than Windows, this I
>have to see. I have several dos programs that I can run in the enhanced
>mode of Windows that won't run under OS/2 1.3 at all. Unless IBM has
>done things to substantially improve the dos emulation in OS/2 over the
>half-hearted attempt that they previously made, there is no way that
>OS/2 will be better at runnind dos programs than windows.

I was referring to a beta copy of OS/2 2.0 that I have. I agree
with you, in that v1.3 DOS support was extremely poor! The DOS support
under v2.0 is MUCH better and, I believe, much more powerful than Windows.
For example, you can disable graphics mode for DOS text based applications
and get up to around 710k of free DOS memory. Even with graphics enabled I
get around 620k of DOS memory. It also runs multiple copies of DOS and can
run multiple VERSIONS of DOS, which means you can have seperate device
drivers loaded in each DOS session. You can also boot a seperate copy of
DOS from a floppy if you wish, it's like booting DOS from within OS/2. Also
the DOS emulation can now be run in either full screen or WINDOWED and the
performance hit you take in running DOS "windowed", at least for text only
applications, is insignificant, especially compared to Windows v3.0. One
last thing and then I'll quit rambling on, OS/2 2.0 can multitask all DOS
sessions, including those that have graphics output.


Sorry if you're not really interested in OS/2, I tend to be salesman-like
when it comes to OS/2 -vs- Windows!

--
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Subject: Help launching PC-File with WP running
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (SOMERVILLE)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:02:06 GMT
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I am posting this on behalf of a friend who has a problem.
He has no trouble running PC-File under Windows using the
PIF provided by the manufacturer -- except when WordPerfect
for Windows is also running.
In this case, the system hangs miserably after switching to
a blank, text-mode (there is a blinking cursor) screen.

What I know is:
PS2 model 80 w/ 16 MB
Some >300 MB HD
The PIF file has a -1 for conventional
memory requested and needed, runs full screen,
and monitors no ports.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Please e-mail to me:
[email protected]

as I do not read comp.windows.ms
Thanks very much!

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Subject: Re: S3 cards and Windows and DOS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Paul S Secinaro)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:43:59 GMT
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In article <1992Mar19.185102.[email protected]> [email protected] (Kijin Jung) writes:
>
>Actually, I'm not all that worried about running text DOS programs
>with the S3 based cards. I'm more concerned about graphics programs
>which require fast animation... Some have reported a 1/4 reduction in
>speed as compared to unaccelerated video boards, to the point of being
>unusable (thanks to all who've replied via e-mail). Also, I will be
>running Cad programs in modes higher than plain VGA...
>
>Any comments or recommendations?
>

Would it be possible to use the pass-through connector and connect a
fast VGA card like a Speedstar in parallel with the S3? That way, you
could use the S3 for Windows, or anything else that supports it (and
your CAD programs might, eventually), and then have the conventional
VGA for games and such. I don't know much about how the whole
pass-through business works, so I can't say if it would work or not.

Actually, if you're going to take this approach, you might as well get
something _really_ fast, like an ATI Ultra (the model w/o VGA on
board).

Paul

--
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[email protected] | Dept. of Computer and Electrical Engineering
[email protected] | University of New Hampshire

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Help using W4Wv2.0 & HP IIP
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Marc D. Cozzi)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:19:43 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (USENET News System)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
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Summary: Can't print symbols larger than 13
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I'm trying to use an HP IIP laser printer with Windows 3.0
and Word for Windows 2.0. The problem I'm having is when I
try and print symbols larger than size 13 they don't show
up on the printer. Sizes 1-13 show up fine on the printer
and screen. Sizes 14,16,18,20,24 show up on the screen ok
but not on the printer ("BLANK")?
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
Thanks for any replies.
Marc
[email protected]
[email protected]

Thanks for any comments or suggestions.
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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Windows comparison
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jerry Shekhel)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:52:11 GMT
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[email protected] (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>/>
>/>I have vague recollections of what it is
>/>that OS/2 does better than Windows, but
>/>I can't say that I know of anything Windows
>/>does better than OS/2 :-(, except penetrate
>/>the market :->.
>
>And run on the 40+ million AT computers that are in the business community
>that are not capable of running OS/2. OS/2 may be an excellent operating
>system. However, if the situation in other institutions is similar to those
>here at NIH, then OS/2 will not become a factor for quite a long time. Of
>the 23 computers in our lab, only two have the hardware to run OS/2, 18 are
>currently running Windows. Of these only 3 are easily upgradeable to OS/2
>in that they have 386 processors. To switch over to running OS/2 would
>cost our lab more than $40,000. Multiply this by 500 and you will get the
>cost for switching over the NIH campus.
>

OS/2 1.3, available for the last 2 years, runs on Windows-capable AT's without
further upgrades, is better than DOS+Windows in *every* way (except software
availability, of course), and costs less.

>
>Fellow OS/2 junkies speak up! Is OS/2 that much better than Windows that
>I should ask congress to raise "YOUR" taxes in order for me to be able
>to run it? Or perhaps should I take the money out of the cancer research
>budget?
>

OS/2 is so much better than DOS/Windows that it would be worth the upgrade
costs if there were any. It just so happens that there aren't.

>
>Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
>
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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Mark Sandrock)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 22:05:46 GMT
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[email protected] (Jess M Holle) writes:

>To be a DOS/Windows user REQUIRES the mastery of huge amounts of low level
>junk. Down the hall from me I have 3 friends with PC's. Two cannot get
>their external modems to work due to Comm port incompatibilities. One
>cannot get his internal modem to work due to some lost Autoexec.bat line
>or something. I have worked with PC's for two years and have never gotten
>over the problems the things ALWAYS seem to have. Using the aforementioned
>documentation, one can modify anything about their Mac that they want, but
>they are not required to learn bitcodes for all the assembly instruction and
>compute offsets by hand, to continue with the C vs. machine code analogy.

This is so true that it surely falls into the category of "patently apparent".
I'd like to see someone try to estimate the huge loss of productivity in this
country due to the widespread use of the PC/DOS standard. It would have to be
staggering in my opinion. I can tell stories too, but there's not much point.
PC's are fine for some people, but I think they have been foisted upon many
unwitting non-technical people, who had no idea what they were getting into.
Many, if not most of whom would have been better advised to get a Mac! The
whole thing reminds me of the fable about the "Emperor's clothes" if you get
my meaning. Take away the nameplates, do a "blind" user-preference test, and
see how things come out then. It wouldn't even be a contest. Cost? Go figure
the cost of the lost productivity and then tell me that PC's are still cheaper.

Another $0.02 worth,

Mark Sandrock
--
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505 S. Matthews Ave., Urbana, IL 61801at any rate, just cleaning the channels
Voice: 217-244-0561through which energy flows.'
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Subject: W4W2.0 -vs- dull Crayola on Kleenex--> go the Crayola
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jim Woodward)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1992 20:47:23 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected]
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For anyone considering "upgrading" from WFW1.1 to 2.0, may I
humbly suggest that you use your money for something a bit
more useful? Wedge it under the short leg of a wobbly table
for example.

I have never cussed so loud, smoked so much, lost as much hair
or experienced anything more frustrating than trying to get this
miserable SOB to work. Before noon today, MS WORD for Windows
2.0 had caused no less than four "general default errors in the
WINWORD.EXE module... Whatever that means. It then gives a nice
little dialog box in which I can choose to ignore the problem or
close the application. When I push "Ignore", the system crashes to
the ground. The "Close" option simply closes WFW and loses all the
work I had since the last auto save. (I've got that set at 5
minutes now).

In addition, I twice lost *all* of my headers. Thirty sections of
unique headers just vanished (twice) for no apparent reason. Luckily
I had saved the file earlier under a different name but it still
involved several hours of work to fix. By 1 pm I was in the minus
category for completed work.

In the morning, I have decided to walk over to the file cabinet
and pick up the Good ole reliable WFW1.1 diskettes. I'll wait for
Microsoft to get its pitiful act together before I try upgrading
again.


SSHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSHHHH!!!!

Jim Woodward
Token Amerikan

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
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Date: 19 Mar 92 14:15:02 GMT
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In article <1992Mar[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
>>[ I wrote ]
>>
>>Which goes back to my theory that hardware types are more attracted to PCs,
>>and software types more attracted to Macs. QED.
>
> More correctly, MACs are for user's of software, not authors (hypercard
> grunts excepted, but that's not a real language anyway).

Oh, come on. 1) The Mac offers a couple of excellent development environments.
2) There is nothing "unreal" about HyperTalk. The beauty of HyperTalk is
you don't HAVE to be a programmer to use it. "Real" programmers may prefer to
use other tools, but that doesn't make HyperTalk less useful.

Sure, it isn't easy to write software for the Mac, since there's a lot to think
about and implement.

> MAC are
> designed for Yuppy morons who don't want to be bothered knowing when
> to remove a disk from the machine. They would rather wait until the
> MAC decides they can take it out.

Yuppy morons? Sheesh.

The disk ejection is a feature. It ensures that you won't disengage the
read/write heads while the disk is being read or written. It ensures that you
won't pull the disk out when there are open files (actually you can do this,
and it will ask for the disk on the next access).

In other machines, you can't take the disk out at these times without risking
damage to your data. Why is making that operation automatic considered bad?

>>>>[ I wrote ]
>>>>Hardware without software is just so much expensive silicon space heater.
>>
>>Have you priced any machines lately? Go down to CompUSA and check out
>>the low-cost Macs.
>
> As a matter of fact...
> Yes, you can indeed spend the same (or slightly less on a MAC) but
> as you say there's more than price to consider. Compare what you get
> (68000 vs. 386 or SX and monochrome vs. color) and you'll see that the
> MAC price/performance is paled.

I don't see that. That's because (if you'll look at my space heater comment),
I consider a computer to be more than just a pile of hardware. The Mac OS
is much of the value of the machine. If you just look at the hardware, you
are missing much of the value of the Mac.

And software isn't just the number of applications packages you (can) buy.
The system software plays a key role. With the Mac OS, applications work
together seamlessly, creating more value than merely the sum of the
individual applications. The Mac OS also allows the applications to make
full use of the hardware. The same cannot be said of comparible PC
environments.

> I have truly compared both machines in real world use, have you?

Yes. I've done one better. I've written retail applications for both
platforms. Have you?

My money rests in the Mac camp. I wonder why.
>
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Subject: Re: W4W2.0 -vs- dull Crayola on Kleenex--> go the Crayola
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 23:37:23 GMT
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In a previous article, [email protected] (Jim Woodward) says:

>the ground. The "Close" option simply closes WFW and loses all the
>work I had since the last auto save. (I've got that set at 5
>minutes now).

Perhaps you should turn the auto save feature off. I've heard that
it, in itself, causes a _lot_ of problems (although I've never
encountered them, since I don't turn it on in the first place...)


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Subject: Re: 3.1 available now?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In article [email protected] (Tony J Yeates) writes:
>Is windows 3.1 available now? How much does it cost? Is it worth it?
>
>(I have windows3 but have not received any upgrade info. from MS).
>
>
>Any sign of a cheap, effective 32-bit OS yet?
>


The official word from Egghead is April 6, 1992
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Subject: Compose key application for Windows
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From: [email protected] (Jerry M. Cummings)
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Available @ cica.cica.indiana.edu

in pub/pc/win3/uploads/cmps1_32.zip and will eventually be
in pub/pc/win3/fonts

*****************************************************************************
* *
* Compose for Windows, V1.32 *
* *
* 19-Mar-1992 *
* *
*****************************************************************************

Copyright (c) 1991-1992 by Digital Equipment Corporation.
All Rights Reserved.

Compose is a Windows application with four major uses:

1. Allows easy mnemonic access to characters not found on your
keyboard such as "1 2" for the = character, "c /" for the "
character, "a^" for the b character.

2. Allows easy dialog box access to the individual characters of
a font. This can be quite helpful for symbol and dingbat fonts.
A listbox with all of the characters of a font is displayed;
double click on the desired character and it will be sent
to the current application. No more guessing or searching
around for symbol and dingbat font reference cards.

3. Allows easy access to the current date and time. A quick
mnemonic sequence of keys send the characters of the current
date and/or time to the current application.

4. Previewing of the many scalable typefaces (commercial and
public domain) that are available for Windows. You can preview
a font from a window or you can preview all the characters on
paper by printing the entire font in the point size and style
that you desire. Technical information about the font can also
be printed. There is also an option to print sample strings of
all fonts.


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Digital Equipment Corporation
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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In article <1992Mar18.212302.26[email protected]> [email protected] (Bradley Wong) writes:
> I believe that you will find it costs extra to get the True Type Fonts
> "deal" that Microsoft is offering along with the $49 upgrade, not the
> True Type functionality that is now a part of the O.S. itself. In the
> MS upgrade brochure, you can buy something like $200 worth of True Type
> fonts for $50 at the same time that you upgrade. Me, I'll spend $60
> for Fontmonger and turn $1000 of Adobe type into True Type fonts 8-).
>
Does Fontmonger work only with Adobe type fonts? or does it
work on others, e.g. bitmap, as well?
--Gerry
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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In article [email protected] (Mark Sandrock) writes:
>[email protected] (Jess M Holle) writes:
>
>> [Story about new users unable to use DOS machines deleted...]
>
>This is so true that it surely falls into the category of "patently apparent".
>I'd like to see someone try to estimate the huge loss of productivity in this
>country due to the widespread use of the PC/DOS standard. It would have to be
>staggering in my opinion.

I imagine a lot of time is wasted getting DOS machines to work. In
fact, I know this is the case. I also know that a large amount of
time is spent here getting the Macs here to work. No, the Mac,
despite what Apple would have use believe, is not "intuitive" or
perfect. From what I can tell, the only real reason people think it's
any easier to use than DOS or UNIX is because that's what people and
Apple tell them (isn't religion great?). It's very interesting how
Mac often users blame themselves when they get the system bomb ("I
must have done something wrong"), while those here who use DOS (which
is the minority platform) blame the computer. There's a lot more at
work here than one platform being "superior" or "better" than another.
Tell someone something's easy to use, and they'll try much harder than
if you say it's difficult, in which case they'll probably give up at
the first roadblock.

>Take away the nameplates, do a "blind" user-preference test, and
>see how things come out then. It wouldn't even be a contest. Cost? Go figure
>the cost of the lost productivity and then tell me that PC's are still cheaper.

I think you'd actually find that for those who aren't pre-biased (and thus
have never seen a computer before), the differences would be slight. Compared
to the large gap between the general population and computers, the DOS vs. Mac
vs. UNIX differences are slight.

Trying to turn this into a constructive flame war, I'd be interested
in what *fundamental* changes people think should/could be made to
computers to make them more accessible to the general population, much
as toasters and TVs are.

Off the top of my head:
o Completely flatten the memory hierarchy. Many new users don't get the
difference between hard disk memory and RAM, much less virtual memory,
caches, and such. It seems very primitive to have to "load" something
from one "memory" to another (within the same computer!), then "save"
it when you're done (because some memories are forgetful, while others
are permanent). It ends up it's not a major problem, but that's because
we've all been taught to "save your work" when done. Unnecessary detail
is exposed to the user.

o Eliminate the application/file "metaphor". The problem with both
the Mac and Windows is that they're application-centric, not
document-centric. The focus is on the tool, not the product. New Wave
and OLE go a bit toward fixing this, but there's a long way to go.

o *Much* better fault tolerance. System bombs, UAEs, unreadable disks--
all result in much more damage than they should. If a file has a bad
sector in it (a recent bout with Macromind Director comes to mind :-)), you
should only lose what wasn't readable, not everything. Some apps are pretty
good at such recovery. "This disk is not a Macintosh disk" is an
unacceptible error ("and the box said it was a Mac disk" the user
says...), especially since in this case the damage is usually slight.

o Eliminate file locality. How much time is wasted copying things to
and from floppies, servers, archives over modem, LapLink or whatever.
System 7's Tops-inspired file sharing breaks down some barriers
(physical machine), and MS's object-oriented file system might
eliminate others (directories, etc.) Xerox's ubiquitous computing
metaphor seems promising--but there are a lot of networking and
security issues to be addressed. On the bright side, we've almost
eliminated all physical bank boundaries, since ATMs are ubiquitous and
a credit card lets you basically carry a bank in your pocket.

Aaron Wallace





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Subject: Windows 3.1
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Date: Thursday, 19 Mar 1992 19:48:39 EST
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OK, amid great fanfare and multicolored brochures Microsoft has
finally offered the *NEW* Windows 3.1. However, no where in
this booklet does MS say how much hard disk space Win 3.1 is
going to take. Anyone care to give me an accurate guess?

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Subject: Win 3.1 IS shipping!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Aaron Bregel)
Date: 20 Mar 92 01:30:43 GMT
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Last night (3/4/92), the news here in Seattle had a photo op for Win 3.1

They showed a palete full of copies of Win 3.1 being loaded into a Fedral
Express plane at the Sea-Tac International Airport.

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Subject: Tseng and color palettes
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jonathan Rodda)
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I have an Orchid Prodesigner I with a Tseng 3000 chipset and 512k ram.
When I run windows in 800x600x16 colors, the colors are a dismal pink
and light blue. Is there any way of selecting another color palette??
Does anyone have a good 800x600x16 driver. All my other drivers work
fine including 800x600x256!

Please Please anyone with a good driver for Teseng 3000 in 800x600x16
let me know where I can get a copy or could you mail me directly.

Many thanx,

Jonathan

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Blackman)
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Aaron Wallace) writes:
>In article [email protected] (Mark Sandrock) writes:
>>[email protected] (Jess M Holle) writes:
>>
>>> [Story about new users unable to use DOS machines deleted...]
>>
>>This is so true that it surely falls into the category of "patently apparent".
>>I'd like to see someone try to estimate the huge loss of productivity in this
>>country due to the widespread use of the PC/DOS standard. It would have to be
>>staggering in my opinion.
>
>I imagine a lot of time is wasted getting DOS machines to work. In
>fact, I know this is the case. I also know that a large amount of
>time is spent here getting the Macs here to work. No, the Mac,
>despite what Apple would have use believe, is not "intuitive" or
>perfect.

Oh,really, then why can a person who recently thought that the fountain pen
was the most technically advanced piece of hardware suddenly set up and use
a Macinstosh just like an old pro?

> From what I can tell, the only real reason people think it's
>any easier to use than DOS or UNIX is because that's what people and
>Apple tell them (isn't religion great?). It's very interesting how
>Mac often users blame themselves when they get the system bomb ("I
>must have done something wrong"), while those here who use DOS (which
>is the minority platform) blame the computer. There's a lot more at
>work here than one platform being "superior" or "better" than another.
>Tell someone something's easy to use, and they'll try much harder than
>if you say it's difficult, in which case they'll probably give up at
>the first roadblock.
>
>>Take away the nameplates, do a "blind" user-preference test, and
>>see how things come out then. It wouldn't even be a contest. Cost? Go figure
>>the cost of the lost productivity and then tell me that PC's are still cheaper.

Exactly right.

>I think you'd actually find that for those who aren't pre-biased (and thus
>have never seen a computer before), the differences would be slight. Compared
>to the large gap between the general population and computers, the DOS vs. Mac
>vs. UNIX differences are slight.
>
>Trying to turn this into a constructive flame war, I'd be interested
>in what *fundamental* changes people think should/could be made to
>computers to make them more accessible to the general population, much
>as toasters and TVs are.
>
>Aaron Wallace
>
>

After following this thread for several weeks I thought ought to jump in.
BTW, the Person I referred to is my mother's boss.

Tom
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Subject: Windows 3.1 and Fastdisk
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ujjwal Singh)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 02:29:34 GMT
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Hello,
I just recently received Focus on Windows from Microsoft
discussing Windows 3.1. In the magazine, there is a mention
of FastDisk which works with Western Digital-compatible controllers.

My question is, what exactly is Western Digital-compatible imply.
I have an ibm ps/2 55 SX and I was wondering if my hard disk qualifies
in the above.

Thanx.
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Subject: Windows 3.0 drivers in Windows 3.1 ?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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When I go from Windows 3.0 to 3.1, do I have to upgrade all my
video, printer, and FAX device drivers ?


Brian Lo

[email protected]

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Subject: Re: 3.1 available now?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Tanida)
Date: 19 Mar 92 23:40:24 GMT
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In article , yeates@rtsg (Tony J Yeates) writes:
>Is windows 3.1 available now? How much does it cost? Is it worth it?

The Windows 3.1 upgrade is not available yet. It will be in stores
April 6. MS is already shipping copies to distributers, who will send
the copies to a computer store near you, but they aren't supposed to
be sold until 4/6. MS has had over a million copies ordered so far.

The price for the upgrade will be $49.95, for a limited time
(several months). For the stability of the OS, speed improvments,
and the truly usable DOS boxes alone (e.g. I can format a disk in the
background, and keep working, although my system slows down quite a
bit), it's worth it (at least to me). Of course, I
got my copy for free (no, not illegally- I'm a beta tester and
MS just today stated that we're allowed to discuss features in the
final release (and the FR only- so don't ask me about the betas before
the final release)). 🙂

To answer some other questions that have come up:

Yes, it works with Norton Desktop for Windows 1.0 (though you'll
probably want to get NDW 2.0 anyway just for the speed and feature
improvements there, not for compatibility reasons).

Yes, SMARTDRV 4.0 works with Stacker 2.0.

No, compatibility with DR-DOS 6.0 is not assured.

I'm not an ATM font user so I can't tell you about compatibility with
ATM, but TrueType is included and works quite nicely for me, even on
PostScript printers.

UAEs are no more. That doesn't mean apps won't crash. For example,
my copy of SoundTool (2.4?) won't even start- it General Protection faults
immediately. That's a bug in SoundTool, not Windows. GP faults
essentially replace UAEs, but they are trapped better.

DOS boxes allow you to set font sizes, and the colors have been
improved. In addition, the mouse is usable with the DOS box (for
DOS apps that support it), and you can still 'mark' and 'copy' from
the DOS boxes (though you need to call up a menu option now).

The "local reboot" feature allows you to kill an app that is misbehaving.
In fact, I had to kill WFW 2.0 once- I used a DOS window to erase
a *.doc file that was currently opened by WFW 2.0, and when I went
back to WFW, it griped at
me with a dialog box that had an OK button. Every time I pressed
the OK button, the dialog box came back (ad infinitum). So I killed
it with CNTL-ALT-DEL and continued working for a while. The drawback
to local reboot is that it doesn't free the system resources
(the USER and GDI handles) that were grabbed by the app that was
terminated, but at least it allows you to keep running.

And for those with sound boards (including basic SoundBlasters),
get ready to start trading .WAV and .MID files via cica. 🙂

You could say Windows 3.1 is probably what 3.0 should have been
(like those who say DOS 5.0 is what 4.0 should have been).

-Tom
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: 1024 x 768 Modes -- Larger fonts?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Date: 19 Mar 92 21:48:13 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (John P. Mechalas) writes:

>I just got my video drivers up and running (thanx to all of you who helped my
>out), and am now viewing windows in 1024 x 768 x 16. I do have a question, or
>rather, a preference: the fonts in this mode are exceptionally small, which
>is fine for standard Windows Applications. But when I run DOS applications in
>a Windows, such as Procomm, the font chosen makes makes everything almost
>illegible. Is there a way to enlarge the point size or even change the font
>that Windows chooses for DOS applications that are being run in a window? I
>suppose I could just switch to running things full-screen, but that's not
>really what I want to do.

Well, my Trident installation fixed me 8514OEM-font as system font.
That's a fairly large one, and IMHO is quite a nice compromise between
teeny-tiny DOS Window text and neat little scribblings in Windows
applications 😉
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Subject: Request for PSD34B.zip/arc printer driver for 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jamie Cashin)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1992 12:56:14 GMT
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Keywords: printer driver
Summary: looking for driver for Win 3.0
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Hi netters. I am trying to find the windows 3.0 postscript printer driver
psd34b in zip or arc format that is referred to in the January/February
issue of EC&I (Electronic Composition and Imaging). I found psd34a.zip on
wuarchive. Anyone know of a later version?

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Subject: Re: QEMM-386 vs EMM386?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Paul Mahler)
Date: 19 Mar 92 06:50:14 GMT
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[email protected] (D442-D. F. Haertig (Dave) x3040) writes:

>How much better is QEMM-386 than the DOS 5.0 program EMM386? How much
>additional memory are QEMM users getting over EMM386? How about
>stability (is QEMM-386 a "finicky" program)? Compatability with
>Windows 3.0, Stacker 2.0, Central Point Backup 7.1?

>Thanks,
>Dave Haertig
>[email protected]

QEMM allocates extended and expanded memory from a common pool. Expanded
memory is allocated as needed, or requested, by calling
programs.

I have found QEMM to be more stable than EMM on a few
different machines.

QEMM works amazingly well, even in some spots
EMM wouldn't work at all.

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Subject: Lockscreen program
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Sally Moore)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:47:58 GMT
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Is there a lockscreen program which works with Windows 3.0?
Something which will require a username and password.
(I know, I know...rebooting the machine will render it
inactive...I'm merely trying to keep snoopy eyes out
at a fairly trustworthy level.) Public domain software
would be nice. Thanks.

Sally
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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <1035@dosbears>
From: [email protected] (Mike Lipsie)
Date: 19 Mar 92 19:47:12 GMT
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In article <1992Mar13.0[email protected]> [email protected] (Dennis Ellis) writes:
>
> So far, we have rumors that the following programs either won't work or have
>potential problems working under 3.1:
>
> NDW 1.0
> ATM 1.x
> DRDOS 6.x
> a couple of others which I can't remember right now
>
> Does anyone see a pattern emerging here (especially from a product which is
>supposed to be upward compatible)?

Yes, I see a pattern.

These are all rumors.

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Subject: Re: Toolbook special interest groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Michel Gascon)
Date: 20 Mar 92 04:55:53 GMT
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I also want to read about TOOLBOOK right from where I stand now.

TOOLBOOK TOOLBOOK TOOLBOOK

and where can I find SCUSI discusssion.

SCUSI SCUSI SCUSI

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Subject: Re: 3.1 available now?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John H. Kim)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 05:08:47 GMT
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[email protected] writes:

>In article [email protected] (Tony J Yeates) writes:
>>Is windows 3.1 available now? How much does it cost? Is it worth it?
>>
>>Any sign of a cheap, effective 32-bit OS yet?
>>
>The official word from Egghead is April 6, 1992

Correction: Although Windows 3.1 will have 32-bit extensions in the
future and NT will be 32-bit, if you want a 32-bit OS, you'll have to
get an 386 flavor of Unix, or OS/2 2.0 (due out end of March...).

No flames please about posting OS/2 stuff here. This was a correction,
and I think we're close enough to the release dates of both OS/2 2.0
and Windows 3.1 so we'll all soon see how the two stack up against
each other.
--
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Subject: 1024 X 768 MODES -- LARGE
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 19 Mar 92 19:23:00 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (John Will)
Organization: Satalink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324
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TO: [email protected]
JP.Is there a way to enlarge the point size or even change the font
.that Windows chooses for DOS applications that are being run in a window?

Edit your SYSTEM.INI file and in the [386Enh] section, find the line
that currently reads:

EGA80WOA.FON=EGA80WOA.FON

and change it to:

EGA80WOA.FON=8514OEM.FON

This will make the DOS windows considerably bigger and also make the
fonts readable in the window. One small problem, if you run Windows
SETUP, the old like will magically reappear. You can also edit the
SETUP.INF file to make the changes permanent, but it's a bit more
involved. The only problem I have with this in my setup is the 8514
fonts have a a few different characters, but in general it works fine.
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Subject: STACKER - RAMDRIVE
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 19 Mar 92 19:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (John Will)
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TO: [email protected]
RD.The problem I'm having is that I stack the the ramdrive but I can't
.get access to the stacked file. How can I mount this drive from my
.command line or from Autoexec.bat/ config.sys?????

Since you use a RAMdrive for speed, why in the world would you use
STACKER on it? A MUCH better solution is to use an area on your
regular drive and install a good caching program with staged writes.
That RAM will be much better spent there.
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Subject: MS Windows and SCSI hard drives
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (bmk Bradley Kuhn)
Date: 19 Mar 92 20:08:50 GMT
Organization: Baltimore Rh Laboratory, Inc., Maryland
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I have severe problems with running MS windows under a SEGATE SCSI drive
controller. I have 4 partitions (C-F). I followed the readme information
concerning SCSI drives that came with Windows. I have set the VirtualHD
variables in sys.ini to FALSE, and I have attempted to use smartdrive.
However, smartdrive fails because of my partitions. Is there something
else I can do? Windows still corrupts the FAT sectors and file systems
on my drives.
Please respond via email, because my site does not subscribe to this
newsgroup.
Thanks.

-- Brad Kuhn Computer Systems Development, Inc
INTERNET: rhlab\[email protected] OR [email protected]
BITNET: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 vs Win 3.0 comparison
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stephen M Smith)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 19:58:51 GMT
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[email protected] (Lawrence Hughes) writes:

>I will try to compare Windows with OS/2 somewhat impartially, as requested.

Great comparison! This is the most comprehensive and impartial comparison
I've read in this heated flame war. Nice job, and very informative!

A few comments...

>DOS/Windows 3.1
>
> Improvements over 3.0
[ ]

In addition to the ones you pointed out, there are a couple others:
(these are taken from a previous post by Timothy Sipple)

--special driver to bypass the BIOS to go to the hard disk
--incorporation of OLE DLLs in the API
--new Startup folder in the Program Manager
--ability to specify the default startup directory for applications
--upgrade of applets to be OLE compatible
--perhaps others [for a discussion of new features, see PC World,
February, 1992].



>OS/2 1.3
>
> Disadvantages
>
>Does not run WIN3 apps

Win 3.0 real mode apps can be run in the DOS box, though with limited
ram.

>Very difficult to buy OS/2 - poor distribution channels

This is true if you are shopping at local stores, but for a long time
now one can buy it by dialing 1-800-3IBM-OS2.

>More expensive than DOS/Windows (~200 for SE, higher for EE)

No, it's less expensive. IBM is selling it for $150 retail, or $99
if you upgrade from PC-DOS. If you order it through a local IBM
place you can get it for $80-$120.

>Requires at lease 3MB RAM, pref. 4

No, 1.3 requires 2 MB minimum, or less if you don't need DOS support.
(You might be thinking of 2.0 which requires 3 MB minimum, pref. 4-6+)

>OS/2 2.0 compared with Windows 3.1
>
> Pro OS/2 2.0
[ ]

>OS/2 will support DOS, Win3, OS/2-16 and OS/2-32 APIs, later Win3.1?

--OS/2 2.0 also supports Windows 2.x apps, something that Window 3.x doesn't.
--OS/2 2.0 multitasks Windows apps preemptively (Windows 3.x can't).


> Pro-Win3.1
[ ]
>Win3.1 will support TrueType (hopefully without conflict with ATM)

Why is this an advantage over OS/2 2.0's ATM? ATM is the standard now.
(Just wondering)

>Win3.1 will have better support for Multi-media, including new API

Win3.1 has better support for Multi-media? I don't think so. Windows
multimedia works under OS/2 2.0, and OS/2 2.0 has multimedia extensions
of its own which go beyond those in Windows.

Your general comments:
[ ]
>Multimedia will never catch on as a mainstream technology, outside
>of PR shops and some corporate presentations, hence will not "pull"
>Win3.1 sales to any great extent

I've thought pretty much the same thing myself. Hopefully the hype about
multimedia will push the hardware development on, and the new hardware
development will cause new multimedia aspirations. Sort of a self-
fulfilling prophecy. 🙂

Steve Smith | __|__ | " #*&<-[89s]*(k#$@-_=//a2$]'+=.(2_&*%>,,@
ohio-state.edu> | | |
BTW, WYSInaWYG | | | --witty.saying.ARC

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Subject: Re: compiling Petzold sources with BC++2
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (TRISTAN ANDREW KENNEDY BATES)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 05:28:19 GMT
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[email protected] (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:

>Hi folks,
>I'm trying to compile sources from Petzold's book using BC++ 2.0. They
>compile fine, but when I try to run them Windows complains that the programs
>where compiled for a previous version of windows. It then proceeds to run
>them OK. Borlands own whello.cpp compiles and runs fine.
>So, what am I doing wrong?
>Thanks,
>Zeyd

I've just started doing the same with Petzolds examples but they all
seem to work fine in your respect (I don't get any messages complaining about
which windows version they were compiled for. I'm using a '386 33Mhz in
enhanced mode and BC++2.0). What did worry me though was when I tried the
HelloWin program, it all compiled and linked perfectly BUT when it started up,
the text did not appear until I resized the window even though windows was sent
an UpdateWindow message. Wierd. But worse still, apart from that problem, I
tried my usual program integrity check (do everything you can as fast as you
can) and I manage to get an unrecoverable application error! And this is
supposed to be one of the simplest windows programs that you can write! This
worries me greatly because the code is definitely EXACTLY the same as in
Petzold. BC++2.0's whello.cpp has none of this problem though. It works just
fine. Any ideas? (Maybe because BC++'s version uses C++ classes instead of
Petzolds plain C).

Tristan Bates
[email protected]
University of Newcastle
NSW, Australia



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Subject: test
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Rudy Bakalov)
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--
"Good Taste is Always an Asset"

| Rudy Bakalov, MBA Student
| Babcock Graduate School of Management, Wake Forest University, NC 27109
| Internet [email protected]
| tel (919) 759-2199
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Subject: Re: More bang for the buck ? Ease of Use ? (Mac or PC Clones)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Coolidge)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 08:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected]
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[email protected] (Craig R. Nelson) writes:
>While apple
>stays in the quagmire of the courts battling for illbegotten user interface
>"right" we in the realm of the real world will never forget it was S.Jobs
>that stole

Licensed.

> said same "look and feel" from Xerox after his much-publicized
>visit to Palo Alto Research Center. It's one thing to be competitive, yet
>far another to practice common theivery.

There are several issues here. First, Apple paid for the technology it
got from Xerox PARC; Xerox gave authorization for them to use it, and
then tried to complain later. Second, copyrights are lost if not
defended; any claim Xerox had to copyright in their work was lost well
before Apple filed suit. Third, none of the UI components in the
Apple-Microsoft/HP suit are related to work done by Xerox; they're all
work done by Apple post-Xerox.

Basically, if you believe in user-interface copyright, then Apple has a
perfect right to defend work it believes it owns. If you don't, then
Apple should lost the suit, but Apple would also be blameless of 'theft'
from Xerox even without the legal defenses they've already demonstrated.
You can't have it both ways...

--John

It's so fast, it can do an infinite loop in 30 seconds.
--Brian Bechtel, when the Mac IIfx came out

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:[email protected]++May:[email protected]++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed and if all copies may be further copied.

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Coolidge)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 08:14:47 GMT
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[email protected] (Bill Coleman) writes:
>I'd suggest your figures are in error. There are roughly 10 PC computers for
>each Mac in the installed base. Sales are roughly 8 to 1 at the present time,
>so that ratio seems to be getting smaller.

I'm not sure where your figures come from, but they differ from those
I've heard many times (and read in the Wall Street Journal, amoung other
sources). Apple's sales never hit 1/8 PC sales even in the darkest days
of the late 1980's. The smallest market share Apple had was about 13% of
the entire PC market, which includes other competitors besides PClones.

By mid-1991, Apple sales were over 25% of the PC market. I understand
that with the continued growth in sales, especially in the PowerBook
series (which now has over 20% of the portable/notebook market) that
Apple is up around 30% of the PC market. Sales are continuing to grow,
although certainly not at the mid-1991 pace.

These are all U.S. numbers. Worldwide, Apple is as strong or stronger
than they are in the U.S. This is especially true in Japan, where the
leading machine is an PC-ish machine incompatible with U.S. clones
(according to friends who have lived there and news reports). Apple is
by far the largest U.S. PC vendor in the Japanese market. They're also
very strong across Europe.

--John

It's so fast, it can do an infinite loop in 30 seconds.
--Brian Bechtel, when the Mac IIfx came out

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:[email protected]++May:[email protected]++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
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Subject: Re: Group Reorganization: Who's in on this?
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Peter Brouwer)
Date: 20 Mar 92 07:48:53 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Peter Brouwer)
Sender: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise B.V.,Apeldoorn,The Netherlands.
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X-Disclaimer: This opinion is mine alone

In <1992Mar17.161532.[email protected]> [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar) writes:


>In a previous article, [email protected] (Roger Hadgraft, Civil staff, ext 4983) says:

>>In article [email protected] (Michael Regoli) writes:
>>
>>Can I suggest:
>>
>>comp.windows.msmiscellaneous stuff
>>comp.windows.ms.setuphardware, drivers, etc
>>comp.windows.ms.appsapplications
>>comp.windows.ms.futurefuture of the beast
>>comp.windows.ms.programmeralready exists for programming matters

>I like your suggestions. I suggest that we rename comp.windows.ms.future
>to comp.windows.ms.nt, and in addition to the groups above we add
>comp.windows.ms.multimedia.

>So to summarize, my suggestions would be:
>comp.windows.msmiscellaenous announcements etc.
>comp.windows.ms.setuphardware, drivers etc.
>comp.windows.ms.appsapplications
>comp.windows.ms.ntWindows NT

No I don't agree with the previous group. NT is a new operating system.
One of the modes is presenting an display manager for mswindows.
NT can also be equiped with modules for UNIX for instance.

So leave NT out of the mswindow structure, NT should get its own group
structure.

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Subject: Re: Windows threatens world security!?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Steven Malikoff)
Date: 20 Mar 92 06:23:50 GMT
References:
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
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[email protected] (Mike Johnston) writes:
: In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Todd J Derr) writes:
: Hmmm.... I thought UAE stood for "United Arab Emirates"? Guess I must
: be wrong.

No. You're incorrect. UAE actually stands for "Uncontrollable African Elephant".

Steve.
[email protected]

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Subject: Problem with Win 3.1 standard mode and int's
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Jorge Aragon)
Date: 20 Mar 92 10:23:09 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
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After updating Win 3.0 to Win 3.1 we got problems with our application
and Win 3.1 standard mode. The reason is that our IRQ2 redirection to
our own protected mode application does not work any more. It worked
fine with Win 3.0 in standard and enhanced mode. With Win 3.1 it still
works fine in enhanced mode, but no longer at all in standard mode.

Here's our code based to DPMI for this application:


; This is the interrupt handler code
;
PM71Handler:
pushds
pushes
pushdi
pushf
cld
movax, es
movds, ax
cCallCInt71Handler
popf
popdi
popes
popds
movax,es:[_Old71Off]
moves:[di+2ah], ax
movax,es:[_Old71Seg]
moves:[di+2ch], ax
iret
;
; Hook_Int_71 replaces the old real-mode interrupt handler
; by our new protected mode interrupt handler.
;
cProcHook_Int_71, ,
cBegin
;
; Get old real-mode int handler
;
movax, 0200h
movbx, IRQ2
int31h
jnch_1
movax, 10; no ... set error code
jmph_0
h_1:mov[_Old71Seg], cx
mov[_Old71Off], dx
;
; Now set it to new callback address
;
pushds
movbx, cs
movds, bx
movsi, OFFSET PM71Handler
popes
pushes
movdi, OFFSET _Call71Structure
movax, 303h
int31h; call DPMI
popds
jnch_2; Did it work ?
movax, 11; no ... set error code
jmph_0
h_2:mov[_CB71Seg], cx; Yes .. save callback address
mov[_CB71Off], dx
movax, 201h; Attempt to set interrupt vector
movbx, IRQ2
int31h
jnch_3; Did it work ?
movax, 12; no ... set error code
jmph_0
h_3:movax, 0; Yes .. Indicate success
h_0:
cEnd

So, that's it... and I said it before: No trouble at all with Win 3.0
but with Win 3.1 it does not work at all (standard mode).

Thanks for replies in this group or directly to me: [email protected]

Jorge

PS: By the way: is someone from Microsoft out there who nows something
about this prob yet???? Is it a bug in 3.1 version ???

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Subject: Re: 1024 X 768 MODES -- LARGE
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bernt Ribbum)
Date: 20 Mar 92 10:41:14 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: University Of Wollongong
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[email protected] (John Will) writes:

>Edit your SYSTEM.INI file and in the [386Enh] section, find the line
>that currently reads:
>EGA80WOA.FON=EGA80WOA.FON
>and change it to:
>EGA80WOA.FON=8514OEM.FON

If there is any interest, I can post (to which newsgroup, by the way?)
a tiny Windows program that will update the SYSTEM.INI section for you.
Just mail me.

Bernt
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Subject: VB Visual Basic 256 COLOR BMP FILES ?!?!?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Sander Raaymakers)
Date: 20 Mar 92 10:49:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.ms
Organization: AND Software BV Rotterdam
Keywords: BMP 256 VB Visual Basic Prototyping
Summary: cannot load 256 color bmp files HELP
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Keywords: Visual Basic, BMP, 16 color, What about 256 colors?!?!?

!!! HELP !!!

I'm really desperate. I just started using Visual Basic for prototyping
the interface of a picture displaying program.

The LoadPicture function does what it's supposed to when I'm loading
16 color BMP-files, but.....

256 color BMP-files.... how the h*ll can I get VB to display them too???


Please E-Mail me the answers because I a very busy worker....


Ciao,
Alessandro

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Anthony Murdoch)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 11:48:44 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (USENET News System)
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Lines: 36

[email protected] (John Will) writes:

>TO: [email protected]
>AB.>> But the only reason to run in enhanced mode is to be able to run
> .>> multiple dos sessions concurrently.
> .
> .>And here I thought that to open a single DOS window and still keep
> .>things running, I had to use enhanced mode! Mind telling me how you
> .>do that in standard mode?
> .
> .>I surely must be doing something wrong.
> .
> .Yeah, like not reading the comments to which you refer.

>Perhaps if you read a bit more carefully, you wouldn't make stupid
>statements like that. I am NOT referring to multiple DOS windows,
>if I just want to occasionally use a DOS job, it stops EVERYTHING
>else in standard mode, including all the Windows applications
>currently running. Is your reading comprehension improving any?
>Try reading the whole post before breaking out the flame gun.
>---
> . EZ 1.36 #41 . I'm sorry my karma ran over your dogma
>
John, put that flame thrower away. The point (I think) that everyone
has been trying to explain to you is that this discussion is about
why you would want windows to run in enhanced mode under OS/2 2.0.

The thing is, a dos session under OS/2 is not going to stop any of
your windows programs from running. That's the beauty of pre-emptive
multitasking - it works.

The spanner in the works however, is that some programs demand to be
run in enhanced mode, sometimes because they must have access to a
large swapfile.

ant

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Anthony Murdoch)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 11:57:23 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (USENET News System)
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
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[email protected] (Donald A. Lehn) writes:

>As for OS/2 being able to run dos programs better than Windows, this I
>have to see. I have several dos programs that I can run in the enhanced
>mode of Windows that won't run under OS/2 1.3 at all. Unless IBM has
>done things to substantially improve the dos emulation in OS/2 over the
>half-hearted attempt that they previously made, there is no way that
>OS/2 will be better at runnind dos programs than windows.

When you can show me Wing Commander II running in a Windows dos box,
then I will admit that Windows isn't as bad as I thought with regards
to the dos box. If you can show me it running in a window, then I'll
admit that it's almost as good as OS/2 v2.

I've been playing the new Ultima Underworld demo in an OS/2 dos box on
my 25MHz 386 for the past few days with no hassles. Any windows users
up to that claim ?

Note that I still think that windows is doing a damm fine job, considering
what it has to run on top of.

ant

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Subject: Re: Printing Different Pages in WFW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (S. Choi)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 22:59:09 EST
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Syracuse University
Lines: 25

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephen Medlin) writes:
>
>................
>On a different note, what causes WFW to create such humongous
>POSTSCRIPT print files. I took an ~30K file with 3-4 fonts in it (16
>pages of a final for the course that I teach--lots of white space in
>the document) and when I printed to a file, the resulting print file
>was 2.6 MB. I know that WFW adds the whole font definition for each
>occurence of a font (or, at least that is what we have surmised), but
>this seems to be a little extreme. Is there a way to pare this down?
>Any utilities that do this or perhaps a better Printer Driver that is
>more efficient (and FASTER)?
>
>Thanks for any information.
>
>Stephen Medlin
>[email protected] [email protected]
>[email protected]


I asked this question before, got no answer. WFW2.0 down-loads soft fonts
for every page. For example, if you put equations in you document, WFW down-
loads at least 3 fonts every time it hits new page with equations.
This makes output file very big. I don't know how to fix this. If you got the
answer, please let me know.

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Subject: Re: ATM 2.0 + Helvetica
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 12:32:14 GMT
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In article <1992Mar19.162448.2[email protected]> [email protected] (Marcus Harvey) writes:
>As usual these PC v. Mac v. Amiga v. Next arguments come down to something
>even deeper: 'salt-of-the-earth-good-rock-n-roll-guys' technical types v.
>'yuppy-moron-pinko-weirdo-pervert-trash' creative types...
>
>....whatever happened to the Renaissance?
>
>Anyway the answer to the question is, 'Yes, PC's are cheaper than Macs'.
>
Here! Here!

>Somehow I don't think it makes a blind bit of difference to Neville Brody
>et al.

Three cheers for someone who remembers the real topic of this thread.
and let all hope that this is the end of it.

It all boils down to the fact the we all (MAC and PC user alike) have
invested both time and money in knowing and loving our respective
machines. An when we hear someone slander the one we hold so dear
we react often viciously.

As a mostly PC user, no MAC person is going to make me throw out my
machine and run off to the nearest Apple dealer, and I doubt that
I will sway and MAC users either. We all know that, so let's all
end this exhausted discussion, anf something more creative to talk
about - like how can we make the 2 platforms more compatable.

I for one would like to sit down at a "machine" and do my word
processing and not know or care wether its a MAC or a PC. Microsoft
Excel (and now Word to some degree) is about the closest I've come.

I look forward to the day when MAC and PC people can remain in the
same room without bloodshed.

Steve


Steve Gutz
AECL Research Company, Chalk River Laboratories
Chalk River, Ontario, Canada
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: DeskJet driver on Cica
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Joe Wasik)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 20:33:10 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Joe Wasik)
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Lines: 19

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Taylor) writes:
>The HP DeskJet Series v2.1 driver for the DeskJet 500C and the DeskJet 500
>is now available through cica/ftp in the following directory:
>pub/pc/win3/drivers/printer
>Bob Taylor

Thanks for the info, Bob. Perhaps you or anyone else could explain what this
would add to our deskjets (I have a 500) or our existing drivers (I have
the 1.0 "scallable" (whatever that means) driver). Will this new driver
work with Windows 3.1's True Type?

Thanks.


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Subject: TrueType and Service Bureau Postscript Printing
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Alan Walford)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 11:01:36 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Eos Systems Inc, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I am confused once again (too often an occurance ;-).

I read recently (was it here or in some trade mag) that TrueType in Win 3.1 is
going to be useless for anyone using 3rd party service bureaus to do high
resolution postscript output. The reasoning was that all these places use
Postscript Type I fonts and so your TrueType doc will not print or will look
different (ie. no WYSIWYG).

If I create a nice brochure using TrueType and some Windows tool and
print it on my local postscript until it looks nice then why can I not take
it to my service place with their 1200dpi PostScript printer and have it
print there looking exactly the same (but better quality). [now that's a
run-on sentence!]

Is it because the TrueType rasterizer is on the CPU and will rasterize for
300dpi only? A PostScript file created this way will look exactly the
same then on the 1200dpi printer because all the fonts are rasterized at
300dpi (it might actually look worse since the 1200dpi machine will not
blur the outlines as much). Or is just that some fonts will not print
at all?

I know this topic came up before in this group but I do not remember the
outcome. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks,

Al

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Subject: Re: Netware lite and Windows 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (A. Gavras)
Date: 20 Mar 92 12:44:43 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (A. Gavras)
References: <[email protected]>
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In article , [email protected] (Alan Walford) writes:

|> Just install
|> NetWare Lite as per manuals. Login into net and map your drives and
|> capture your printers (using the net command) before Windows comes up.

Don't forget to use LPT1.OS2 / LPT2.OS2 as your printer ports in Win3.0
or it will not work.
If your Win3.0 is installed on a local drive then you have no further
trouble.
If you try to run Win3.0 from a network drive then you must be aware that
Win3.0 opens more than 15 files on the server (Win3.0 SETUP.EXE writes the
line FILES=30 in your CONFIG.SYS). Now because NWLite depends on DOS you
must define sufficient open files on the server that serves a specific
number of clients. The max number of FILES=255 gives the upper bound of
clients that may be served from a server at the same time running windows.
If you want to serve more client than 8 then you need an additional server.
I tried to run more clients and found out that 11..13 clients (depends on
the Apps) can run Win3.0 at the same time without problems.

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Subject: WfW and books
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ed van Leeuwen)
Date: 20 Mar 92 12:19:12 GMT
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Lines: 29

I have the following problem:

I edit books (each page A5 size) and want this printed landscape
on my printer. Does WfW do such a trick?

Follow-up:
Even better would be to print it in a book(let) way (i.e.
pages 1 and 4, 3 and 2 together on two A4's). Is there
a solution for this (e.g. a macro).

Configuration:

386/40 PC with DRDOS 6.0
Word for Windows 1.0
Canon LBP4+ printer.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

Ed.
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Subject: Re: 486/33 -- cannot install Windows 3.0
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Mellin Jorma)
Date: 20 Mar 92 11:20:31 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bellave S. Jayaram) writes:

>Hi folks,

> I recently ordered a 486/33 system from Santron Computer
>with the following config:

>4MB Main memory
>OPTI chipset
>256k external cache

> I then started installing Windows and I got all the way until
>Disk #4. It finished reading the disk and there was a message that
>said something like Begin Program Manager Groups - and then in a flash,
>the screen went blank. I tried it several times and the same thing
>happened. I called the support hotline and the guy suggested that
>I try changing some of the BIOS setup parameters. I am not sure if
>the guy understood my problem or not.

>Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.


Remove from your config.sys the line DEVICE=%PATH%\HIMEM.SYS, reboot and
run Windows setup again.
It should work.

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Subject: Re: More bang for the buck ? Ease of Use ? (Mac or PC Clones)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dave Medin)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 21:53:46 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (David "Lefty" Schlesinger) writes:
|> In article <1852[email protected]>, [email protected] (Stephen L Wyatt) writes:

|> > The simple fact is that Apple has a monopoly on its type of machine, which
|> > the clones have hundreds of manufactures trying to make their machines
|> > better.
|>
|> I think what they have is hundreds of manufacturers, and not necessarily the
|> same ones from month to month, trying to make their machines more _cheaply_.
|> I don't see a whole lot of technical innovation at the hardware level going
|> on among the clone manufacturers.

You need to get out some more... Ever heard of Chips and Technologies?
IBM clones beat Apple to page interleaved memory, for example. Apple
has almost always led in video capability, on the other hand (even if
more expensive per unit performance).

In the past several years, I've seen quite a few pieces of technical
innovation among the vendors that sell to the clone manufacturers. What have
been Apple's "innovations" in the same time frame? I do like the fact that
the video subsystems and power supplies are not the bombs they used to
be (failures among the Classic and later Macs appear to be much less
than their predecessors). However, fixing one's mistakes can hardly
be called an innovation.

|> > It doesn't take an economist to figure it out. Apple sales have been
|> > decreasing yearly, and I don't think their going to be able to survive in
|> > the cut-throat computer market.
|>
|> This is a serious mistatement of fact. Actually, Apple is one of the few
|> manufacturers who sales _increased_ this last year. By over fifty percent.
|> Apple was virtually the only manufacturer of personal computer that experienced
|> any growth at all; Apple's growth in sales accounted for _virtually_ _all_ of
|> the growth in the PC market in 1991.

The *serious* decline in Apple's market share actually occurred in the
87 - 89 timeframe, after which Apple had an executive restucturing, prices
were dropped, and strategies were embraced to allow more third party
development. This history was well-covered in the technical press.
Apple has been recovering since that time.

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Subject: QEMM-386 vs EMM386?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ross Keele)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 92 03:18:00 cst
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To: [email protected]
On 03-17-92 Dave Haertig wrote to All...

DH> How much better is QEMM-386 than the DOS 5.0 program EMM386? How much
DH> additional memory are QEMM users getting over EMM386? How about
DH> stability (is QEMM-386 a "finicky" program)? Compatability with
DH> Windows 3.0, Stacker 2.0, Central Point Backup 7.1?
DH>
DH> Thanks,
DH> Dave Haertig
DH> [email protected]

Hi Dave,

I have been using QEMM v6 for over 1/2 a year now and have had nary a problem
from it in terms of incompatibilities with other hardware/software. I run both
Win3.0 and CP BackUp 7.1 without a hitch. QEMM also will give you more
conventional memory back than EMM386 will. Although I do not have Stacker 2.0
*yet*, I have not heard of any incompatibilities. QEMM also comes with a
program called Manifest that gives you a very detailed run down on system
memory, which can be very handy when you are fine tuning. The automatic
"optimize" feature is also superior. I would suggest that it is a very worth
while investment. Good luck...


Ross
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Subject: Re: Windows threatens world security!?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Keith Thigpen)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 15:05:05 GMT
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[email protected] (Steven Malikoff) writes:

>[email protected] (Mike Johnston) writes:
>: In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Todd J Derr) writes:
>: Hmmm.... I thought UAE stood for "United Arab Emirates"? Guess I must
>: be wrong.

>No. You're incorrect. UAE actually stands for "Uncontrollable African Elephant".

>Steve.
>[email protected]

Nah, guys. My Maytag guy says that it's "Unanticipated Appliance Expulsion".

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (RICK CARLE)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 14:09:22 GMT
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[email protected] (Doug Holberg) writes:
>Regarding compatibility of DRDOS 6.0 and Win 3.1:
>.................... Microsoft claims 12,000 beta testers for
>Win3.1. NOT ONE OF THEM A DRDOS USER???? Simply amazing!!!!

Even more amazing when you consider that Novell is supposed to be one of
those beta sites.


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Subject: Re: compiling Petzold sources with BC++2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Tim Hunter
Date: Friday, 20 Mar 1992 08:12:45 EST
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Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
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In article ,
c89206[email protected] (TRISTAN ANDREW KENNEDY BATES) says:
>
>[email protected] (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:
>
>>Hi folks,
>>I'm trying to compile sources from Petzold's book using BC++ 2.0. They
>>compile fine, but when I try to run them Windows complains that the programs
>>where compiled for a previous version of windows. It then proceeds to run
>>them OK. Borlands own whello.cpp compiles and runs fine.
>>So, what am I doing wrong?
>
> I've just started doing the same with Petzolds examples but they all
>seem to work fine in your respect (I don't get any messages complaining about
>which windows version they were compiled for. I'm using a '386 33Mhz in
>enhanced mode and BC++2.0). What did worry me though was when I tried the
>HelloWin program, it all compiled and linked perfectly BUT when it started up,
>the text did not appear until I resized the window even though windows was
>sent
>an UpdateWindow message. Wierd. But worse still, apart from that problem, I
>tried my usual program integrity check (do everything you can as fast as you
>can) and I manage to get an unrecoverable application error! And this is
>supposed to be one of the simplest windows programs that you can write! This
>worries me greatly because the code is definitely EXACTLY the same as in
>Petzold. BC++2.0's whello.cpp has none of this problem though. It works just
>fine. Any ideas? (Maybe because BC++'s version uses C++ classes instead of
>Petzolds plain C).
>
In the first case (Windows complains that the program is not a Windows 3.0
program, you need to run the resource compiler on the linked .exe. This has
to be done even if you don't have any resources because one of RC's functions
is to mark the executable as a Windows 3.0 app. Petzold mentions this.

In the second case, you need to EXPORT the WndProc. I ran into this same
problem with this program (as has just about every novice Windows programmer).

Hope this helps!

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Subject: Re: COLD BOOT FROM DOS WINDOW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (brian daniels)
Date: 20 Mar 92 14:41:21 GMT
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--Notes about a small Debug program to force a cold boot deleted--

Just a cautionary note: I can think of several situations where
triggering a cold boot inside of Windows could be a Bad Thing.
There is a chance that windows will be busy acessing the HD at
the time you set it off....and that could get ugly....

Later,
Brian

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Subject: RE:Free System Resources
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From: [email protected] ("Don Rivard")
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I was under the impression that Free System Resources only included
the "Base Memory". That is they live in the first 640K. Am I wrong?

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Doug McDonald)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 14:49:15 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Mark Sandrock) writes:
>[email protected] (Jess M Holle) writes:
>
>>To be a DOS/Windows user REQUIRES the mastery of huge amounts of low level
>>junk. Down the hall from me I have 3 friends with PC's. Two cannot get
>>their external modems to work due to Comm port incompatibilities. One
>>cannot get his internal modem to work due to some lost Autoexec.bat line
>>or something. I have worked with PC's for two years and have never gotten
>>over the problems the things ALWAYS seem to have. Using the aforementioned
>>documentation, one can modify anything about their Mac that they want, but
>>they are not required to learn bitcodes for all the assembly instruction and
>>compute offsets by hand, to continue with the C vs. machine code analogy.
>
>This is so true that it surely falls into the category of "patently apparent".
>I'd like to see someone try to estimate the huge loss of productivity in this
>country due to the widespread use of the PC/DOS standard. It would have to be
>staggering in my opinion. I can tell stories too, but there's not much point.
>PC's are fine for some people, but I think they have been foisted upon many
>unwitting non-technical people, who had no idea what they were getting into.
>Many, if not most of whom would have been better advised to get a Mac! The
>whole thing reminds me of the fable about the "Emperor's clothes" if you get
>my meaning. Take away the nameplates, do a "blind" user-preference test, and
>see how things come out then. It wouldn't even be a contest. Cost? Go figure
>the cost of the lost productivity and then tell me that PC's are still cheaper.
>
>Another $0.02 worth,
>
>Mark Sandrock
>--
>UIUC Chemical Sciences Computer Center`Training is therefore, in some ways
>505 S. Matthews Ave., Urbana, IL 61801at any rate, just cleaning the channels
>Voice: 217-244-0561through which energy flows.'
>Internet: [email protected] Newton

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Subject: Driver for Panasonic KX-P2180 color printer
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: kenl@telxon (Ken K. Lambach)
Date: 13 Mar 92 12:31:40 GMT
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I recently purchased a Panasonic KX-P2180 dot matrix printer. This
printer has a color option which I am planning to purchase this
weekend. The manual says the printer emulates an Epson FX-850
plus Color Extensions.

I am looking for a driver for this printer (or the FX-850 with Color
Extensions) which runs under Windows and supports color. The
FX-850 driver on my Windows disk does not support the color
extensions. If anyone has such a driver or knows where I can get
one, please email me. I have no access to ftp.

Thanks in advance.

* Ken Lambach
* Telxon Corp Akron, Ohio
* uunet!telxon!kenl

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Subject: WinQVT/Net News Reader promblem
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: dgl%[email protected] (Gilbert Lee)
Date: 20 Mar 92 16:16:27 GMT
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My main interest is the news reader. I do not seem to have any problems with
reading but I cannot figure out how to successfully post articles (This one
is actually being generated on a Mac (hsss!)). I typically end up with a
message:
Error 441 on attempt to post article!
I am somewhat confused about how to use notepad when an article is being
created and how the post operation is supposed to get the notepad article.

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance

Gilbert Lee
[email protected]



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Subject: Windows vs MS Mouse on COM1:
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: yon%[email protected] (David A. Yon)
Date: 20 Mar 92 13:59:41 GMT
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Hi all,

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I just got a Microsoft OEM Serial
Mouse and am trying to get it to work on my 386. I've run SETUP for
Windows and told it that there is a "Microsoft or PS/2 Mouse" connected.
I've also loaded MOUSE.SYS in CONFIG.SYS. Now here are the strange
behaviors:

1) The mouse works under DOS, but only if I specifiy "/c1" on the
MOUSE.SYS command line. Otherwise the driver is unable to locate
the mouse.
2) Windows will not recognize the mouse at all.

Windows used to work fine with a Mouse Systems Optical mouse
connected to the bus card, but it cheerfully ignores the Microsoft
mouse. I suspect that because I had to force MOUSE.SYS to look for
the mouse at COM1 (through the /c1 switch), I think that Windows is
similarly unable to find it.

1) Has anyone else had this problem?
2) Is there a way to tell Windows: "Hey you dummy, look for the
mouse on COM1!"

Any help appreciated....

David Yon
yon%[email protected] <--- use this address

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Subject: 3.1 Upgrade Questions
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David Harper)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 16:27:54 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (news access account)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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Like many others I am considering upgrading to Windows 3.1 when it becomes
available in a couple of weeks. Yesterday I received the brochure from
Microsoft describing the 3.1 release but it left several unanswered questions.
Can anyone answer the following?

* The brochure talks about a "new universal printer driver that optimizes
printer drivers for all types of printers." I have a Deskjet 500C - will
this printer driver handle that printer (in color) using the new TrueType
fonts?

* It looks like 3.1 comes with the same internal fonts that 3.0 came with
(although in TrueType form). For $50 more you can get the Font Pack which
adds many additional fonts. Unfortunately, nowhere does it say which
fonts you get for this $50. Specifically, I am interested in the Dingbat
font (this is used to supply "bullets" when doing presentation slides).

* The brochure talks about the Resource Kit ($19.95) but does not give very
much info on what it will do for me. Anyone have any further details on
what this package is?


Thanks for any help on the above!

Dave Harper - Convex Computer Corp. E-mail address:
3000 Waterview Pky. Richardson, TX 75081 [email protected]
(214) 497-4525 (W) (214) 727-4206 (H)

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Subject: Re: W4W2.0 -vs- dull Crayola on Kleenex--> go the Crayola
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Shiva Shenoy)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 16:23:51 GMT
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In <1992Mar18.20473[email protected]> [email protected] (Jim Woodward) writes:


>I have never cussed so loud, smoked so much, lost as much hair
>or experienced anything more frustrating than trying to get this
>miserable SOB to work. Before noon today, MS WORD for Windows
>2.0 had caused no less than four "general default errors in the
>WINWORD.EXE module... Whatever that means. It then gives a nice
>little dialog box in which I can choose to ignore the problem or
>close the application. When I push "Ignore", the system crashes to
>the ground. The "Close" option simply closes WFW and loses all the
>work I had since the last auto save. (I've got that set at 5
>minutes now).

>In addition, I twice lost *all* of my headers. Thirty sections of
>unique headers just vanished (twice) for no apparent reason. Luckily
>I had saved the file earlier under a different name but it still
>involved several hours of work to fix. By 1 pm I was in the minus
>category for completed work.

>In the morning, I have decided to walk over to the file cabinet
>and pick up the Good ole reliable WFW1.1 diskettes. I'll wait for
>Microsoft to get its pitiful act together before I try upgrading
>again.

Have you considered getting WFW 2.0a (the free update for registered users)
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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jim Mann)
Date: 20 Mar 92 14:37:54 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Aaron Wallace) writes:
> I think you'd actually find that for those who aren't pre-biased (and
thus
> have never seen a computer before), the differences would be slight.
Compared
> to the large gap between the general population and computers, the DOS
vs. Mac
> vs. UNIX differences are slight.

I disagree. I have watched adults and children try to learn how
to use computers. Everyone that I've seen try the Mac has learned
all the basics in 15 minutes or so. That is, after that time, they
know how to start up an application, how to select an item from
a menu, how to move a file, how to select text.

Try that on DOS. Instead of point and click, menus, and other user
friendly features, you have to memorize command names, arguments,
etc. And Unix is worse. At least in DOS the command names are
vaguely reasonable. Type might not be the best command for displaying
something but at least it has SOMETHING to do with words. It's far
better than cat.


--
Jim Mann
[email protected]
Stratus Computer

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Subject: RFT Format?
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Juha I. Sepp{l{)
Date: 20 Mar 92 16:46:41 GMT
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Where can I find the description of Rich Text Format? Thank you in
advance.

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Subject: Re: Alternate shells in Win 3.1?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David H. Friedman)
Date: 20 Mar 92 15:05:14 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (David H. Friedman)
References: <[email protected]>
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In article <1992Mar19.083546.1494[email protected]> [email protected] (Terry Henning) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know if you can replace the shell in Windows 3.1 with alternate
>shells for Windows 3.0, e.g. backmenu?
>
>Thanks,
>

>Terry
>
>[email protected]

Ditto for Command Post 7.0 - [email protected]

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Subject: Re: Re^2: More bang for the buck ? Ease of Use ? (Mac or PC Clones)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bill Coleman)
Date: 13 Mar 92 23:40:04 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John Grohol) writes:
> [email protected] (Bill Coleman) writes:
> [on the discussion about DDE, OBL, and AppleEvents...]
>
>>I disagree. The Windows implementation is clearly inferior.
>
> Have we looked at Windows 3.1 lately? Much better network
> support...
>

Windows 3.1 is a great improvement over Windows 3.0, but I don't believe it
corrects the fundamental deficiencies in Hot Links vs Pub and Sub or
DDE vs AppleEvents. I'll check it out.

--
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Principal Software Engineer ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
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Subject: Re: STacker 2.0 and Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bosco Lai)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1992 09:23:08 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
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>In article , [email protected] (Paul Magid
>) writes:
>
>> I am sick to death of seeing all these wonderful testimonials for stacker 2.
>> Actually, they are probably the reason I bought the d*mn program. Two weeks
>> ago I started getting random read and write errors. This episode ended with
>> my 200meg drive trashed and I have been spending incredible amounts of time
>> trying to get my system back to what it was. I determined that it was not a
>> software conflict and it was not a hardware conflict either. During this time
>> I called their tech support number several times. Big surprise: they were
>> totally unhelpful.
>

>He is right, everything I have read also has been wonderful testimonials.
>No one else have problems with Stacker? I just bought Stacker 2 the other day
>and installed it on my 90meg IDE drive. Works fine with one exception. My son
>has Falcon3 which requires >600 Kb lower RAM. If I load smartdrv high and
>try to run this program off the stacked drive I get a lockup. I have another
>drive which is not stacked. If I run it off that drive under this configuration
>it runs fine. After fiddling with this for a while, I found that the problem
>is some kind of funny interaction between smartdrv high and stacker. The
>solution was to go to another disk cache and everything worked fine.
>
>I was going to stack my second drive, but after Paul's testimonial I think I
>will wait a little longer. I too do not like the absence of an unstack option.
>Other than this, I have no complaints and like the software very much.
>
>....Ron
>
>

I have a 80MB hard drive and I just installed stacker couple weeks ago.
I was much more than happy when I found I had 70MB more or so on my
hard drive... But It just happened to me yesterday that I got and
"insufficent disk space" error when I was trying to copy a file (800K
in size) to my hard drive. I realized "dir" reported there was around
300KB left.. but "chkdsk" and PCTools kept reporting there was more
than 50MB left... and as a matter of fact, if stacker really could
double my hard drive, I should have this amount (50MB more) of space
on my hard drive! So, what stacker gave me was just 15MB or so.. far
less than I expected.

Anybody has any idea?

Bosco.

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Subject: RE: W4W2.0 -vs- dull Crayola on Kleenex--> go the Crayola
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 20 Mar 92 16:32:40 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (USENET News System)
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In a previous article, [email protected] (Kijin Jung) wrote:
>
>In a previous article, [email protected] (Jim Woodward) says:
>
>>the ground. The "Close" option simply closes WFW and loses all the
>>work I had since the last auto save. (I've got that set at 5
>>minutes now).
>
>Perhaps you should turn the auto save feature off. I've heard that
>it, in itself, causes a _lot_ of problems (although I've never
>encountered them, since I don't turn it on in the first place...)

I thought it was the Fast Save feature that did it? Could be
wrong though. I also heard that Word 2.0a fixes these problems,
specifically the losing headers thing. I can't say for certain
since I haven't ordered my copy of 2.0a yet.

Jim. I would suggest calling Microsoft about the upgrade
to 2.0a. From what I've heard here on the net, you will
have your new copy in just a few days.

- Darryl Friesen
([email protected])

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (sean kelly `94)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:21:12 GMT
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Windows magazine just released a new issue with a review of both Windows 3.1 and OS/2 2.0. The writer says that (using a 386/16) he notices a small performance hit when running Dos under OS/2 in a window, but when he ran Dos in full screen mode it was just as fast as if he was not running out of OS/2 at all. OS/2 also runs windows sessions fairly well, with a few fixes it should be (supposedly) as good as Windows 3.0 running by itself. His only complaints were that the tools included in OS/2 (ie. a soun





d editor, text editor...) were terrible (and supposedly take up 6MB of disk space). OS/2 also fails to include any of the windows tools (File Manager...). He ran OS/2 on a PS/2 (after discovering problems with his video driver) and also suffered from a number of errors (a scrolling problem in DOS windows...). Overall OS/2 shows good potential but still has many of the problems of a Beta version.

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Subject: Re: WinQVT/Net News Reader problem
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 17:28:18 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> dgl%[email protected] (Gilbert Lee) writes:

>My main interest is the news reader. I do not seem to have any problems with
>reading but I cannot figure out how to successfully post articles (This one
>is actually being generated on a Mac (hsss!)). I typically end up with a
>message:
> Error 441 on attempt to post article!
>I am somewhat confused about how to use notepad when an article is being
>created and how the post operation is supposed to get the notepad article.

Make sure that you have a pnews.hdr file in the directory that
you run WinQVT/Net. Also make sure that the header in pnews.hdr
is what your NNTP hosts requires.

Ashok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ashok A. Aiyar
Department of Biochemistry
CWRU School of Medicine
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Subject: Re: Windows video problems
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Friel)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 16:37:32 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Christopher Radlinski) writes:
>Every time I read this news group, it seems as though there are
>loads of people having loads of problems with video cards and
>drivers for Windows.

Chris just cited the main reason why Tandon and lots of other PC makers that
have Microsoft DOS/Windows OEM licenses are pre-loading drives: the support
is a gaint nightmare. It is much easier to install things here on a factory
floor (using a network or drive duplicator, NOT diskettes!) for a specific
configuration than to give the poor user DOS and Windows diskettes and say
"here you go". Phone calls are guaranteed when using diskettes.

You should see the multi-media PC we put together. I cannot believe that
end users are expected to do their own system surgery. It's hard enough
for us to get it right!

--Tom



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Subject: Re: Need help with Win 3.0 config.sys file
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (sean kelly `94)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:36:07 GMT
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> I have some problems setting up the config.sys on my 386/25 computer.
> The computer has 4 MB RAM and SVGA (Trident 1 MB SVGA card).
> Could someone tell me the proper way of setting EMM386.sys device and
> the smartdrv.sys?
> I have these two device set up as follows,
> DEVICE=C:\HIMEM.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.SYS 1024
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.SYS 1024 512 /A
>
> I have noticed that the /A will put the smartdrive to the expand memory, however is it necessary? Will it do any good to improve the overall of the cache speed?
> I have Wordperfect for Windows and Microsoft EXCEL 3.0 running under the
> window. They are the only two window program I have installed in my hard drive.

Config.sys

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.SYS NOEMS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.SYS 1024 512

If you only run windows applications then there is no need to have EMM386 allocate 1 meg of memory and set it as expanded. Expanded memory is only useful if you have a DOS program that needs it, the NOEMS option uses EMM386s memory management capabilities but tell it you do not want it to 'create' any expanded memory. SMARTDRV.SYS runs much better in exTENded memory than exPANded memory also. Expanded memory is much slower. REmoving the /A option from that line will do it. The DOS=HIGH,UMB will load m





ost of the DOS kernel above 640K in case you want more room for DOS programs (there is no down side to this command) and the UMB command has DOS take control of the 64K or so of upper memory to load other device drivers with the DEVICEHIGH= command, which frees up more lower memory. I don't know what may be causing your UAE's however.

-if C was a joke then C++ is a comedy

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Subject: Deskjet Plus & Deskjet driver on Cica
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (The Punisher)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 17:29:33 GMT
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I just grabbed the two parts to the deskjet drivers
on Cica and I am wondering whether it is going
to work any wonders for a DeskJet PLUS. Is it? Or
is it purely for the 500 series? I remember a while back
someone saying a new HP driver wouild support
all members of the DeskJet family.

PS : Just what is this driver going to do for me that
the DeskJet family driver with Win 3.0 won't do???

Many thanks
Pete


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Subject: FTP clipart for W4W 2.0 and IBM Hollywood
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (The Punisher)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:39:51 GMT
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Does anyone know of a good FTP site with
clipart for W4W 1.1a and IBM Hollywood?? I am
specifically desperate for the W4W stuff, since
Hollywood will convert just about anything.

They way I see it, the only reason I would even
COSIDER upgrading to 2.0 would be all the neat clipart
and the ability to make clipart. But the
sobering $129 upgrade price and the HUGE, RIDICULOUS
amount of HD space that this thing takes up quickly
brings me back to reality. I have even turned down
pirated copies of the thing because it likes to suck
up so much HD space!

Thanks
Pete

PS- I know about wuarchive, cica, and oakland.
Do they have the stuff I want? Any
not so common ftp sites? (Please, I know
the finland ones too, but my school gets
mighty pissed when I sky the load by FTPing
over there!)

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Subject: Re: 3.1 available now?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (sean kelly `94)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:47:28 GMT
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Microsoft is releasing an add-on to Windows 3.1 early this summer that makes it a "32 bit" operating system. It doesn't include all of the features of WindowsNT but promises to be very good and a damn surprise for those people at IBM (Product was mentioned in this month's issue of Windows Magazine).

-If C was a joke then C++ is a comedy

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
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You can also switch between the DOS partition and the OS/2 partition without rebooting by using a command-line utility that comes with OS/2, what it does is rewrite the FAT for the new OS. Aside- Windows 3.1 can now run graphical DOS apps (up to 256 colors) in a window.

-If C was a joke then C++ is a comedy.

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Aaron Wallace)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 18:02:32 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tom Blackman) writes:
>[I wrote...]
>>I imagine a lot of time is wasted getting DOS machines to work. In
>>fact, I know this is the case. I also know that a large amount of
>>time is spent here getting the Macs here to work. No, the Mac,
>>despite what Apple would have use believe, is not "intuitive" or
>>perfect.
>
>Oh,really, then why can a person who recently thought that the fountain pen
>was the most technically advanced piece of hardware suddenly set up and use
>a Macinstosh just like an old pro?

Clearly there will be some people who understand the Mac right off. There
are also a lot of people who, even after using it for months and years,
still struggle.

And there are also new computer users who have commented to me that
they couldn't understand why people say DOS is so hard to use, and had
no problem getting their systems running.

My experience has been that if the user-to-be believes that the
computer will be easy to use, then the user will have no problem using
whatever platform s/he chooses. But if the user believes that
computers are hard to use, impossible to understand, etc., then the
initial hurdles will be hard to overcome for any platform. It's
interesting that in all this discussion about computers (which is
easier to use, etc.), users are treated as generic, interchangable
units--usually in the form of generalizations that because Joe likes
to fiddle with his PC's hardware, all users are fiddlers, or because
Jack finds YYY simple and productive, then YYY is clearly the superior
interface.

I work as a support person for three platforms (Mac, DOS, UNIX), and the
variance between users is far greater than any platform differences. With
few exceptions, a user who is comfortable with any one of these can be
brought up to speed on the others rather easily. The only qualification
of this would be that each platform has a lot of trivial, "common" knowledge
(things like how to rebuild the desktop of a Mac disk, or why you can't
create a file called FOO.CON) that have to be pretty much looked up or
memorized.

Ever wonder why there are cars with stick shifts and automatics?
Coupes and sedans, and station wagons, and sports cars, and
micro-econocars? Or why, over a decade later, there still is no real
standard computer platform?

Consider: The second largest computer platform (in terms of installed
base) is the easiest to use, most user-friendly and crash-resistant
platform, has tons of fun-to-use software (all of which must be given
an OK by the platform's maker), and can be used by almost anyone--all
despite the fact that it's braindead, backward, and has limited
hardware.

Aaron Wallace

(Oh, it's Nintendo, not Mac, btw...)

















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Subject: RE: Windows vs MS Mouse on COM1:
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 20 Mar 92 18:47:25 GMT
Organization: IFAST - EDWARDS Air Force Base
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To use a Microsoft serial mouse with Windows, you should be using version
8.1 of the mouse driver. I had alot of problems trying to get version
7.04 and version 8.0 to work with a serial mouse. Upgrading to version
8.1 fixed them all. Microsoft will upgrade your driver for about $25.00
for older versions and for shipping charges for version 8.0 (this info
is from memory so might be wrong). There was a blerb in PC Week or
PC Mag or Byte in February I think. Hope that helps.

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 IS shipping!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Aaron Bregel) writes...
>Last night (3/4/92), the news here in Seattle had a photo op for Win 3.1
>
>They showed a palete full of copies of Win 3.1 being loaded into a Fedral
>Express plane at the Sea-Tac International Airport.

Wow, it took 15 days for this article to get here?

Anyway, even though Windows 3.1 is a Fed Ex, they apparently have
instructions not to ship until the April release date. Microsoft is just
getting ready (and some photo ops).

PauL M SchwartZ | Follow men's eyes as they look to the skys
Future site of .sig virus | the shifting shafts of shining
v206g[email protected] | weave the fabric of their dreams.
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Subject: Re: 3.1 available now?
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From: [email protected] (Douglas A. Bell)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 19:15:06 GMT
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In a previous article, [email protected] (sean kelly `94) says:

>Microsoft is releasing an add-on to Windows 3.1 early this summer that makes it a "32 bit" operating system. It doesn't include all of the features of WindowsNT but promises to be very good and a damn surprise for those people at IBM (Product was mention
>ed in this month's issue of Windows Magazine).


MicroSoft is adding an extension to windows which will allow it to translate
the Win32s API into the windows 3.0 API.

This kludge should cause enough of a performance hit to negate most of
the benifit that writing code in 32 bit would give in the first place.

But it will allow developers to start working with the win32s API,
since microsoft is still some months away of producing a beta copy
of an operating system which actually uses the API.

Douglas Bell-
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Windows 3.1 -- A $50 bug fix that is over a year late.
Buy OS/2 instead of Windows.

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Subject: Re: Help compiler ?! - MS move into the 1990s !
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>I aggree, it is is pain, even on my 386, it takes about 15 min to compile a
>fairly small help file (23k). I can't imagine how bad it would be with the
>TC++ help file (4meg!!!!)
While I agree that hc is a little backward - your numbers don't make
alot of sense. I have an IBM System/II Model 55/SX - 16. This is about
the slowest 386 you can buy (I didn't - work did).

1 minute, 47.16 seconds, 22548 bytes in the help file, 24943 is the size
of the rtf, about 20 topics and 50 keywords. Compression was not turned
on. This was run in a DOS box while running windows in 386 enh mode.

15 minutes seems awfully long.

I do wonder what MS (and Borland) does to create those huge files. It
would seem as if they must be using something else capable of doing
incremental compiles or something. I've also seen the help text act in
such away that I can't create with MSWord 2.0. Anyone notice how
source code lines don't wrap the way text does? How is this done?

Mike

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Subject: Re: 486/33 -- cannot install Windows 3.0
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From: [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 19:36:42 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Mellin Jorma) writes:
/>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bellave S. Jayaram) writes:
/>
/>>Hi folks,
/>
/>> I recently ordered a 486/33 system from Santron Computer
/>>with the following config:
/>
/>>4MB Main memory
/>>OPTI chipset
/>>256k external cache
/>
/>> I then started installing Windows and I got all the way until
/>>Disk #4. It finished reading the disk and there was a message that
/>>said something like Begin Program Manager Groups - and then in a flash,
/>>the screen went blank. I tried it several times and the same thing
/>>happened. I called the support hotline and the guy suggested that
/>>I try changing some of the BIOS setup parameters. I am not sure if
/>>the guy understood my problem or not.

I had a similar experience with a computer I set Windows up on. I didn't
recognize that one of the programs in the autoexec.bat was a screen
saver. When I installed Windows, everything went fine for the first 5
minutes after the "Windows" part was loaded until the screensaver kicked
in. This froze the computer up and the only way to get out was to reboot
(ctrl-alt-del) won't even work in this case. Sounds to me you may be
having similar problems.

WARNING --- if you are using Windows, make sure that your DOS screen
saver is disabled before you start Windows unless you are certain
that it is compatible with Windows (most aren't).

Use the new built in screensaver of Windows 3.1. Its neater and it
has to work since its part of Windows.


--
Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
Bethesda MD 20892

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Subject: Re: Toolbook special interest groups
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From: [email protected] (Mike Stangel)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 19:37:55 GMT
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Uh, I'm not sure what you're saying, but I've had a bit
of experience with ToolBook. But, everytime I post about
it here, I get nary a response. Go figure.

Mike Stangel

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Subject: Re: DeskJet driver on Cica
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Taylor) writes:
>The HP DeskJet Series v2.1 driver for the DeskJet 500C and the DeskJet 500
>is now available through cica/ftp in the following directory:
>
>pub/pc/win3/drivers/printer
>
>It is in two files:
>
>djetdsk1.zip
>&
>djetdsk2.zip
>
>You need to pull down both files and unzip them. The files from
>djetdsk1.zip then should be copied to one disk and the file from
>djetdsk2.zip should be copied onto another. Installation
>instructions are in a readme on disk1.
>
>Bob Taylor
>HP Vancouver

Bob,
How might these be better for me, if I got my Deskjet500 back
in August?
--Gerry
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
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From: [email protected] (Dan Tarnower)
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In <[email protected]> (Bradley Wong) writes:

> Me, I'll spend $60
> for Fontmonger and turn $1000 of Adobe type into True Type fonts 8-).


What!! you only intend to convert 2 Adobe fonts??? :}

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Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra conflicts with COM4
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Here's an interesting lesson-learned on installing the Ultra. If you
have a COM port set to COM4, it will prevent the card from working
as anything other than a text mode card. The INSTALL program will
fail to recognize the card, and will display a cryptic diagnostic
at every boot. One of the character sequences in that dignostic corresponds
to a small note toward the back of Gateway 2000's installation guide
which implies that COM4 should be disabled.

It took me four hours to figure this out, mainly because that diagnostic
display does not actually come out and say that an ERROR has been
detected. It just spews a couple of lines of hex code, and a schematic
of the card.

So if you have a modem on COM2, and have therfore reassigned your com
card's second port to COM4, kill that second port before trying install
an Ultra.

The Ultra is fast. Unfortunately, the crystal font driver causes SuperPrint's
font driver to crash Windows, displaying a blank UAE box. We'll see if that
gets resolved.

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Subject: QEMM Stealth vs. CAS fax standard
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After some not very helpful support from Quarterdeck, and a lot of
trial and error, I have established that, at least on my MicroLab
486/33 ISA mo-board, QEMM's stealth feature and the CAS fax standard
conflict under windows. The only way to de-conflict them is to include the
STX=F000 comment on the QEMM line in CONFIG. Otherwise, the machine crashes
at any use of the CAS driver in windows.

Also interesting is that the Quarterdeck people refused on comment
on whether the current release of QEMM will work with Win 3.1. They
said they would have to wait until the release of 3.1.

Is that because they can't violate their beta testing agreement with
MS? Because MS wouldn't give them beta versions (a la Digital Research)?
Because they don't trust MS not to make a last-minute destructive change?

It would seem that it is very much in the interest of both companies to
cooperate on 3.1 compatibility, as they did at the time of the 3.0 release.
Or is MS planning to release a competitor to QEMM?

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Subject: Re: compiling Petzold sources with BC++2
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From: [email protected] (Isaac Rabinovitch)
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In <[email protected]> Tim Hunter writes:

>In article ,
>c89206[email protected] (TRISTAN ANDREW KENNEDY BATES) says:
>>
>>[email protected] (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:
>>
>>>Hi folks,
>>>I'm trying to compile sources from Petzold's book using BC++ 2.0. They
>>>compile fine, but when I try to run them Windows complains that the programs
>>>where compiled for a previous version of windows. It then proceeds to run
>>>them OK. Borlands own whello.cpp compiles and runs fine.
>>>So, what am I doing wrong?
>>
>In the first case (Windows complains that the program is not a Windows 3.0
>program, you need to run the resource compiler on the linked .exe.
Hmm. Running the resource compiler might "mark" a 2.0 app as a 3.0
one, but it's hardly a necessary part of making a 3.0 program. Not
all programs have resources!

The problem is that Borland has set up the linker so that it produces
a 2.0 file by default. This is not a big deal, since nobody ever uses
the linker defaults. If you're trying to compile examples written for
MS C (such as Petzold's), the examples will always include a DEF file
that will fix the problem. If you're using the Borland IDE, just add
the DEF file name to your Project File.

Incidentally, if you have the Borland Resource Workshop, you never
really need the resource compiler: just tell the Workshop to save
both to RC and RES files (there's an option to do this automatically).
However, if only have RC files, it's easier to run the resource
compiler on them (rc -r whatever.rc) then to use the Workshop just to
do the compile. Pity the IDE doesn't know how to compile RC files
(though it otherwise handles them correctly if you add them to your
project file), but again, it's no big deal: you'll probably only need
this when you're compiling book examples.
--

[email protected] Isaac Rabinovitch
{apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergoSilicon Valley, CA


Nothing's wrong with the polls. Maybe we should fire the
electorate!
--Daniel Schorr

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Chris E Donnell)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 20:21:17 GMT
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I think it basically comes down to those people who buy and learn how to use
IBM and clone type systems are more intelligent than those who use the MACs.
Just kidding.

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Subject: Re: One supporter of Microsoft
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From: [email protected] (Christy Logan)
Date: 20 Mar 1992 12:22:50 -0800
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>
>I know that this isn't a particularly popular position to take (especially
>on the OS/2 group), but I have been very impressed by Microsoft and their
>customer support. In the past few weeks, I have had to call them for a
>couple of things and received prompt, courteous responses. When I ordered
>the WinWord 2.0a upgrade and, later, the WordBasic macrolanguage book, I
>received both via Federal Express 2 day mail and both cost me nothing.
>
>Kudos to Microsoft.

Well, it seems to me that if they hadn't released such a flawed product
as WfW2.0 in the first place they wouldn't have been compelled to
send out a free 2.0a upgrade. I hardly think we should congratulate
them for finally getting around to doing what they should have done
in the first place. Do they not listen to their beta-testers? Or
are their beta-testers brain-dead? (I tend to favor the former
explanation and chalk the premature release up to a marketing
decision). I would also argue that they didn't handle the upgrade
all that well either; instead of sending it out automatically
to all registered users (a la PCTools) they required that you
call and request the upgrade. As for their customer service,
I've found them to be by and large clueless or unpleasant (for
example, they didn't know there was such a thing as a 2.0a upgrade
even after people had posted here saying that they'd ordered it),
and tech support has been either unhelpful (it's not a bug--it's
by design) or downright rude (do you think you're the only
person in the world with that problem?)
The FedEx 2nd day air was impressive, but I'd prefer to be able
to walk into a store and buy a quality product in the first place
instead of being forced to be grateful to MicroSoft for finally
fixing their errors.



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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
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From: [email protected] (John Price)
Date: 20 Mar 92 20:34:41 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Aaron Wallace) writes:
>Trying to turn this into a constructive flame war, I'd be interested
>in what *fundamental* changes people think should/could be made to
>computers to make them more accessible to the general population, much
>as toasters and TVs are.

>Off the top of my head:
>o Completely flatten the memory hierarchy. Many new users don't get the
>difference between hard disk memory and RAM, much less virtual memory,
>caches, and such. It seems very primitive to have to "load" something
>from one "memory" to another (within the same computer!), then "save"
>it when you're done (because some memories are forgetful, while others
>are permanent).

How else would you implement the ability to *not* save changes? At times,
I have edited a file until it was no longer recognizable, at which point
the best plan was to give up and start again with the original file.

>o Eliminate the application/file "metaphor". The problem with both
>the Mac and Windows is that they're application-centric, not
>document-centric. The focus is on the tool, not the product. New Wave
>and OLE go a bit toward fixing this, but there's a long way to go.

Here, you would have users saving their "documents" to floppy at work, then
taking them home, and trying to figure out why they don't work on their
personal mac. You gotta have the tools. I don't see a way around this
either.

>o *Much* better fault tolerance.

Here I can't argue, but then, who'd want to? 🙂

>o Eliminate file locality. How much time is wasted copying things to
>and from floppies, servers, archives over modem, LapLink or whatever.

I don't know if this can be implemented easily. It would involve
connecting *all* computers together on a network - not just those within an
office, but those owned by the employees (so they can work at home), all
computers used by people who deal with that office (gotta have that Email
connection), all *their* employees' PCs, etc. All without using phone
lines - we want some speed, here.

I think your bank analogy breaks down, because of the sheer number of PCs
we're talking about here. This is a task on the scale of creating a new
telephone network; I don't know if the benefits outweigh the costs.

John Price * * * * [email protected]
Where there is no solution, there is no problem.

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Subject: windows 3.1
Message-ID: <1992Mar20.1187.20500@dosgate>
From: "roger ramsey"
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DE> I don't believe anyone said Windows wouldn't run on it. In fact, Win
DE>does run on it - that's the whole point.

3.0 does. 3.1 won't.

DE>Given:
DE>
DE> Hardware Platform
DE> Dos S/W
DE> Windows
DE> Applications
DE>
DE>if Win 3.1 is truly upward compatible, replacing Windows 3.0 with Win
DE>in above configuration would allow the user to see no change.

...unless of course the underlying OS doesn't live up to its own
compatibility claims, which is what I'm discussing here.

Roj



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Subject: ole apps
Message-ID: <1992Mar20.1187.20502@dosgate>
From: "roger ramsey"
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Hi everyone:

Can you folks supply me with a list of any currently shipping or pending
OLE-aware products that you know of? I'd appreciate answers in any and
all categories from E-Mail to Database.

Thanks in advance,

Roj

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Subject: os/2 vs. windowsis
Message-ID: <1992Mar20.1187.20501@dosgate>
From: "roger ramsey"
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KC>You can run multiple DOS sessions in standard mode. You just cannot m

Quite so. Since I run Windows to multitask, to me there is not point in
running Standard Mode if the few DOS tasks I run (dBASE, Agenda and a CLI)
can't be run under it.

Roj



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Subject: Re: Statistics/Graphing for Windows 3
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We just ordered Stanford Graphics, which is a presentation and
analysis program for Windows. It *sounds* very good on paper,
but I'll reserve judgement until I've actually tried it. It's
sold by 3-D Visions for $495 ($371.25 with their academic
discount). Their number is (800)729-4723. Dustin Discount
Software also sells the program for $359 (this is not an
academic discount price, I don't think).
You might also look at Cricket Graph.
Please do post a summary. I'd be very interested to hear
about any Windows stats packages. I'll try to post my
impressions of SG once I've had some time to play with it.
Christy Logan
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: STacker 2.0 and Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Yeow Meng Thum)
Date: 20 Mar 92 18:39:48 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (News System)
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I am generally happy with my Stacked drive except that it now takes WP 5.1
at least 2 MINUTES TO LOAD from DOS 5.0. From Windows 3.0, WP 5.1 loads
normally. STAC tech support returns my inquiry in about a week, cannot locate
the problem, but sent me some useful stuff anyway. If you have a similar
experience, I will be happy (not happy really) to learn more about it.

Y. M. Thum

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Subject: Re: Netware lite and Windows 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Peter Walsh)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 19:17:00 GMT
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/ col:comp.windows.ms / [email protected] / 2:23 pm Mar 17, 1992 /

USERS OF NOVELL NETWARE LITE AND WINDOWS:

Which driver should I use to install Windows with NEtwork options on a Netware
client...?

Please Help

Tej


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After Netware Lite is installed, their is a readme.txt file
in the X:\nwlite\tutuor directory..... read it.

Pete

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Subject: Re: Deskjet Plus & Deskjet driver on Cica
Message-ID: <+c#j9=#[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Date: 20 Mar 92 20:07:01 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (The Punisher) writes:


>PS : Just what is this driver going to do for me that
>the DeskJet family driver with Win 3.0 won't do???

I forget all the details, but I think this is the version that
supports HPs scaleable fonts, and fixes some mistakes in earlier
versions. What HP calls the "500" driver is really just the latest
version of the driver for the whole monochrome DJ family. Read the
README file for details. And be sure to go into the Printer Setup
thing in Control Panel, and thumb through the SETUP windows until you
find the "Printer:" drop-list box: this lets you specify whether you
have a DJ, DJ+ or DJ500.
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{apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergoSilicon Valley, CA

Nothing's wrong with the polls. Maybe we should fire the
electorate!
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Subject: Re: COLD BOOT FROM DOS WINDOW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Zwi)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 21:33:49 GMT
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Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (brian daniels) writes:
>
>--Notes about a small Debug program to force a cold boot deleted--
>
>Just a cautionary note: I can think of several situations where
>triggering a cold boot inside of Windows could be a Bad Thing.
>There is a chance that windows will be busy acessing the HD at
>the time you set it off....and that could get ugly....
>
>Later,
>Brian
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Also, make sure to TURN ANY DISK CACHE OFF before issuing a reboot from the
command line (regerdless of if you're doing it under Windows or not). Very
Bad Things can occour if the reboot instruction is executed before or while
the cache is writing to the HD. It happened to me...

H.Zwi
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Subject: Pagemaker 4.0 and Word for Windows 2.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ron Cohen)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 22:54:59 GMT
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I just got Aldus Pagemaker 4.0 and the manual doesn't mention Word for Windows
2.0. Is there a more recent version of Pagemaker? Should I return this one?
Thanks,
Ron Cohen
Geophysical Laboratory



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Subject: Re: Stealth?..Good board, but it doesn't work!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Lane Kagey)
Date: 19 Mar 92 07:44:36 GMT
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in article <1992Mar14.030240.78[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terry Henning) says:

> I just bought a Diamond Stealth 1 Meg w/ Hi-color, and I've had nothing
> but problems with it so far. ...

I'm using this same board in an AST Premium 486/33 and have had great results
with both switches 3 and 4 on. I did switch the monitor selection switches to
NEC Multisync 4D/5D (I believe that was the setting). I am using it in
conjunction with Windows 3.0 and IIM X11/AT product. The performance has been
reasonably good at least on a subjective level.

lane
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Subject: Bitmaps for Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Shiu Kau Wong)
Date: 20 Mar 92 19:50:35 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (The News)
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
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Hi all,

I would like to create bitmap images for mswindows. I have
a few bitmaps which can be displayed under x-window by
using the 'xsetroot' program. Is there a way that I can
convert those bitmaps to a mswindows format? For some
reason those bitmaps are written in C, but mswindows won't
recognize them.

I really appreciate any help.

email : [email protected]
[email protected]

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Subject: You can order Upgrade to Excel 4.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ashwath Ram)
Date: 20 Mar 92 23:25:03 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Ashwath Ram)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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I called up Microsoft and they are now taking order for Excel 4.0. The
upgrade cost 111.45 including shipping and handling and will ship in
one month. Some of the enhanced features are an icon bar like Word
for Windows 2.0, also similar cut and paste ie. drag and drop features,
an Ami Pro type movable icon block. Fill format something which enables
formating like the fill down feature. A few more statistical functions,
better translation of 123 Macros. And something called the Graphing
Wizard which is supposed to make graphs even simpler to make. That's all
I could get from the sales rep. Anyone have more info. on this. ?

Thanks in advance,

Ashwath Ram

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Subject: Re: Windows & VGA IRQ 2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bill Coleman)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:20:14 GMT
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In article <1992Ma[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
>
> Can you make an application on Appleshare load any faster. Although
> my 10Mbit ethernet card wasn't free, Excel loads a heck of a lot faster
> from my PC server than it does on my MAC from its server. (5 Seconds
> vs 1 Minute).

Steve,

Are you running that Mac over Ethernet, too? If not, why don't you
try booting Excel over a 45 baud 5-level Murray code link? Sheesh.

You can run Macs on the Ethernet. I won't guarantee 5 second loading,
it should at least come close.

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Subject: using 16550A w/windows (request for repost)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Richard Reiner)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 17:01:32 GMT
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Organization: York University
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There were two threads here in the last few months, "Using 16550 with
windows" and "windows driver for 16550". I didn't need to know at the
time and didn't read them. Now I need to know, and the articles have
expired.

I can't find an archive of this group anywhere, so could some kind
soul please tell me:

- does the Win 3.0 comm driver support the 16550A's FIFO?
- what about Win 3.1?
- if not, is there a third-party comm driver that does?
- does Win 3.x in 386Enh mode allow DOS programs to use the FIFO?

Thanks very much,

Richard

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Subject: Re: Help compiler ?! - MS move into the 1990s !
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Steve Balogh (+61 3 565 4747))
Date: 20 Mar 92 03:47:08 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Douglas A. Lane) writes:
>
>If you can, remember back to when there were no IDEs. When a programmer
>had to use a tool similar to DEBUG to debug our programs. Well at this
>time of Windows - why does Microsoft require use to WASTE our time with
>Rich Text Files and a Help Compiler to create our help files ??!!
>
>I would like to see the following in such a beast:
>
[nice feature list deleted]
>
>Comments, suggestions ?? What is the best way to approach
>Microsoft ??

I don't know if MS have anything pending, and if so, there would surely be
much interest.

In the meanwhile, this seems like an EXCELLENT project for someone with a few
weeks spare time. 🙂

Steve

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Subject: HELP WITH CONFIG.SYS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Craig Brooker)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 19:07:35 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.
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I need help with my config.sys. Whatever I do, I can't get windows to
run
in 386 Enhanced mode. Here's my setup:

386/25
1 meg video
2 meg ram

I'm using Stacker 2.0 and QEMM 6.0 as well. I would appreciate either
e-mail to me or posting of config files with the same setup.

Thanx in advance,
Craig Brooker
[email protected]
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Subject: Re: Problem with Win 3.1 standard mode and int's
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Carlson Peters x7898)
Date: 20 Mar 92 21:13:11 GMT
References:
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>After updating Win 3.0 to Win 3.1 we got problems with our application
>and Win 3.1 standard mode. The reason is that our IRQ2 redirection to
>our own protected mode application does not work any more. It worked
>fine with Win 3.0 in standard and enhanced mode. With Win 3.1 it still
>works fine in enhanced mode, but no longer at all in standard mode.

>Here's our code based to DPMI for this application:


Code deleted.....


>movax, 0200h
>movbx, IRQ2
>int31h
>jnch_1
>movax, 10; no ... set error code
>jmph_0
>h_1:mov[_Old71Seg], cx
>mov[_Old71Off], dx

more code deleted

>movdi, OFFSET _Call71Structure
>movax, 303h
>int31h; call DPMI
>popds

even more code deleted

>
>So, that's it... and I said it before: No trouble at all with Win 3.0
>but with Win 3.1 it does not work at all (standard mode).

Yep, that's it!

> Jorge

Oh come on, the answer is so easy it just doesn't deserve a response.
We all know assembly inside and out and all of us have been beta testing
3.1 for months now. Go away and start reading comp.sys.babytalk.







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Subject: Re: Windows, an OS? (WARNING: NO OS/2 CONTENT)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Samuel A. Figueroa)
Date: 21 Mar 92 00:38:09 GMT
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Sorry, I couldn't resist responding. Please note that I will NOT further
respond to any mail or postings related to this subject.

In a previous message, William Flusek ([email protected]) writes:
>I also just got a pre-release copy of Windows 3.1 today. Microsoft must
>think that it is an operating system because the package says:
>
>Microsoft Windows
>Operating System
>Version 3.1.
>
>For those of use who were MS-informed about what is and is not and OS 😉

A recent (perhaps the latest) issue of some magazine whose title begins,
I believe, with the word "Windows" publishes an interview Mr. Bill Gates.
They ask him whether Windows NT is an operating system. The first word
of his answer is "No" (his answer makes it clear that he is saying that
Windows NT is NOT an operating system).
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Subject: PrtScrn from WIN 3.0 and DOS 5.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Gregory M Ellis)
Date: 21 Mar 92 00:56:42 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University
Summary: Problems doing a PrtScrn from a non-windos app (KERMIT) under DOS 5.0
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Mar21.005642.15495
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I have 3 386 clone systems configured identically except that one system has
DOS 4.01 and the others have DOS 5.0. All three are running WINDOWS 3.0,
and access KERMIT from WINDOWS. They are not using a .pif for KERMIT. On
all three systems, I can do a PrtScrn/Ctrl-PrtScrn from DOS without a
problem. With WINDOWS running, however, I can only PrtScrn/Ctrl-PrtScrn on
the system running DOS 4.01. On the two other systems, hitting the PrtScrn
/Ctrl-PrtScrn keys causes momentary hard disk activity but no printing.

I've played with the Print Manager on/off switch without any change in
results. Suggestions/solutions?????????

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Subject: Advice needed on Stacker - hardware or software
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
Date: 21 Mar 92 01:16:47 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
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I have a Gateway 2000 386/33 with a 130 meg HD. I am almost out of
disk-space (around 5 megs left) and have been trying to scrounge up
money for a second IDE drive that I can configure as slave.

Well, the bottom-line is that I can't afford it, and have finally
decided that I need to look into some kind of "disk-compression"
utility such as Stacker or InfoPlus Expanz.

With regards to Stacker, I was wondering whether there was a significant
speed advantage to using the hardware (AT) version, versus the software
only version.

It is not my intention to spark a net-war between supporters and
detractors of Stacker. If you have used Stacker with the following
configuration, I would be be very interested in hearing from you.....

386/33
NO math-coprocessor
IDE hard-drive, preferably a Western Digital
DOS 5.0
Windows 3.x
Running Stacker Software or Hardware (AT version)

I am also interested in hearing about any incompatibilities between
Stacker and any software that you run.

Regards,

Ashok
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Subject: Re: really BIZARRE experience with windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Steve Poulsen)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:26:48 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (USENET News Poster)
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In article , [email protected] (Mike Anderson) writes:
|> I eventually got the application turned off, and
|> the high pitched noise stopped. Does anybody have a clue? I don't!

Mike,

Procomm Plus has a sound option that produces audio "special effects" on your
PC speaker. This option makes interesting sounds when you open or close
windows and perform other actions. I imagine Procomm produces the sounds by
rapidly changing the tone frequency of the PC speaker.

In your loaded environment, Procomm may have been swapped out after each change
to the tone frequency. Instead of a short "chirp" sound, you heard the
components of the "chirp" spread out over several seconds or minutes.

You can disable these sound effects somewhere deep inside the Setup menus.

-Steve-

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Subject: Re: compiling Petzold sources with BC++2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Jay Tanlimco)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 00:16:49 GMT
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In article c8920668@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (TRISTAN ANDREW KENNEDY BATES) writes:
>[email protected] (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:
>
>>Hi folks,
>>I'm trying to compile sources from Petzold's book using BC++ 2.0. They
>>compile fine, but when I try to run them Windows complains that the programs
>>where compiled for a previous version of windows. It then proceeds to run
>>them OK. Borlands own whello.cpp compiles and runs fine.
>>So, what am I doing wrong?
>>Thanks,
>>Zeyd

Are you using the IDE? I also had this problem, but compiling from command
line gets rid of it.


>
>I've just started doing the same with Petzolds examples but they all
>seem to work fine in your respect (I don't get any messages complaining about
>which windows version they were compiled for. I'm using a '386 33Mhz in
>enhanced mode and BC++2.0). What did worry me though was when I tried the
>HelloWin program, it all compiled and linked perfectly BUT when it started up,
>the text did not appear until I resized the window even though windows was sent
>an UpdateWindow message. Wierd. But worse still, apart from that problem, I

This is a known bug.


>tried my usual program integrity check (do everything you can as fast as you
>can) and I manage to get an unrecoverable application error! And this is
>supposed to be one of the simplest windows programs that you can write! This
>worries me greatly because the code is definitely EXACTLY the same as in
>Petzold. BC++2.0's whello.cpp has none of this problem though. It works just
>fine. Any ideas? (Maybe because BC++'s version uses C++ classes instead of
>Petzolds plain C).
>
>Tristan Bates
>[email protected]
>University of Newcastle
>NSW, Australia
>
>

There is a list of BC++2.0 bugs available somewhere that list the
peculiarities with regards to windows programming. I'm sorry but
I can't seem to find it anywhere in my archive. You guys should
start reading comp.windows.ms.programmer and ask there.
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Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra, NDW and Windows 3.x
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Todd Lutz)
Date: 20 Mar 92 20:19:43 GMT
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I am running NDW with an ATI Graphics Ultra just fine on an HP Vectra 486/33T.

-- Todd Lutz
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 drivers in Windows 3.1 ?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Perry Reed)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:24:14 GMT
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>/ hpcc01:comp.windows.ms / / 4:48 pm Mar 19, 1992 /
>OK, amid great fanfare and multicolored brochures Microsoft has
>finally offered the *NEW* Windows 3.1. However, no where in
>this booklet does MS say how much hard disk space Win 3.1 is
>going to take. Anyone care to give me an accurate guess?
----------

I've heard that it will take about 10Mb, but it comes with a feature for
deleting "optional" parts (ie. Solitaire, etc.).


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Subject: Win 3.1 Ordered
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Perry Reed)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:25:56 GMT
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I called Microsoft and ordered Win 3.1.

I was told that it would arrive via Fed-Ex on April 6, which is the
release date that I had heard earlier....


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Subject: Re: where do I find VGA driver for Paradise VGA PRO
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Sherri Lee)
Date: 12 Mar 92 08:19:37 GMT
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BB> I have a Paradise VGA professional that was purchased before
BB> Windows 3.0 came out. I would like to be able to use windows
BB> in the 640x480 256 color mode. Right now, it is only supported
BB> in 16 color mode with the generic VGA definition. Where would
BB> I find updated drivers?

I hate to be a pessimist, but I have the same card, and despite what you
and I thought when we bought it, the hardware was not advanced enough
to run 256 colors under Windows. There have been messages to that
effect on the BBS's from people who sounded like they knew whereof they
speak.

That, I suppose, is one of the reasons the Paradise 1024 came out so
fast on the heels of the Professional. Since they were taken over
by Western Digital, there has been no action on their bulletin board
on drivers for the Professional. The latest drivers (Circa 1991)
available on the BBS's, for Paradise cards provide several choices for
res and colors, but they don't work with the Professional.

I have decided to be grateful that the Professional has been so reliable
in 640x480 by 16, and to wait for the recession to be over so I can
take out a second mortgage for an ATI Graphics Ultra and a new 17 inch
multisync monitor. But there are some nice alternative boards from folks
like Diamond Speedstar and Trident, having good Windows drivers, and
priced less than $300. Sometimes much less.





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Subject: Understanding Windows Fonts
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 05:40:22 GMT
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Can someone please explain the organization and implementation
of fonts in Windows.

Why do some programs (Corel Draw and Excel for example)
seem to come with their own fonts, and other programs
like MathCAD do not? How does a program that contains its own
fonts know what printer it is writing to when that printer is
only defined during the Windows setup?

Where do the fonts come from in the control panel Fonts icon?

What does it mean that Windows 3.1 has truetype fonts, and what
benefit will I see from this when running programs like
Corel Draw, Excel, and MathCAD? For that matter, of what
benefit is the Adobe Type manager?

Jon Hacker

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Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
[email protected]

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Subject: Running WP4WIN on 386/16 with 1MB RAM?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 04:39:00 GMT
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Is there ANY way to run WordPerfect for Windows on a 386/16mhz with
only 1Mb Ram? It runs fine in 8Mb Ram on my desktop, but I would like
to put it on my laptop. ANY information at all would really be
appreciated. I am at a loss.....

Thanks VERY much in advance
Peter


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Subject: C, C++ Graphics Library for windows needed
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Walter Cedeno)
Date: 21 Mar 92 05:58:55 GMT
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I am looking for C or C++ graphics library for windows.
Please send any information to [email protected].

Thank you in advance,
Walter Cedeno
[email protected]




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Subject: Net mail beta testers needed
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From:
Date: Wednesday, 18 Mar 1992 10:31:03 EST
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I am working on a Novell netware Windows E-Mail program and need some beta
testers. This program is Pegasus mail compatible. This version does not
support Internet mail yet, but it will be using Charon in the future.

If you would like to be a beta tester send me a note saying why you would be
a good test site.

PAUL COWAN [email protected]

SUPPORT SPECIALIST - CSC
RYERSON POLYTECHNICAL INSTITUTE
TORONTO, ON
CANADA

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Subject: Re: X-Windows in Windows?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ken Lange)
Date: 20 Mar 92 17:34:07 GMT
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Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
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Spectragraphics (PC Xview) has a demo disk of their program available. They
also have an 800 number -> 800-800-9599.

Integrated Inference Machines (X11/AT) also has a demo available for $25. It
is a little slicker than the Xview demo (in my opinion). 310-568-3376

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Subject: Printer built-in fonts in ATM ?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Brian Lo)
Date: 20 Mar 92 20:50:35 GMT
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I am running Word for Windows and was using Roman 10 points font.
The characters look fine on the screen, but when I printed the
document to a FILE, I notice the size of the file is huge. It
consumed 510 K for a one page document. I am using a TI 2115
Postscript printer. When I send the file to the printer, I did
get a nice output, but it took forever to print.

To compare, I edited another document using Tms Roman 10 points
font, and the size of the output file was 15 K or so. It also
printe much faster.

My system is installed with ATM 1.x, and I wonder if ATM is
sending Postscript graphics commands out to literally 'draw'
the document.

I do not want to sit all day to wait for a document. Does any
of you folks out there if there is a way to tell which fonts
are built-in to the printer, and which ones are created by ATM ?


Many thanks in advance!


Brian Lo [email protected]

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Subject: problem loading windows 3.0 in /3 and /s mode
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Darmawan Ludirdja)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 06:33:24 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (News)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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A friend of mine has problem loading windows in enhanced mode. I tried to
find out what the problem by removing config.sys and autoexec.bat and put
them back one by one. Finally I figured out that when I load himem.sys,
I could not get into windows. The screen is just blank and nothing else
happen. No Windows logo either. The system worked fine a few months ago.

Here is the configuration:

386/33 64K cache, SIS chipset,
AMI BIOS (date after 4/90 -I forgot the exact date-)
4M (4 1Mx9-70) SIMMs
TEAC 1.2M floppy drive
TEAC 1.44M floppy drive
16-bit IDE interface card (no name brand)
Seagate 120M ST1144A
I/O card (2s,p,g)
SVGA card (TSENG ET4000 chipset) (no name brand)
Viewsonic 4 (interlaced)
101-key keyboard
serial mouse

Operating system is MSDOS 5.0. Other info: Smartdrv.sys were loaded (when
himem.sys was loaded).

If I remove himem.sys from the config.sys, Windows works just fine (except
that I couldn't use memory >640K)
I also tried to use only himem.sys and smartdrv.sys in the config.sys
to avoid crash with other applications. Windows still won't work in
enhanced mode /3 or /s). It always work in /r mode.

The himem.sys that I use is the one came with Windows *or* from MSDOS 5.0.

Note: the system worked fine (i.e. win/3 worked fine) a few months ago.

Thanks in advance for help.

Darmawan
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 IS shipping!
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Mike Johnston)
Date: 4 Apr 92 02:00:34 -0500
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<[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 15:58:07 GMT

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Aaron Bregel) writes:


Last night (3/4/92), the news here in Seattle had a photo op for Win 3.1

They showed a palete full of copies of Win 3.1 being loaded into a Fedral
Express plane at the Sea-Tac International Airport.


I haven't seen this much excitement generated since I was a child and
reports of Santa's imminent arrival were broadcast. Also, at the airport
was there a police line to control the thronging mob trying to get
a peek at the palettes? Did the software make any comment before it
departed? Is there any truth to the rumors that Win 3.1 and OS/2 will
be working together? What about the romantic involvement implicated by
certain sources. Finally, when asked if it had ever bounced checks at
the House Bank, what was its reponse?

The world anxiously awaits answers to these and other pressing questions.

😎

MJ



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Michael R. [email protected]
Lehman Brothers (212) 464-3061
"I was a reporter, and this worried me a great deal and I could not understand
how the devil I had gotten myself into such a fix." - Hesse

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Subject: Re: OS/2 VS. WINDOWSIS (and FASTDISK)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 21 Mar 92 00:38:21 GMT
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In article , [email protected] (Keith Curtis) writes:
> the new Windows
> 3.1 virtual device driver that bypasses the bios to write directly to the
> hard drive just like OS/2 2.0 does. As such, there should be little, if
> not any, benifit of OS/2 2.0 over Windows 3.1 in this area.
>
> Just to be fair, though, the fastdisk device driver only works when
> writing memory to the temporary swapfile. Windows does not use fastdisk
> in loading up excel, for example (except as it needs to page out other
> memory to load excel up)

Where have you seen this? All the information I have indicates
otherwise - that fastdisk is a complete replacement for the disk
driver level software for those disk controllers that are compatible
with it (basically standard WD-type disk controllers).

I've looked at a _lot_ of documentation and technical discussions for
3.1 and have yet to find this ... please explain.

Bruce C. Wright

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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Windows comparison
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 21 Mar 92 01:45:16 GMT
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<[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>> ... Of
>>the 23 computers in our lab, only two have the hardware to run OS/2, 18 are
>>currently running Windows. Of these only 3 are easily upgradeable to OS/2
>>in that they have 386 processors. To switch over to running OS/2 would
>>cost our lab more than $40,000. Multiply this by 500 and you will get the
>>cost for switching over the NIH campus.
>>
>
> OS/2 1.3, available for the last 2 years, runs on Windows-capable AT's without
> further upgrades, is better than DOS+Windows in *every* way (except software
> availability, of course), and costs less.

Yeah, right, the only problem is that software availability is one of the
big reasons most non-tech-junkie people buy computers in the first place.
:-).

Actually there are several things that DOS+Windows *does* do better than
OS/2 1.3. One of them is to run DOS apps. You might argue that that's not
a very important thing to do (and considering the quality of many DOS apps
I might be inclined to have quite a bit of sympathy for that view), but
that's not what a lot of people think.

Now, in terms of _technical_potential_, OS/2 1.3 certainly has more than
DOS+Windows. But unless you are a techno-nerd you won't be able to do
much with that - there's too little software available for OS/2 1.3, and
too little of the DOS+Windows software runs on it. (Don't worry, I could
be considered to fit into the "techno-nerd" category too...).

The problem is that if you really want a plausible alternative to DOS+
Windows for a lot of general-purpose computer users, you're talking
about OS/2 2.0, not OS/2 1.3. And that won't run on a fairly good slice
of the existing base (286 and smaller 386's - say 2MB and below). (Please
don't say that you can run OS/2 V2.0 in 2 MB - it's true but irrelevant.
You can run DOS in 64KB too ... but you can't run much of anything else).

OS/2 2.0 is however a *much* more plausible competitor for Windows 3.1
than OS/2 1.3 -- they each have strengths and weaknesses. As a system
design, OS/2 2.0 has more upside potential at a higher cost; but 3.1
promises to have more compatibility with Windows NT which will in turn
have more capability than OS/2 2.0. Meanwhile Win 3.1 answers most of
the problems people were having with Win 3.0. It will be interesting
to see how this all turns out ...

Bruce C. Wright

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 21 Mar 92 01:58:44 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> OK, amid great fanfare and multicolored brochures Microsoft has
> finally offered the *NEW* Windows 3.1. However, no where in
> this booklet does MS say how much hard disk space Win 3.1 is
> going to take. Anyone care to give me an accurate guess?

This isn't an accurate guess, I haven't made much of an effort to
remove non-Windows components from my system. My \windows directory
(on a 486 running enhanced mode Win 3.1) uses up about 9.6 MB, but
some of that is taken up by components from Win 3.0 that I chose to
keep (chess.bmp is no longer shipped with 3.1 :-), or that came from
other sources (screen saver modules, etc). My \windows\system
directory is another 7.5 MB, but well over half of that is taken up
by a rather good-sized font collection (in addition to the TrueType
and bitmapped fonts that ship with Windows). I'd guess that a
typical and complete installation of the product would take around
10-12 MB. But a fair amount is optional, like the Windows tutorial
program and so forth.

Bruce C. Wright

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Subject: Re: Win3.1 with ATM, QVTNET, & Stacker 2.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 21 Mar 92 01:11:31 GMT
References:
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In article , [email protected] (Daniel Jay Enebo) writes:
> Now that win3.1 has been released in Europe, and upgrade announcement shave be
> en sent to registered users, maybe some of you 3.1 beta testers can offer us a
> little insight.

Since Microsoft this week released the beta test sites from the NDA (beta
sites that missed this can verify this on the beta test conference), this
seems like a reasonable request.

> ATM 2.0
> -------
>
> Apparently ATM 2.0 is compatible with 3.1 (although I may never know at the sp
> eed adobe works). Is Truetype faster than ATM2.0? Which has better output?
> Can we use our Type I fonts with True Type?

TrueType is in most cases faster than ATM 2.0. There are some situations
where ATM is faster, but so far as I know only going to Postscript printers.
Even there TrueType often beats it.

As for which has better output, this is one of those "tastes great/less
filling" sorts of arguments - some people prefer TrueType output, some
prefer ATM. The biggest variable isn't the underlying font engine, but
how well the fonts themselves are written: under both systems a font is
sort of a small computer program, and some of them have "bugs" in ways
that simple bitmapped fonts simply can't have. In general, high-end
typeset production places seem to be most happy with ATM and Postscript,
in large part because of the enormous library of Type 1 fonts, and the
typical run-of-the-mill office/personal users seem to be happier with
TrueType since it's builtin and fast and doesn't require either a high-
priced Postscript printer or relatively slow software to convert Postscript
and/or Type 1 fonts to their printer format.

But since ATM will run fine with Windows 3.1 you can for once have
your cake and eat it too :-).

You can't use Type 1 fonts with TrueType, but there are various Type 1
to TrueType converter programs floating around that will probably become
much more visible after Windows 3.1 is officially released. The result
is usually not quite as nicely "hinted" as a font that has been tuned
for TrueType, which may hurt its on-screen appearance or its printing
on a low-resolution printer like a dot matrix printer, but for laser
printer output it usually works well.

> WinQVTNet
> ---------
>
> I've just started using WinQVTNet and really like it, has anyone used
> win3.1 with QVTNet and the Clarkson drivers for a NE2000 card?

I don't know specifically about this, I haven't used it. I think
it works OK if I recall comments from the beta forum.

>
> Stacker 2.0
> -----------
>
> Is Stacker 2.0 compatible with Win3.1? Is it compatible with Smartdrive 4.0?
> Finally, is it compatible with windows new direct read and write to the
> HD (I've heard this gives a big performance boost with WD HD controllers)?

Yes on all counts, though you would want to cache the underlying drive
with Smartdrive rather than the stacked drive.

> One Last Question: I've read comments that win3.1 is some much faster that a
> 16 MHz 386SX with win3.1 runs as fast as a 25 MHz 386DX with win3.0. Is this
> true? If so it may be the best $49 I'll ever spend.

I've heard people who have benchmarked them side-by-side say this, but
I've never done it myself. It _is_ much faster than 3.0 - I can well
believe that this is correct. 3.0's speed seems rather painful after
you've gotten used to 3.1.

It's also quite a bit more solid than 3.0 - crashes are *much* more rare.
There is a little program called "Dr. Watson" that you can load in the
StartUp group (this is a new Program Manager group containing programs
that are started with Windows - it's a more GUI way of doing this than
the old load= lines in WIN.INI). Dr Watson will log any errors that
happen during your Windows session (apps having segment faults, bad
system call parameters, etc), & allow you to find out fair amount about
what's failing. Most useful for programmer types or if you're trying
to install new or untested software and having trouble with it.

I have not used OS/2 V2.0 so I can't make a fair comparison. But
Windows 3.1 is certainly a very nice product.

Bruce C. Wright

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Subject: Coprocessed video cards
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stephen Yegge)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 92 08:48:15 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Steve Yegge)

Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Keywords: S3
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Does anyone know if there are/will be any cards with the S3 chipset
and the Sierra 32k DAC that have *more* than one meg of memory onboard?
I want to run 1024x768 in 32k-color mode. (If you don't know why, or
think that's just TOO many colors for your poor eyes, check out any recent
copy of NeXTWorld magazine and look at the ads for the NeXTstation color).
800x600 doesn't give me enough screen real-estate, and I'm tired of running
setup every time I want to use the 32k color capabilities of my video card.
(I actually installed another copy of windows in a separate directory to
avoid this hassle--at the expense of 8 megs of disk space!!)

Note that I don't want to pay $3000 for one of those big clunky 24bit cards
that everyone is complaining about.

As far as I know (and I hope I'm wrong) the ATI Ultra, Diamond Stealth and
Orchid Fahrenheit cards all have 1 meg on them (with no support for more).
You need ~1.2 megs to make drivers for 1024x768x32k.

I know there's lots and lots and lots and lots of interest in this topic
out there so lets see some posts!

Steve Yegge
[email protected]



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: EMM386 and WIN3 (again!!)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bosco Lai)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1992 11:19:23 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 29


I have read a lot about using window 3.0 with EMM386 in this group.
But I still can't get mine work!!!!! *sigh* The following is my
config.sys:

device=c:\dos\himem.sys
device=c:\dos\emm386.exe 3456 ram i=b000-b7ff x=c800-c9ff frame=e000
DOS=HIGH,UMB
files=30
buffers=30
devicehigh=c:\dos\ansi.sys
DEVICEhigh=C:\STACKER\STACKER.COM /EMS C:\STACVOL.DSK B:
DEVICEhigh=C:\STACKER\SSWAP.COM C:\STACVOL.DSK /SYNC

Also, I have the following line in my system.ini under [386Enh]

EMMExclude=A000-EFFF

by which I intended to tell win3 to run without using any extended memory
but it doesn't work. Every Time I run win3 my memory indicator shows me
something like 219 + 1797K free. (great! nuh?) but my CPU usage always
stays around 100% !!! What can I do??? Any idea??


Thanks in advance.

Waiting,
Bosco
P.S. My machine has a 4MB RAM and is running DOS 5.

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Subject: *** HyperTron/NT 3.0 bypasses OS/2 2.0 and Windows/NT !!! ***
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Nico de Vries.)
Date: 21 Mar 92 09:40:04 GMT
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Fake Inc. proudly announces HyperTron/NT 3.0. This new and inivative
operating system will run MS-DOS, CP/M, Windows, OS/2 2.0, UNIX (All
flavours of cource), Pink, Next, DesqView/X etc programs right of the
shelf on a 8086 computer with at least 128kb of RAM. Programs will execute
about the same speed as on a Intel Hypercube with 65000 processors.

Needless to say they you should NOT buy products available today but
should wait until Fake Inc. releases HyperTron/NT 3.0.

Release date will be april 1 1991 (or maybe some days later but most
certainly soon).


Nico de Vries ([email protected] NEW ADRESS!)

#include - O Don't
Complaints about my spelling to DEV/NUL please. | worry,
This is a private (ACCU) acount and I don't speak for BITECH. \_/ be happy!

Windows 3.1, Geoworks 2, DesQview/X, OS2 2.0; The war starts, the consumer wins.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Postscript printing hangs
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Thomas Wong)
Date: 21 Mar 92 08:47:38 GMT
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Hello all. I don't know which product is the problem so I don't know
where to ask this question. And this is the 3rd file that failed so I've
finally broke down to solve the problem. The problem.....

I use CorelDraw (on PCs)(in Windows) to do most of my graphical work.
And I almost always use postscript because of the greyscale abilities
and the fancy fonts. So 99% of the time, things would work fine and the
pictures are printed as expected. But once, a long time ago, I had one
file that just wouldn't print. At the time, I was using a Laserjet with
a postscript cartridge. I switched over to PCL mode and it printed fine
so I didn't bother looking into it. It happened again at the end of last
year with another file, I was in a rush at the time, switched over to
PCL mode and I've since forgotten about it. That's until today, I had it
happened again and now I have some time on my hand and I just want to
solve this thing once and for all.

As I said, I used CorelDraw in Postscript mode and prints on a Laserjet
III with 3 MB memory and a Pacific Page Posctscript cartridge. The
problem I have is the file would go off printing normally, and I can see
the byte counts on the Laserjet counting away while I have the Print
Manager displayed to show % printed. Then at 20KB, the counting stops on
both sides and Windows eventually come back with a Problem Sending To
Printer error. I tried to bump up the retries in the Windows but that
isn't the problem. I can crank it up to 999 seconds and it'll just
freeze for that long. Somehow, the printer has hung.

I've tried printing it to a postscript file, viewed it using Ghostscript
and Pageview (on Sun) and they displayed ok. Then I've tried dumping
the file to the printer by using copy to prn, DOS print, the print
spooler DMP and using its PF program, rebooting each time. In fact, I've
rebooted the computer, and printer, shutted both off for awhile, walk
away, and turn them back on. I've tried using another computer and
printer, 286, 486, Laserjet IIP with postscript cartridge, Laserjet IIIP
with PS cart and fully loaded 5MB, they all hang. The three files hang
at different sizes at different trial times. The other 99% of the files
I have done over the years all printed off fine. I can't see any patterns
between these three files that's not in working files. And it's only
in postscript mode that this happens. I've tried the old version of
CorelDraw (version 2.x) and current version 3.0. Same thing. No error
message on the printer, it just stops.

So I don't know if the problem is with a bug in Corel Draw that puts the
postscript program in an infinite loop. Or if the problem is with the
Pacific Pafe postscript cartridge (even though the Laserjet IIIP has the
latest version bought recently and look quite different from the others)
or whatever the problem is. It works in Laserjet PCL mode but not
postscript. Dumping to file and print in DOS or printing straight from
Windows made no difference (so I suspect the postscript code). But
Ghostscript and Pageview interpretted the file ok. Any ideas?
ANyone seen this happen to them? Thanks in advance.

Thomas.

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Subject: Re: Is there a Procomm Plus for Windows in the works?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 19 Mar 92 16:42:10 CST
References: <[email protected]>
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Missouri Computing Services
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In article <68056@ut-emx.uucp>, [email protected] (Alireza Vali) writes:
> I have used Procomm Plus for almost four years now. I have been waiting
> patiently for almost two years now for a port of this program to Windows.
> Is DataStorm Technologies not interested in developing a Windows version
> of this program? I've looked at a few shareware communications programs,
> but I didn't like any of them. I also tried a demo copy of Crosstalk for
> Windows, but that one is too expensive ($100+). I would really like to
> know whether a Windows version of Procomm Plus is either planned or is
> in development. Thanks in advance.
>
>

Procomm Plus for Windows is in final beta stages and looks really good. I am
not a beta tester for the company but am speaking from a recent demo given by
tech people from Datastorm. It is a nice package and will definitely make me
switch from my current DOS based Telemate.

The best features I liked were:

1. Mappable keyboards and awesome functionality in defining/redefining keys

2. Auto configure of modems

3. A button bar like WP, AMI PRO etc.

4. Support for external comm drivers instead of normal windows comm drivers

5. Very high level of support for the VT keyboards

ONe thing I didn't like about the deal was that Datastorm is not developing
their own COMM drivers...a VERY bad business move. Unless of course, either:

they own stock in TURBOCOMM driver makers

they have changed since the demo

Tej




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Subject: Re: Not happy with Excel, Alternatives?y
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stephen R. Figgins)
Date: 21 Mar 92 02:43:10 CST
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
Lines: 21

> I'm not happy with Excel 3.0. Is the next version better? How is the
> latest version of lotus and/or Wingz? Is there a Windows Equiv to
> Kaleidagraph?
>

What is it you don't like? It is hard to suggest something better
when I don't know what you need. I am pretty fond of Excel 3.0
myself. I was really disappointed with it's lotus macro conversion
though. It didn't convert a few really complex macros a friend of
mine had on lotus 1-2-3 for dos worth a damn.

I will be taking a look at lotus 4.0 in april, I haven't heard much
about it.
--
___________________________________________________________________________

Stephen R. Figgins | "Wommen desiren to have sovereynetee
kumag[email protected] | As wel over hir housbond as hir love,
| And for to been in maistrie hym above."
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Subject: Re: Type foundering, atm, TT, bitstream, etc.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Lawrence Hughes)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 15:22:18 GMT
References: <1992Mar14.171129.3731[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Summary: PC type foundry
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In article <199[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Michael Miller) writes:
> >
> > With the current trend towards ATM, TrueType, and other scalable font
> > descriptions, A though has occured to me (So I had to write it down,
> > they don't occure that often to me. 8) ) I have yet to see any software
> > share, free, cash or under-ware that would allow a person to create their
> > own type faces. Any info? especially on ATM and TrueType. (Cause I have
> > access to ATM and want to purchase 3.1 when it becomes available.)
> >
>
> Most of the shareware ATM fonts I'm currently seeing (and there are
> ALOT of them) seem to be produced on MACs with Fontographer. The following
> is from a readme file that was with a shareware font I picked up from a
> local BBS. It seems to do a pretty good job (at least on the results I've
> seen).
>
>
> I'll stick the disclaimer here -- "I don't have anything to do with Altsys"
>
>
> Fontographer 3.2 runs only on Macintosh computers. It runs on the $999.00
> Macintosh Classic which has a 1.44Mb FDHD Superdrive capable of formatting and
> writing a PC 3-1/2" diskette. Fontographer 3.2 retails for $495.00 and is
> available from all reputable dealers of Macintosh software. To make fonts for
> Windows with ATM from Fontographer 3.2 you can do the following:

[more details deleted]

No need to go buy or get access to a (yech) Mac - or buy a ton of Mac software,
as described. Check out Z-Soft Type Foundry for DOS. I think it runs about
$500 list, and is available mail order. It can generate bitmap or outline
(postscript only, as of my copy, as I recall, however check with them in
Marietta GA to see if they are now supporting TT). They also have a large
set of scalable fonts (called SoftType if memory serves) which will work with
ATM. I have a friend who used to work there as a graphics artist (she did the
great "Iguana among the brocoli & asparagus forest" image they used in their
ads...) She did some significant font work with Type Foundry and found it
to be quite usable.

Larry Hughes - uunet!ingr!b11!lhughes (not affiliated with ZSoft)

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Subject: Re: Windows threatens world security!?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 21 Mar 92 14:18:47 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Usenet News)
References: <1992Mar20.062350.19476@syacus.acus.oz.au> <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Keith Thigpen) writes:
> [email protected] (Steven Malikoff) writes:
>
>>[email protected] (Mike Johnston) writes:
>>: In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Todd J Derr) writes:
>>: Hmmm.... I thought UAE stood for "United Arab Emirates"? Guess I must
>>: be wrong.
>
>>No. You're incorrect. UAE actually stands for "Uncontrollable African Elephant".
>
>>Steve.
>>[email protected]
>
> Nah, guys. My Maytag guy says that it's "Unanticipated Appliance Expulsion".
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Keith Thigpen [email protected] (205)461-4936 |
> | New Technology, Inc. Marshall Space Flight Center Huntsville, AL |
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nope,

my brother tells me it is "Unwanted Amiga Emulation" (a'la Guru meditation),
and he should know.

-
Esa Riihonen [email protected]
Space Research Laboratory
University of Turku, Finland 42

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Subject: Getting Adobe fonts to work with Word Perfect for Windows
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Chris E Donnell)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 12:31:36 GMT
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I have installed Adobe font manager and installed some Adobe fonts but am
unable to get these in Word Perfect for Windows. What needs to be done to use
these? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Subject: Summary: Unexpected DOS Error: 11
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 20 Mar 92 18:10:56 EST
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
Lines: 52

Here's the summary of what I've found:-

[email protected] writes:

>Help! I'm getting an "Unexpected DOS Error: 11" when trying to shell to
>DOS 5.0 under Windows (3.0) by executing command.com. It has been working
>fine until a week ago, and I'm not sure what has changed to cause this error.
>Being unable to shell to dos means that I can't run any DOS programs either :(.
>Starting command.com with /p /e:512 doesn't do anything.

>I've tried starting up with a clean config.sys and autoexec.bat (ie: no extra
>stuff) and it has not helped matters. What can cause this error? What does it
>mean?

Well, apparently it was due to a buggy VDDTVGA.386 file. The display card
was changed to a Trident SVGA last week, and since then it was doing weird
stuff whenever we tried to shell to DOS. I deleted all the video drivers,
and reinstalled them using setup. Now, all modes work (I didn't try the Large
Fonts modes), including 1024 x 768 x 256 colors.

The Trident drivers I had were version C3.0, May '91.
(This is in response to the email by C J Tsikos)

Hope this helps someone (we wasted about four days trying to track this
down 🙁 )

Thanks again,

T.C.Wan
Grad Student
Univ. of Miami, FL

The responses I received are below:-
----------------------------
I don't know if this applies to you but I recently discovered that the
code which creates a DOS windows (at least in a Windows 3.0/DOS 5 system)
gets extremely buggy if you've got a network interface active when you
start Windows unless you've told Windows that a network exists. In our
environment the network is NetWare. It doesn't matter if you have a version
of IPX which isn't compatible with the current Windows; if Windows thinks
that no network is installed I've seen a variety of symptoms, ranging from
UAE's and such to a DOS window in which there are no environment variables
set except COMSPEC.

Joe Morris
----------------------------

It got you too. I bet you are using a Trident SVGA card
and you are running in 256 colors, right? Try to switch back
to the good old 16 color standard VGA. It will go away.

C. J. Tsikos

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Subject: Using Win 3.0 video drivers with Windows 3.1 (an answer?)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
Date: 21 Mar 92 15:17:03 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
Sender: [email protected]
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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A couple weeks ago, someone posted a message that he was using
3.0 drivers that came with his ATI Graphics Ultra (or was it a
Diamond Stealth) and he could not get them to work correctly in
Windows 3.1 (i.e get resizable fonts and the mouse to work within
DOS boxes).

I was just scanning through the SYSINI.WRI file and found the
following that solves the problem for me (using an ATI Graphics
Ultra). Perhaps it will be of utility to others in the near
future.

Add the following lines under the [NonWindowsApp] section in
SYSTEM.INI (Explanations are from SYSINI.WRI)

FontChangeEnable=0
(Explanation:Default: 1 on systems that use Windows 3.1 grabbers. 0 on
systems that use Windows 3.0 grabbers.
Purpose: Provides the ability to change the fonts when
running non-Windows applications in a window on systems
that use version 3.0 of the grabbers. If you want to be
able to change the fonts, enable this setting.)

MouseInDosBox=1
(Explanation:Default: 1 if an MS-DOS mouse driver with the extension
.COM or .SYS that supports the use of a mouse with a
non-Windows application is loaded.Otherwise, the default is 0
Purpose: Specifies whether the mouse is supported when
running a non-Windows application in a window. Mouse support
for non-Windows applications running in a window is
automatically available if you are using a Windows
3.1 version of the grabbers. If you are using a
Windows 3.0 version of the grabbers and you want mouse
support, enable this setting. If you do not
want mouse support, disable this setting.)

Regards,

Ashok
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Subject: Re: Is there a Procomm Plus for Windows in the works?
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (John Haynes)
Date: 21 Mar 92 15:29:03 GMT
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>>Procomm Plus for Windows is in final beta stages and looks really good. I am
>>not a beta tester for the company but am speaking from a recent demo given by
>>tech people from Datastorm. It is a nice package and will definitely make me
>>switch from my current DOS based Telemate.

Since Procomm Plus for Windows is in final beta, does anyone have an idea of
when it will be available? Weeks, months, years? 😉 I didn't know that a
windows version was in the works -- needless to say I am very anxious to get
my hands on it, the sooner the better. Thanks for any information.

John.

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Subject: Re: Problems with DeLorme Street Atlas USA CDROM pkg (long)
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From: [email protected] (Ron Stewart)
Date: 20 Mar 92 23:22:20 GMT
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In comp.windows.ms, [email protected] (John Serafin) writes:

[email protected] (Gary Field) writes:

>This is the sad story of my experience with the "Street Atlas USA" CDROM
>package by DeLorme Mapping.
I was about to order this for $99, but I guess that I will hold off.
Maybe it will behave better in the OS/2 2.0 emulation of Windows.
All of the ads say that Windows 3.0 is required. I wonder if the product
is available for any other system if the manufacturer is so quick to blame
the required environment. Why offer a product for sale if it can't work?
John Serafin
[email protected]
******************************************************************************

John and Gary,
Last week I installed a bundled package of multimedia that included a CD-ROM
drive, SoundblasterPro, and MS Windows 3.00a with multimedia extentions 1.0.
A couple days later I bought the DeLorme disk. It has worked flawlessly
on my 386/33 clone. The default IRQ on the sound board was set on 7 which
was also what lpt1 was using. I changed the board to IRQ5 which was not
being used. This map program is absolutely amazing and well worth the money.
The windows to map interface has been well thought out and is very user
friendly. I paid $99 for it.

Ron Stewart
Santa Rosa, Ca.

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Subject: Win3.0 enhanced and LanMan 2.1 won't cooperate
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From: [email protected] (Dan Montroy)
Date: 21 Mar 92 16:15:16 GMT
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I am running a Lan Manager 2.1 network with remote-booting workstations, and
when I put the WINA20.386 file in the root directory of the C: drive, the
file shows up in the directory when I type DIR, but when I type DIR WINA20.386
it doesn't. The net effect of this is that when Windows runs, it doesn't
realize that the file is there, and so it won't let me switch to 386 enhanced
mode. Could someone help me with this? Thanks a lot!

Dan Montroy
University of Illinois Housing
[email protected]

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Subject: Tape Backup Software
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Alan Walford)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 14:54:52 PST
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I recently purchased a Wangtek 150Mb tape drive. It takes 1/4" cartridges.
I like the drive itself quite a bit - It is fast and well built.

I very much dislike the Sytos software that came with it (it is a DOS program).

Does anyone know of a Windows based backup program that handles the
Wangtek 5150PK? I have PC Tools backup which I like but it does not handle
this drive (it only handles the smaller Wangtek 3040, 3080 and FAD 3500).

Also it seems like PCTOOLs backup only handles tape drives up to 80MB. Does
any other Windows based backup software handle tape drives with larger
capacity?

Thanks,

Al
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Subject: Re: Getting Adobe fonts to work with Word Perfect for Windows
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Richard Reiner)
Date: 21 Mar 92 17:41:30 GMT
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[email protected] (Chris E Donnell) writes:

>I have installed Adobe font manager and installed some Adobe fonts but am
>unable to get these in Word Perfect for Windows. What needs to be
>done to use these? Any help is greatly appreciated.

If you use the Windows printer drivers, nothing special need be done,
and ATM fonts will be available both for the screen and for the
printer.

If you use the WP printer drivers, you can still have ATM screen
fonts, but not ATM printer fonts. To get the screen fonts to work,
use PTR.EXE to edit your PRS file, and do the following:

1. Create a .ALL file containing just your printer driver (this is
necessary because PTR won't let you do step 2. if the file is in
.PRS format.

2. Edit the .ALL file with PTR.EXE, and rename your fonts so their
names match the Postscript names exactly. For example, change
"Times Roman" to "Times-Roman", and "Palatino Bold Italic" to
"Palatino-BoldItalic". You can find the Postscript names by
looking at the Load and Select Strings.

3. Reinstall your PRS file by using WPWin to extract it from the
.ALL file you created in step 1.

That's all. Provided you have all those fonts installed in ATM,
you'll now see them on screen.



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Subject: Re: Windows vs MS Mouse on COM1:
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 19:47:17 PST
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In article <1992Mar20.1[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> To use a Microsoft serial mouse with Windows, you should be using version
> Microsoft will upgrade your driver for about $25.00
> for older versions and for shipping charges for version 8.0 (this info
> is from memory so might be wrong).


I recall having seen the 8.0 driver on some BBS's. You might want to keep
your eyes open for them.

Aki.

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Subject: Re: TrueType and Service Bureau Postscript Printing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Date: 21 Mar 92 09:48:51 GMT
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In article , [email protected] (Alan Walford) writes:
> I am confused once again (too often an occurance ;-).
>
> I read recently (was it here or in some trade mag) that TrueType in Win 3.1
> is going to be useless for anyone using 3rd party service bureaus to do high
> resolution postscript output. The reasoning was that all these places use
> Postscript Type I fonts and so your TrueType doc will not print or will look
> different (ie. no WYSIWYG).

TrueType isn't going to be exactly useless for this situation, but it may
or may not be very much help.

Your choices in this sort of situation would be:

oPersuade the service bureau to carry the TrueType fonts etc that
would be needed for your document. This may not be much of a
problem for the straight run-of-the-mill fonts (the service
bureaus would have a big incentive to support at least the fonts
that come with Windows 3.1 but maybe not many others) or public-
domain fonts that you could carry over there yourself without
licensing problems.

oProduce your output in graphics directly for the service bureau's
printers. This could result in enormous print files as the
TrueType rasterizer would embed the fonts in the output as
graphics, but it would work and the quality would be good since
you are rasterizing directly for the service bureau's printers
(naturally you couldn't print it out on a low-resolution laser
printer first ... you'd have to create another output file for
your local laser printer).

oProduce your output for the service bureau in Postscript. This
may sacrifice some WSIWIG from your original if your TrueType
font metrics differ from the Postscript font metrics. There is
a big incentive for the TrueType font foundries to produce fonts
matching the various Type 1 font metrics.

I wouldn't say that any of this makes TrueType exactly useless, but it
may not help this situation all that much either, at least until the
service bureaus and font foundries round out their support for TrueType.

Bruce C. Wright

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Subject: Re: Delete Solitaire ? NO
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Michael Hart)
Date: 25 Mar 92 11:49:06 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Eduardo Martins) writes:

>[email protected] (Matthew Jackson) writes:

>>What !??!??! Delete Solitaire ?!!?!!? It was the major reason to purchase
>>Win3.0 After all, 2.1 only came with Reversi.

>Well, you'll have another major reason to purchase 3.1, then... It includes
>a new game, Minefield (that's not the excat name; I can't remember it). 🙂

Eduardo, was "WinMine" yours? Very nice game, (you SOB!) How the hell
am I supposed to get any work done around here? First, I delete the
program icon, so it won't be so easy to get to. Then, I find my self
doing Alt-F-R-winmine all the time.

This is just great! You've got my wife wasting time with Solitair (oops
shouldn't have said that, I don't think she paid 🙁 ), and now you've
got me wasting time with winmine.

(For the humor impaired - nah, never mind.)

EM, good work!

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Subject: Win3: what files can I delete?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Pete Johnson)
Date: 25 MAR 92 06:30:55
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I am running short on disk space (don't suggest Stacker - I'm already using it)
and feel that there are many files on the disk that I can delete since I don't
use Write, cardfiler, etc.

Is there a definitive directory of files required to run Windows so that I can
selectively delete others and free up some space?

Thanks,
Pete

Pete Johnson - DEC, Marlboro, MA USA
Internet: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Conversion of Mac sound files to .WAV files
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: mart[email protected] (Martin Hepperle)
Date: 25 Mar 92 11:42:59 GMT
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The soon to be released version of SoundTool 2.5 will be able to
read and write .WAV files.

Martin.

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Subject: Re: Egghead: Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Joe Wasik)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1992 18:30:47 GMT
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In an article [email protected] (Renee Linda Roberts) writes:
>I got Windows 3.1 yesterday, and am currently reviewing it for them (not a
>beta, the REAL THING). So far, not bad. I am compiling a list of bugs, and
>will release them here as well as to MS.

All due respect, but if you're compiling a list of bugs, things can't be
all that "not bad."

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Subject: activate window by mouseenter?
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From: [email protected] (Olaf Winkelhake)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 13:00:53 GMT
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Hi,
does anybody know if there is a program that changes the windows behavior
from "activate window when clicked inside the window" to "activate window
when mouse is entered" ?

Thanks in advance

Olaf Winkelhake
Dept. of Economics
University of Passau, Germany
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
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From: [email protected] (Bryon S. Lape)
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>>The initial stage is easier on the Mac. The more complicated stuff
>>isn't. When one gets to the point of wanting to do mailmerge, columns,
>>X-Y graphs in Excel, it is just as difficult on a Mac as on a PC, in
>>some cases more so. To get page numbers in a Word document required

What a total dunce. Page numbers in Word on the Mac are under
Footers. This is in the menu bar!


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Subject: Stacker..Where it be???
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Where can I getr Stacker and how much does it cost? Does it work
with DOS 5.0? Is it better than SuperStor that comes with DR DOS 6.0?


bsl
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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
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Date: 25 Mar 92 04:24:38 GMT
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writes:

> This is true, but only to an extent. I've seen several people on a
>PC who don't know what they are doing, and it's SCARY. On the other hand,
>there are also people out there who are just as bad on a MAC! They drop
>an application into a folder by accident, and then wonder where it went.
>Many people have trouble understanding how to transfer data using the
>clipboard. It goes on and on from the experience I've had with users of a
>MAC.
> I don't think it has so much to do with the machine you use, but the
>attitude you have when you use the machine. There are some people who just
>can't use computers effectively; whether it's PC's or MACS.

My wife took over a year and a half before she would CUT & PASTE, If
she wanted to move someting from one place to another she would print
it, re-key it and then backspace over the original. 🙂 She didn't feel
comfortable with all that "complicated" computer stuff!!!!!

She has never wanted to know more than how do the one thing she was doing
at the time and was always in a hurry to it done, (Fight the aligators,
but don't drain the swamp!!).

I have seen "REAL" users react the same way. When my kids ask for help
in "math", the wanted the "answer" and not an understanding of how/why.

The GEEKS/HACKERS of the world (me included), have a hard time
understanding users, I can get wrapped up in the technology and
the methods reguardess of the subject but the true USER has little
intrest outside using the computer as a tool to do a job and fails
to notice the beauty of the computer as "object-de-art"!! 🙂

> I also think many people have overstated how difficult it is to use a
>PC. MS-DOS is not pretty, but it's not terribly complicated either.
>You have to memorize some dos commands, but they aren't too hard. As for
>Windows, I've been using it for over a year now, and I have no problems
>with it.

Another thing I have observed over the years:

(1) Things are difficult for you are things you aviod AND things
that you avoid are generally difficult for you.
(2) The harder you worked to get or understand the something more
important you think it is. (I know a few who struggled with C/PM and
still won't give it up because winning the understanding was so
important to them they couldn't begin to start over).
(3) I like the Mac, but my emotional ties to it are not nothing to
the good old vacuum tube IBM 704 & UNIVAC 1103a's that I spent
most of my waking hours working on during the early 60's.

Since we die a little each day, I prefer the Mac because it take me
less time to do what I do on a Mac, and less time learing it.

Stated another way the Mac gives me more time to do things I want to
with my life, than learing the 900 different key stroke combinations
that it takes to run the latest copy of "graphic word wiggler" for the
DOS world.

Bill Roberts, working hard on becoming the worlds oldest geek!! 🙂
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Subject: Modify Truetype font: where to start?
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From: [email protected] (Mike Roch)
Date: 25 Mar 92 13:36:09 GMT
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How do you create or modify a TrueType font? ($0.00 solutions preferred!)

Mike

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Subject: Re: TT font pack list.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 13:51:13 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
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David Hole writes:
> As of 3-24-92, the TT fonts that are included with the TT font Pack are,
> according to a MS sales rep:
> # Font Descrip.
> 1-4 Mono type Monospaced in reg., bold, italic, bold italic
> 5-8 Arial Narrow Narrow form of Arial (helvitica)
> 9-12 Book Antique
> 13-16 Book Oldstyle
> 17-20 Century Schoolbook
> 21-24 Century Gothic
> 25-28 Sans May be similar to Bigelow or Holmes faces
> 29-32 Sans Typewriter
> 33-36 Fax
> 37 Bright Handwriting
> 38 Bright Blackletter
> 39 Bright Caligraphy
> 40 Bright Math Symbols
> 41 Bright Math Extnsns
> 42 Bright Math
> 43 Conservia Script type face
> 44 Sorts Fences, symbols

A little bit more information on the Lucida fonts:

25-28 Lucida SansSans serif, large x-height, very readable
29-32 Lucida Sans TypewriterMonospaced, nice for source listings!
33-36 Lucida FaxSlab serif, large x-height, for faxes etc.
37 Lucida Bright Handwr.Script, fairly casual, quite readable
38 Lucida Bright Blackl.Cursive, like 16th cent. blackletter
39 Lucida Bright Calligr.Script, developed from Chancery cursive
40-42 Lucida MathMathematical symbols

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Subject: Re: 1024 x 768 Modes -- Larger fonts?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Tom Carter [email protected]
Date: 25 Mar 92 13:43:53 GMT
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Organization: Michigan State University, Chemistry Department
Summary: I use it too, and it's great!
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Lawrence Chiu) writes:
>
> stuff deleted
>
>I found a neat utility on cica (I think) called woafon12.zip. It's a bunch
>of replacement fonts for Windows in DOS mode especially when running
>SVGA modes. Using a 14" monitor and 800x600 I found the DOS Windows too
>small and I didn't like the 8514 fonts. But woafon12.zip had a rather
>nicely sized fonts for the DOS Windows - very legible. I don't know what
>it's like at 1024x768 but there are replacements for that mode also.
>Give it a try!
>
>
>===========================================================================
> Laurence Chiu


I use them at 1024x768, and they're great! They are called Large Friendly Letters,
and it's an apt name. To install, you need to edit the SYSTEM.INI file, but it's
all spelled out plainly for idiots in the documentation in the ZIP file.

Tom Carter
Chemistry Department

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Eric Trepanier)
Date: 25 Mar 92 15:12:32 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
>Ok, enough bullshit. Does Microsoft want me to buy
>win 3.1, or do they want me to not buy it because
>it won't run with my operating system?
>
>I am torked off because it seems to me that Microsoft
>deliberately made win3.1 incompatible with DRDOS6.0.
>If Microsoft wants windows to be an operating system,
>then why in the hell don't they bundle MSDOS5.0 with
>it, and make the two synonymous?

Will you quit the whining already!!!

Microsoft owes NOTHING to DR-DOS users. Its loyalty is to MS-DOS user ONLY!!!
It's Digital Research's job to make sure their OS _IS_ compatible with
Windows 3.1 AND NOT THE OPPOSITE!!! You took a chance when you bought your
DR-DOS copy and now you have to live with it!!! You can be CERTAIN that
there is NO SUCH THING AS "IF OS=DRDOS THEN CRASH" logic in Windows 3.1,
but you can also be quite sure that Windows 3.1 is intimately dependant on
MS-DOS routines and that if DR-DOS is not 100% compatible, it WILL BREAK.

Incidently, Win 3.1 is not the only program to have compatibility problems
with DR-DOS. A friend of mine couldn't get it to work with PC-GEOS. I
think a call to DR-DOS tech. dept. got him an update that solve this
problem, but this is just to emphasize the fact that DR-DOS IS NOT PERFECT.

I am sick and tired of seeing these "WIN3.1 refuses to work with DRDOS,
WIN3.1 refuses to work with OS/2, WIN3.1 refuses to work with my Foobar OS..."
letters... BTW for those people that thought 3.1 applets refused to work
under OS/2 specificly: IN YOUR DREAMS! These applets DID NOT WORK because
WINOS2 (the Windows in OS/2) IS NOT A 3.1 ENVIRONMENT. Not now, and certainly
not until the official release date of Windows 3.1!!! If you look in the
About box of the program manager, you will see that you have a 3.00a version.
That's why the applets don't work, just as they don't work under plain
Windows 3.0 or 3.00a. Again at the risk of repeating myself, there is no
"IF OS=OS/2 THEN CRASH, BOMB, DIE".

>Do we have to wait until 4/6 for DRI to admit the
>compatibility problem and then wait for them to
>fix it? AND THEN PAY FOR THE FIX?

Whether you pay or not for the fix is DR's decision, and they won't be
able to claim 3.1 compatibility until it is officialy released, because
they are not a 3.1 beta testing site. The reasons for this are obvious:
Digital Research are not Windows developers, they are strictly an MS-DOS
competitor and as such, Microsoft are quite legitimately refusing to let
them in on the 3.1 beta testing program. My bet is that DR-DOS WILL have
a patch, and probably faster that you can think. If they don't, their
credibility as a 100% compatible MS-DOS product will be gone. I wouldn't
expect it to be very expensive either...

>p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
>let me know. But for now, I'm keeping my money in
>my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until

>this is resolved!

I don't think this will be a problem for Microsoft. If MS-DOS 5.0
is any indicative of what to expect, I would think Windows 3.1 will
be a HUGE commercial success...


Regards,


Eric
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Subject: REQUEST: extended ASCII shortcuts
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (D. Todd Klassen)
Date: 24 Mar 92 06:20:32 GMT
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I have a friend who has asked me a question about using extended ASCII with
Microsoft Windows. He would like to have a shortcut way of entering
extended ASCII codes in any program rather than typing ALT 0 and a number
sequence. Do you know of any such tool or shortcut?

Any help will be appreciated.

Please Email responses to [email protected]

I'll send a summary of the responses if requested.

Cheers,

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Subject: RE: USING 16550A W/WINDOW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 24 Mar 92 19:40:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
B > ... and nobody who's
B >tested the 16550 support has noticed this behavior or at least hasn't
B >mentioned it if they have.

I've seen several mentions that the 16550 IS supported in DOS windows,
but I won't really know until I get 3.1 myself. On other mail networks,
the beta testers claim that MS has "released" them to talk, and they
sure are doing that!
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Subject: re: Stanford Graphics experience
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Tom Carter
Date: 25 Mar 92 13:59:23 GMT
Sender: Tom Carter [email protected]
References: Newsgroups:
Organization: Michigan State University
Summary: have you tried Origin by MicroCal?
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In article [email protected] (Christy Logan) writes:
>There was some interest on this newsgroup about the new technical
>graphing/presentation program Stanford Graphics. With great
>anticipation, we recently purchased the program. Here's our
>experience with it. (The bottom line for those who don't
>want to read all of this is that we were quite disappointed
>and don't find it to be usable in its present state. It's
>got a lot of promise though).
>
>

Have you tried Origin by Microcal? I've been using it for some time
now, and I think it's the best around in scientific graphing/analysis
software. It's fast and produces great output, but isn't perfect
(some UAE's, but not too many). You can try it free: a fully
functioning (except saving files in native form - you can still save
ascii data sets) demo is available through anonymous/ftp on
cica.cica.indiana.edu in the pub/pc/win3/demos directory. The
documentation is also not so hot, but for most things I find I don't
need it! It can do user defined fitting (as well as several canned
fits - the normal stuff) with up to 30 parameters in the function.
I use it all the time. Email for more info, if you like. Good luck!

Tom Carter
Chemistry Department
Michigan State University

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 upgrade and True Type
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Joe Wasik)
Date: 24 Mar 92 22:01:25 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Joe Wasik)
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In an article [email protected] writes:
>[...] I do know that the 13 fonts that you're used
>to getting with 3.0 come with both TrueType and bitmapped versions in 3.1.

Sorry, but just where are these 13 fonts that I'm supposed to be used to
having? In PaintPbrush or Write? In my Word-for-Windows 1.1a (where it
counts), I only had a couple of fonts that came win Windows 3.0. That's
because it only shows fonts suitable for my printer.

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Subject: Jpeg Viewer
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From: [email protected] (Stephane Vachon)
Date: 25 Mar 92 15:14:37 GMT
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Hi guys....

Just want to know if any Jpeg viewer exist for Windows 3.0 or 3.1.

Thanks...

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Subject: Re: Need 640x480x256 color ET-3000 driver for Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (James William Shoemaker)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 16:19:25 GMT
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> For the past two years I have been using an enhanced 256 color driver
> for my Tseng 8 bit (ET3000 based ) VGA card (w/512k). I just installed Windows
> 3.1 which looks really nice. Unfortunately, the 256 color driver won't
> work under ver 3.1 :(.
> Does anyone know where I can an updated driver that will support the Tseng
> card in 256 color mode? The card is similar to the Orchid Prodesigner I
> so drivers for that might work as well.
> Gary

The drivers work fine, the problem is the setup.inf file. I hacked the
setup.inf and the old drivers (with the exception of the 1024x768x16) worked
fine. I even use the new 800x600x256 driver. The setup.inf hacking is not too
hard, I could upload sections if you want. The problem is that files are on
different disks, and are named other names, use the standard driver names as a
reference. changes include things like extensions .3gr changing to .gr3, or is
it the other way around in reverse.

JWS

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Subject: Re: Tseng 3000 drivers for Windows 3.1?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (James William Shoemaker)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 16:23:56 GMT
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> Is there any hope trying to get a Tseng 3000 -based 512 Kb VGA card
> running 640 x 480 x 256 under Windows 3.1?

> My card's made by Tseng itself (in 1988 I suppose) and it's pretty old,
> but works well in other applications anyway (vpic etc). The only drivers
> I have are the original drivers meant for Windows 2 and Windows/386 ver
> 2.1. I tried downloading a packet called ET3000.ZIP but those drivers
> are buggy as hell (or my card goes bonkers), and they're meant for
> Windows 3.0.

> My card works OK with Vpic 4.6's '512K Tseng 3000 256 color' drivers,
> and it also should be compatible with Orchid 512K cards, but I've had no
> luck to find Orchid drivers.

The orchid 3.0 drivers work fine with my Orchid PD+ and win 3.1 (with some
hacking of the setup.inf) just download them from the Orchid BBS. If you don't
have the number, I will post it tomorrow. I don't have it with me at school.


> Or do I just throw it out of the (physical) window??

No, the card is a little short of ram and slow , but works fine under
windows.


JWS



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Subject: WFW 2.0 Graphics Question
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Terry Clouthier)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 92 16:20:04 GMT
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WFW 2.0 Graphics Question
I just installed word for windows 2.0 and was intrigued by the
integrated drawing package. However, almost all my diagrams
require lines with arrowheads. Does word support arrowheads? If not
it looks like it's back to coral for even simple diagrams! If I use corel
what is the best format to exchange diagrams? With word for
windows 1.0 I was using EPS!

Thanks
Terry Clouthier


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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Michael Polen)
Date: 25 Mar 1992 16:55:53 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
|> Ok, enough bullshit. Does Microsoft want me to buy
|> win 3.1, or do they want me to not buy it because
|> it won't run with my operating system?
|>
Microsoft cannot make a major enhancement to windows that will be compatible
with other operating systems such as DRDOS, SCO UNIX, etc because they have
no control over them. If they need to enhance DOS or use features that some
other OS competitor decided not to be compatible with, to get a better
Windows, then I want them to do just that.

|> I am torked off because it seems to me that Microsoft
|> deliberately made win3.1 incompatible with DRDOS6.0.

I wish I was clairvoyant too. I didn't know they did it on purpose.

|> If Microsoft wants windows to be an operating system,
|> then why in the hell don't they bundle MSDOS5.0 with
|> it, and make the two synonymous?

Because there are MSDOS5.0 users that don't want/need windows.
|>
|> Do we have to wait until 4/6 for DRI to admit the
|> compatibility problem and then wait for them to
|> fix it? AND THEN PAY FOR THE FIX?
|>
It is DRI's responsibility to be compatible with MSDOS5.0, after all they
are the ones that claimed compatibility, not Microsoft.

|> I am really quite pissed off about this!
|>
At DRI? They are the ones that screwed up.

|> p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
|> let me know. But for now, I'm keeping my money in
|> my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until
|> this is resolved!
|>
Misplaced loyaty.

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Subject: Re: STACKER - RAMDRIVE
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Michael Polen)
Date: 25 Mar 1992 16:59:40 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (David Deitch) writes:
|> On Thu, 19/Mar/92 at 19:37, John Will said this to All:
|>
|> JW> RD.The problem I'm having is that I stack the the ramdrive but I can't
|> JW> .get access to the stacked file. How can I mount this drive from my
|> JW> .command line or from Autoexec.bat/ config.sys?????
|>
|> JW> Since you use a RAMdrive for speed, why in the world would you use
|> JW> STACKER on it? A MUCH better solution is to use an area on your
|> JW> regular drive and install a good caching program with staged writes.
|> JW> That RAM will be much better spent there.
|>
|> Let me give you one main reason. A stacked RAMdrive can double or even
|> triple its capacity. A cache is also a good option, since Stacker compresses
|> before writing to the cache. Since data stored in the cache is compressed,
|> the cache holds twice as much. Optimally, I use a 2MB cache and RAMdrive,
|> both which give me about 4MB. But some applications perform better with RAM
|> drives rather than caches, even with staged writes.
|>
I had the same problem. A fax to STAC gave me the answer. My problem
was that i needed my
device=stacker.com ...
before my
device=ramdrive.sys
because I wanted my ramdrive above my stacked hard drives

Solution:

1.Add an @ to the end of your
device=c:\stacker\stacker.com ... @

2.Add an screate after your ramdrive
device=c:\ramdrive.sys /e 1024
device=c:\stacker\screate.sys d:

note that d: would be the drive created by the ramdrive.

3.In your autoexec.bat file put
c:\stacker\stacker d:

note that this **must** be before fastopen, if you use fastopen.

Hope this helps.
Mike Polen

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Subject: Re: ATM & Excel Problems - Help
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Michael Polen)
Date: 25 Mar 92 17:01:24 GMT
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In article , [email protected] (Kevin Coleman) writes:
|>
|> Anthony F. Navarro writes:
|>
|> >I have Windows 3.0, Excel 3.0, and ATM 2.0. Trying to print an ATM
|> >font from Excel results in 90% whitespace where type should be, in both
|> >portrait and landscape mode. Word processors seem to work fine.
|>
|> >Any suggestions on how to get Excel & ATM to work together? Please respond
|> >to my EMail address if possible.
|>
|> >Thanks in advance.
|>
|> >Anthony F. Navarro
|> >Library Systems Specialist
|> >Polytechnic University
|> >EMail: [email protected]
|> >Voice: (718)260-3912
|> >
|> YES!! I would absolutely love it if someone could help me with this problem
|> as well. I'm using ATM 1.1, but I have the same exact problem.
|>
|> Please, E-mail me as well if you know.
|>
|> Thanks alot,
|>
What printer(s) are you using. I had the same problem with a Deskjet
and found the solution. It was definitly printer specific.

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1 IS shipping!
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Date: 25 Mar 92 14:57:11 GMT
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[email protected] (Russ Poffenberger) writes:

>: Anyway, even though Windows 3.1 is a Fed Ex, they apparently have
>: instructions not to ship until the April release date. Microsoft is just
>: getting ready (and some photo ops).

>I would also imagine that they WILL be shipping to dealers, so that they will
>be ready to sell on Apr 6.

PC Week reports (p. 8, 23 March 92 issue) that "users who order the
Windows 3.1 upgrade in advance will receive it by 10:00 AM on April 6."

Joe Morris

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
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[Discussion of a list of programs which supposedly have problems under
Windows 3.1, with various statements of agreement or disputation...just
like most usenet threads 😉 .]

The current (23 March) issue of PC Week has several articles on Windows 3.1,
and on page 8 publishes a list of some of the products which are called out
as having problems when run under Windows 3.1; the names are taken from
the README file from an early shrink-wrap copy of Windows 3.1. Under
the headline "The Windows 3.1 Casualty List" are included:

Ace Software AceFile hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
Aldus FreeHand 3.0 Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
Aldus Persuasion Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
Borland C 3.0 Winsight Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
Campbell Services On Time 1.0 NBI Legacy
Central Point Software PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
Channel Computing Forest and PFS: WindowsWorks
Trees 2.0a
Claris Hollywood PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
Coda Finale SoftNet FAXit for Windows
Computer Support Arts & Letters Software Publishing Harvard Graphics
for Windows
Computer Support Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
First Byte Monologue for Windows WordStar for Windows

The article does not identify the problems associated with any particular
product on the list, and doesn't say if that information is given in the
README file.

(On a related note, the same issue includes an article on the new Norton
Desktop release with comments from the beta testers.)

Joe Morris

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bill Coleman)
Date: 25 Mar 92 11:55:00 GMT
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In article , [email protected] (From A to B) writes:
> [email protected] (John Coolidge) writes:
>> These are all U.S. numbers. Worldwide, Apple is as strong or stronger
>> than they are in the U.S.
>
> I do not believe that for a moment.
>
> In the UK, Apple is nowheresville. There is one (1) regular magazine for Mac
> users in the newsagents. I've never found Mac software anywhere except in
> Apple dealers and in a couple of shops in central London.

I don't doubt this for a moment. I'd guess the Mac is LESS popular in the UK
than in the US.

However, the UK isn't the entirity of the world market. Across the channel,
in France, the Mac is MORE popular than in the US. They love that machine.
Germany is also quite strong on Macs, and in Japan the Mac is the best selling
US-made computer.

Last figures I had, non-US sales make up 45% of Apple's revenue. So, those
machines are being sold somewhere, if not in the UK.

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (JAMES DORCEY)
Date: 25 Mar 1992 12:41 EST
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In article , [email protected] (Joe Morris) writes...
>[Discussion of a list of programs which supposedly have problems under
> Windows 3.1, with various statements of agreement or disputation...just
> like most usenet threads 😉 .]
>
>The current (23 March) issue of PC Week has several articles on Windows 3.1,
>and on page 8 publishes a list of some of the products which are called out
>as having problems when run under Windows 3.1; the names are taken from
>the README file from an early shrink-wrap copy of Windows 3.1. Under
>the headline "The Windows 3.1 Casualty List" are included:
>
> Ace Software AceFile hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
> Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
> Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
> Aldus FreeHand 3.0 Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
> Aldus Persuasion Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
> Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
> Borland C 3.0 Winsight Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
> Campbell Services On Time 1.0 NBI Legacy
> Central Point Software PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
> Channel Computing Forest and PFS: WindowsWorks
> Trees 2.0a
> Claris Hollywood PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
> Coda Finale SoftNet FAXit for Windows
> Computer Support Arts & Letters Software Publishing Harvard Graphics
> for Windows
> Computer Support Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
> First Byte Monologue for Windows WordStar for Windows
>
>The article does not identify the problems associated with any particular
>product on the list, and doesn't say if that information is given in the
>README file.
>
>(On a related note, the same issue includes an article on the new Norton
>Desktop release with comments from the beta testers.)
>
>Joe Morris

Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microsoft,
won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure you're
running MS-DOS 5.0.

Is there a pattern here?

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Subject: Windows 3.1 Upgrade for Logitech Owners...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] ("James F. Van Leeuwen")
Date: 25 Mar 92 17:39:00 GMT
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Hello Netters!

I purchased a Logitech Series 15 Mouse with Windows 3.0 a while back. I'm
interested to know who I go to for the upgrade to version 3.1 of Windows. I
haven't gotten around to calling Logitech or Microsoft, so any help would be
appreciated.




Thanks!
Jim
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Subject: Windows 3.1 Retail Upgrade Pricing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bob Rusbasan)
Date: 25 Mar 92 18:03:30 GMT
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I am currently debating whether or not to order Windows 3.1 through
Microsoft or wait until it is for sale at a local computer store. I
suspect many others are in the same position.

Since MS says if you order through them it will be in your hand by
10 AM on April 6 (or, at the very latest, the following day), time
does not really matter. Obviously, the big issue is the price.

Does anyone have any information on what the upgrade will cost at
the average computer store? I seem to recall that someone posted
that stores will actually be charged $46 for the upgrade by MS, which
is only $10 cheaper than the total price of ordering it through MS.
Is this true?

If so, stores are likely to charge about the same as MS, possibly more.
Although apparently Egghead sold DOS 5.0 for less than it cost them
for a while, this is bound to be the exception, rather than the rule.

In summary, does anyone know what stores are likely to charge for the
uprgrade? Specifically, can anyone verify or deny the $46 dealer price?

Thanks...


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Subject: Re: REQUEST: extended ASCII shortcuts
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jerry M. Cummings)
Date: 25 Mar 92 17:22:40 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (D. Todd Klassen) writes...
>I have a friend who has asked me a question about using extended ASCII with
>Microsoft Windows. He would like to have a shortcut way of entering
>extended ASCII codes in any program rather than typing ALT 0 and a number
>sequence. Do you know of any such tool or shortcut?
>

cica.cica.indiana.edu pub/pc/win3/fonts/cmps1_32.zip

contains an application I wrote that provides support for this. You
press a "compose" key, and then two mnemonic letters to compose the
desired character. For instance, 12 results in the = half
character, a' results in a, etc.

This application also has a few predefined compose sequences:

Dplops the date into the current window ( means space)
Tplops the time into the current window
DTplops both date and time into the current window
brings up a dialog box where you can preview available
screen fonts in whatever style and size you'd like and
then double click on the desired character.

Because I found that I was using this as much for fiddling with ATM
and TrueType fonts as I was for accessing non-keyboard characters, I
threw a few font-related things in:

Ability to print all the characters of a font in the size and style
you choose. You can also print bounding boxes and other font info.

Ability to print samples of all (or as many as you select) printer
fonts in size and style you choose.

You can also add your own compose sequences, like "dec" to have the
string "Digital Equipment Corporation" appear in the current window.

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Michael Levine
Date: Wednesday, 25 Mar 1992 09:18:59 CST
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In article ,
[email protected] (Kevin Coleman) says:
>
>Could someone perhaps fill me in on what the "Windows Resource Kit" is?
>
>I'm not awfully familiar with this.

Kevin:

According to Microsoft, it is "A VALUABLE COLLECTION OF TOOLS AND TIPS.." for
Windows users containing technical notes on Windows installation, configuri-
zation, and optimization. It also includes diagnostic tools, applications, and
utilities such as Microsoft's Productivity Pack, Shareware programs ("Fish" and
"Fireplace", and even an hDC utility.

This is all direct from the mouths of the marketing people at MS and, as you
can probably imagine, there pretty EXCITED!!! about the whole deal! So, take
it for where it comes from. I personally haven't purchased it, nor do I know
anyone who has. However, it looks ok....

To order call (800) 642-7676. The price is $14.50 plus applicable sales tax
and $5.50 freight.

Hope this helps....

(spurious disclaimer): I don't work for Microsoft... I just bow down before
it. ;->

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Subject: Re: Delete Solitaire ? NO
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Eirik Lygre)
Date: 25 Mar 92 17:10:29 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Matthew Jackson) writes:
>
>What !??!??! Delete Solitaire ?!!?!!? It was the major reason to purchase
>Win3.0 After all, 2.1 only came with Reversi.
>
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>[email protected] |

The sun is shining! 3.1 comes with WinMine, a great game, unless
you have some work to do...

Of course, os/2 2.0 comes with a network-aware chess game which
is one of the slickest I've seen in a *long* time. And Neko. And
Klondike solitaire. And reversi. So if you're a games buff, you
have *FOUR* reasons to go with os/2. All the stuff about the
great os I'm sure you have heard. I just want to add "It's true"


Good luck with your playing, on whatever os you chose.

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 13:42:13 -0500
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jim Ruehlin) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> Iskandar Taib writes:

>
>>The initial stage is easier on the Mac. The more complicated stuff
>>isn't. When one gets to the point of wanting to do mailmerge, columns,
>>X-Y graphs in Excel, it is just as difficult on a Mac as on a PC, in
>>some cases more so. To get page numbers in a Word document required
>
>I could see how it would be just as difficult, since Excel on the Mac
>and Excel on the PC are designed to work almost alike.

Well, take any other two relatively powerful Apps. The same thing
applies. To do the same thing requires some degree of learning for
either platform. And no, its not just Microsoft apps either. I find
MacWrite II to be more obtuse than Word.

The consistency of how to do things is again limited to the simple.
Resetting the page number in Word is not the same as doing it in Word-
Perfect which is not the same as doing it in MacWrite II.

||the use of a manual. In Wordperfect 5.1 I figured it out in a minute.
||The use of Multifinder, Font D/A mover and setting up inits and cdevs
||isn't all that intuitive either. Its great if there is someone one
|
|To use Multifinder all you have to do is start the Mac (unless you mean
|switching between finder and multifinder). The rest of the stuff you
|mention is difficult in system 6.x and below because Apple never follows
|their own user interface guidelines. But in system 7.0 there is no Font/DA
|mover - you just put it in the System folder. Same with inits and cdevs.
|The system handles the rest for you.

Well to start it is easy, but until someone shows you how it
works using it isn't exactly "intuitive".

||Still, for computerphobes I'd recommend a Mac. Then they can move up
||to Windows when it suits them.
|
|"Move up to Windows"? You mean that you think Windows is more technically
|advanced than Mac? Or that since Windows is more difficult to use than the
|Mac people should first get experience on an easy O.S.?

I was being facetious so keep your shorts on 9-)

I actually learned to use a Mac by first learning on Windows 2.01. Win-
dows in its current form is still not a novice's playground. It takes
considerable setting up. However, with some support (eg. a friend nearby)
a novice could make considerable use of it.



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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Iskandar Taib)
Date: 25 Mar 92 18:51:12 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Bryon S. Lape) writes:
>>>The initial stage is easier on the Mac. The more complicated stuff
>>>isn't. When one gets to the point of wanting to do mailmerge, columns,
>>>X-Y graphs in Excel, it is just as difficult on a Mac as on a PC, in
>>>some cases more so. To get page numbers in a Word document required

>What a total dunce. Page numbers in Word on the Mac are under
>Footers. This is in the menu bar!

Or in the header. Or in the page preview.

Why should it be immediately apparent that the page numbers
should be in the footers? Supposing you've never used a word
processor in your life. Why isn't there just a menu that says
"page number" under "Format"?



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Subject: Re: Changing icons
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 92 07:54:46 Y
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[email protected] (Kate Wilson) writes:

> In article <4[email protected]>, [email protected] (Joseph
> >Windows allows you to change the default icon but the change is only good
> >in the Program Manager. The application reverts to its default icon when
> >it is minimized. Is this odd or is it just me?
> >
> No, this is normal although I believe I read that Win3.1 will fix this
> "normal" problem.

What I gather is that DOS programs will have icons, but windows programs
will still have the "problem".

...Stefan


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Subject: Re: Excel 4 announcement == Stonehenge
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stefan Olson)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 92 07:11:06 Y
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[email protected] (Anthony T Green) writes:

> I've just returned from the Excel 4 announcement at PC Windows/Canada.
> I had only one word running though my head. No, it wasn't "Windows"...
> it was "Stonehenge!"

Well... We are waiting... What new and wonderful features does it have??

...Stefan


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[email protected] (From A to B) writes:

> Easier to modify? I *still* can't find a PC program to compare with ResEdit.

Borland's new Resource Workshop is *great*, have you seen it, I know a bit
about ResEdit, and they sound similar...

...Stefan


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Subject: Re: Changing icons
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[email protected] (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.) writes:

> Windows allows you to change the default icon but the change is only good
> in the Program Manager. The application reverts to its default icon when
> it is minimized. Is this odd or is it just me?

The reason for that, is that a program defines which icon should be
displayed when minimized, so you have no option as to what it is..

...Stefan


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Subject: AfterDark 2.0 changing palette
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From: [email protected] (Chris Kashuba)
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Has anyone had any problems with the new Afterdark for Windows? A friend
of mine tells me that his dad's changes the palette for the rest of the
session when he runs a DOS application. I have AD 2.0 on order so I have
yet to see any adverse affects for myself. Any other possible problems
I should know about? Any input would be appreciated.


Thanks
Chris Kashuba

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (JAMES DORCEY)
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In article <9[email protected]>, [email protected] (Michael
Levine) writes...
>In article ,
>[email protected] (Kevin Coleman) says:
>>
>>Could someone perhaps fill me in on what the "Windows Resource Kit" is?
>>
>>I'm not awfully familiar with this.
>
>Kevin:
>
>According to Microsoft, it is "A VALUABLE COLLECTION OF TOOLS AND TIPS.." for
>Windows users containing technical notes on Windows installation, configuri-
>zation, and optimization. It also includes diagnostic tools, applications, and
>utilities such as Microsoft's Productivity Pack, Shareware programs ("Fish" and
>"Fireplace", and even an hDC utility.
>
>This is all direct from the mouths of the marketing people at MS and, as you
>can probably imagine, there pretty EXCITED!!! about the whole deal! So, take
>it for where it comes from. I personally haven't purchased it, nor do I know
>anyone who has. However, it looks ok....
>
>The price is $14.50 plus applicable sales tax and $5.50 freight.

This sounds an awful lot like stuff that should be included in the 3.1 Upgrade
package. It seems like it would save the Win 3.1 techs a few calls.


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Subject: Re: Changing icons
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Date: 25 Mar 92 13:13:53 GMT
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[email protected] (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.) writes:

> Windows allows you to change the default icon but the change is only good
> in the Program Manager. The application reverts to its default icon when
> it is minimized. Is this odd or is it just me?

This is fixed in Windows 3.1.

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bradley Wong)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 19:50:46 GMT
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>>The article does not identify the problems associated with any particular
>>product on the list, and doesn't say if that information is given in the
>>README file.
>>
>Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microsoft,
>won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure you're
>running MS-DOS 5.0.
>
>Is there a pattern here?

Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows is a "new" product...

By the way, the table is a little bogus. The article goes on to say
that Ami Pro <2.0> works ok, or that Arts & Letters <3.11> runs ok.
These are the latest releases, anyway. Monologue will run fine if
you have the MPC multimedia extentions and a sound card, but will
choke if you are only going to the PC speaker (different virtual
printer driver under Win 3.1).




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Subject: Microsoft Project for Windows question
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I use Microsoft Project for Windows to produce GANT charts. These
charts show tye time frame of various building rehabs going on around
campus. The chart is set up with two bars on row 1 and two on row 2
for each rehab project. The chart is printed on a Paintjet XL. All
the columns of the data are printed.
Because the chart is printed on two lines (one for each pair of bars),
the data also uses two rows. The computer automatically prints the data
on the first row and leaves the second blank. Is there a way that I
can access the second row for each entry? I'd like to print notes
underneath the name of the project.
I also save three sets of dates under start1, finsih1, ..., start3,
and finish3. These data are stored in date format. Some of the dates
are estimates. I would like to mark the ones that are estimates in some
way. One method would be to write estimate or something like that below
the date (which wouldrequire an answer to the previous question). Another
method would be to change the color of the date in question (nice thing
about having a color printer). Any ideas?
I'd also like to be able to add text in to the gant chart. Is there a
way to do this? Basically I'd like to add comments near some of the bars.
I'd prefer to find a way to do it in project manager. If it can't
handle it, I may be willing to purchase an add-in program. Thanks for
any help.

Pete

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Subject: Soundtool Problem (from cica) help!!!!
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I recently downloaded the Soundtool thingee from cica.cica.indiana.edu.

It looks REALLY COOL, but doesn't 'play'.

It will not install for me. I only have the dopey internal speaker
on my 386. Is that why it doesn't work?
I'd LOVE to get it to work!!

Thanks a LOT in advance!!

0Dan

-Dan
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"I'm a staunch Independant. Every time I think I am a Republican, they
do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, to go and
do someting stupid." - Jay Leno from _60 Minutes_ interview 3/15/1992

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Subject: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
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Have you ever wondered why Microsoft engages in and promotes
discussion about Windows NT while restraining people from discussing
the Windows 3.1 beta (IBM has allowed free and open discussion about
their 2.0 beta)????

Consider the following statements from Microsoft's new "Focus on
Windows":

Unprecedented scope of testing for application compatibility

Full compatibility with applications developed for Windows 3.0
was a critical design goal for Windows version 3.1 (p. 12)


Q. I have a lot of applications I run with Windows 3.0. Will I
be able to run them with Windows 3.1.

A. Yes. Complete compatibility with applications for Windows 3.0
was a design goal for Windows 3.1. (p. 16)

--------------------------

The reality, of course, is that Windows 3.1 is incompatible with
dozens of applications, including Microsoft applications.

The reality is also that Microsoft's marketing reflects cold
blooded, intentional deceit. If MS had any integrity, they would
state the truth: "The ability to run all 3.0 apps was our goal.
We placed a lot of trust in our programming staff to accomplish
this. However, since Chairman Bill originally promised that we
would deliver Windows 3.1 in December *1990*, and since OS/2 2.0
is breathing down our necks and since the aforementioned
chairman would line us all up and shoot us if we delayed it yet
again, we decided to ship it on April 6th, although this means
that we have failed to accomplish *critical* design goals. While
it is in some respects a failure, we think that you all should
upgrade to 3.1 and upgrade all your apps and that you will
really be much happier if you do."

Of course, the MS marketing pukes would jump out of their seats
hard enough to flatten their sculls on the ceiling while dying
of coronary thrombosis on the way up. Hey, we all experience
failure, why should it be so hard for MS to be honest? After
all, about 200 of them have made their million $$$'s already
(that is if they sell their stock soon).

One final note. MS has been trumpeting about how fast True Type
will be and how good it is. However, consider the following, ".
. . Microsoft's Word for Windows and Excel 3.0 and Aldus Corp's
PageMaker 4.0 all produced output errors on test documents" (PC
Week, March 23, page 8). What was that again?? It was fast but
did not produce correct output?? I'm sorry, but comparing the
speed of a program that produces correct output to a program
that does not produce correct output is invalid.

To IBM: If incorporating 3.1 into OS/2 would mean incapabilities
with 3.0 apps, FORGET IT. If True Type does not produce correct
output, FORGET IT. Tell your customers that when MS finally
accomplishes their publicly stated "critical design goals" (and
they have not done that yet), you will provide 3.1 support.

My recommendation: When you get that ugly yellow MS document
telling you the bald faced lies, order your upgrade. When you
get it and you then realize that MS has lied to you, demand that
they fix it or provide a full refund, including shipping. When
MS advises you that what you really need to do is upgrade your
apps, ask them nicely to pay for them. If they refuse a full
refund, write a letter to your Postmaster and tell them about
the mail fraud you have experienced. Put your Federal tax
dollars to work. Then, take your money and buy another copy of a
real OS: OS/2 2.0.
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[email protected] 7246 Cloverglen Dr. Dallas TX 75249

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Subject: Need help finding Great Windows Communications Package
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I am looking for a shareware communications package that has Zmodem and that
doesn't nag you very much when you are trying to load it or are using it. I
would greatly appreciate any replies. Thanks.

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Subject: Re: Stanford Graphics experience
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In article [email protected] (Christy Logan) writes:
>There was some interest on this newsgroup about the new technical
>graphing/presentation program Stanford Graphics. With great
>anticipation, we recently purchased the program. Here's our
>experience with it. (The bottom line for those who don't
>want to read all of this is that we were quite disappointed
>and don't find it to be usable in its present state. It's
>got a lot of promise though).
>
>After installing the program, we had virtually constant UAEs (really--
>they happened about every 5 minutes, no matter what we were doing, even if
>it was just trying to run the "tutorial"). A call to tech support was finally
>returned a day later. When the technician asked about our configuration
>and we told her that we were using 386MAX she said, "I've never heard
>of that." (Hmmmm.) She did admit that people using QEMM were having
>lots of problems also, but when we asked what changes they had had
>to make to get SG to run, she said she didn't know. So basically,
>we were stuck.
>
>Our next step was to strip out 386MAX and just use HIMEM.sys. We
>also got rid of QCACHE at the same time. This substantially (but
>not entirely) reduced the UAEs. However, we were then confronted
>with the program itself. Stanford Graphics *looks* very good.
>It has a nice gallery of graphs that supposedly show you what the
>program is capable of, and we would have been very happy with it
>if it had lived up to that promise. Unfortunately, we found it
>virtually impossible to work with. The documentation is poorly
>written and organized (e.g., they don't really have an index--
>just a list of commands, which means you have to know how to do
>something before you can look up how to do it).
>
>We managed to figure out how to graph some data points, but strange
>and unexpected things would happen when we tried to edit the graph.
>For example, if we tried to delete the symbols on a line graph, it
>might delete all but one of them one time, none another time, and
>all another time. Getting rid of the grid on the graph didn't
>seem to work most of the time. These are just examples of
>things that looked very easy to do--just check a box or not--
>but proved unreliable. We never did manage to create a line
>graph with error bars, which was our original goal.
>
>Other problems: it is SLOW. We have a 40 MHz 386 with 8 MB RAM,
>and coprocessed video, and we found the program painfully slow.
>Part of the reason seemed to be that while you are filling out
>checkboxes to edit graph specs, the program redraws the screen,
>and then redraws it again when you click OK. Another annoyance
>was that in 1024x768, the spreadsheet fonts were too small
>to read comfortably (although everything else was sized
>correctly).
>
>In another conversation with tech support, we were told that
>there will be another fix coming out in two weeks that includes
>online help. The tech agreed that the documentation left some-
>thing to be desired and thought that this would be a great
>improvement. It seems that she has had to walk a lot of people
>through the program to get them started. Unfortunately, she said
>there was no fix in the works for the high resolution spreadsheet
>fonts though.
>
>All in all, we were greatly disappointed--so much so that we
>are sending it back for a refund. It looks like SG has a lot
>of potential, but in its present incarnation it was just not
>usable for us. Maybe by the time they're up to version 2.x
>it will be worth another look. We sure hope so, because they
>are attempting to fill a niche that we would really like to have filled.
>

PC Magazine made similar observations. Just received my copy and call
3-D Visions. Tech stated that the major problem with UAE's was
corrected after about the first 1000 disk sets had been delivered. Mine
should be OK. Addition of the "HELP" capability should mitigate some of
the obscure manual.

Let us hope.

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
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[email protected] (JAMES DORCEY) writes:

>Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microsoft,
>won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure you're
>running MS-DOS 5.0.

Actually, PC Week even had some problems with Excel 3.0, so it
looks like you need to upgrade no matter who made the application.

Robert
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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
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From: [email protected] (Richard Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:03:02 GMT
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In article , [email protected] (Michael Polen) writes:
|> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
|> |> Ok, enough bullshit. Does Microsoft want me to buy
|> |> win 3.1, or do they want me to not buy it because
|> |> it won't run with my operating system?
|> |>
|> Microsoft cannot make a major enhancement to windows that will be compatible
|> with other operating systems such as DRDOS, SCO UNIX, etc because they have
|> no control over them. If they need to enhance DOS or use features that some
|> other OS competitor decided not to be compatible with, to get a better
|> Windows, then I want them to do just that.
|>
|> |> I am torked off because it seems to me that Microsoft
|> |> deliberately made win3.1 incompatible with DRDOS6.0.
|>
|> I wish I was clairvoyant too. I didn't know they did it on purpose.
|>
|> |> If Microsoft wants windows to be an operating system,
|> |> then why in the hell don't they bundle MSDOS5.0 with
|> |> it, and make the two synonymous?
|>
|> Because there are MSDOS5.0 users that don't want/need windows.
|> |>
|> |> Do we have to wait until 4/6 for DRI to admit the
|> |> compatibility problem and then wait for them to
|> |> fix it? AND THEN PAY FOR THE FIX?
|> |>
|> It is DRI's responsibility to be compatible with MSDOS5.0, after all they
|> are the ones that claimed compatibility, not Microsoft.
|>
|> |> I am really quite pissed off about this!
|> |>
|> At DRI? They are the ones that screwed up.
|>
|> |> p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
|> |> let me know. But for now, I'm keeping my money in
|> |> my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until
|> |> this is resolved!
|> |>
|> Misplaced loyaty.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

REALLY? I have been quite loyal (not that I need to be loyal
to any software company except the one I work for...). I
own MS-windows, MS-word for windows, MS-windows game pack,
and many programs completely reliant on MS-windows being there.
I was even considering switching to MS-C/C++7.0 now that Borland
has pissed me off with almost monthly $100 upgrades. I even own
MS-quickC... So don't talk so cheaply about my "loyalty".

DRDOS 6.0 offered many features that I wanted, and I only switched
after much research on compatibility issues. At the time,
DRDOS 6.0 was very viable. MSDOS didn't even come close to the
features.

But I hesitate to regret my move primarily because I am in
the software industry, and have strong feelings about the
uncooperative attitude that these two companies are exhibiting.
This attitude is anti-productive, and only hurts both companies.
Microsoft is losing a windows upgrade sale, and DRI is about to
lose a future upgrade sale. I am very upset with both companies.
(shall we refer to them as big babies?) They are both hurting
their customers. I am caught in the middle, and that is no way

to treat your customers.

This whole mess reminds me of the excuses you hear from the
phone companies when you have a problem with them... they
always blame congress on all your woes because congress
broke-up the phone company. Their final word to your problem
is for you to go out and vote the rascals out. This is not
how you treat your customers. If your customer makes a
decision, you should never reprimand him/her for making the
decision, but instead, you should look at the reasons that
the person made the final decision, and learn from it. It
is very poor practice to make life hell for your customer
merely because your customer decided to use your competition
for one reason or another. If Microsoft REALLY wants to
win DRDOS users over, and have them *SWITCH* back, they
should improve on MS-DOS so that it has all the nice features
of DRDOS, and then bundle it with WIN3.1 so that people like
me can *SWITCH* back economically. But my attitude at this
point is somewhere on the fence... I like what DRDOS is
doing for my system, and I like, and have invested in the
MS-WINDOWS world. I am not willing to go out and replace
my DRDOS with MS-DOS5.0, merely to run WIN3.1, and I am
not willing to buy WIN3.1 until it works with DRDOS.

It would seem to me that Microsoft would be willing to
at least let DRI be a beta site so that DRDOS can keep
current with the windows world. It only hurts Microsoft
when they lock out users like me... I am a very heavy
user of Microsoft products... By being uncooperative
with DRI, they have alienated me. By not admitting or
fixing the problems, DRI has alienated me.

In the end, somebody owes me something. I am not sure
who is ultimately responsible for it, but I do know
that the one who acts first in good faith to fix or
work-around the problem will be the one company that
wins this customers respect. As of now, I don't
respect either company.

--
All comments are hereby disclaimed.
Richard Armstrong Email:[email protected]


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Subject: Re: One supporter of Microsoft
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Brian J Moore)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:31:11 GMT
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In [email protected] (Christy Logan) writes:

>The FedEx 2nd day air was impressive, but I'd prefer to be able
>to walk into a store and buy a quality product in the first place
>instead of being forced to be grateful to MicroSoft for finally
>fixing their errors.

Me too, but ours is not a perfect world. I wish the developers were as perfect
as the users. Then we would only need version 1.0.


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________________________________________________________________________
/ / /
/ Brian J. Moore / [email protected] /
/__________________________________/____________________________________/

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Subject: Re: Need help finding Great Windows Communications Package
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Shiva Shenoy)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:57:06 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris E Donnell) writes:

>I am looking for a shareware communications package that has Zmodem and that
>doesn't nag you very much when you are trying to load it or are using it. I
>would greatly appreciate any replies. Thanks.

Try wnqvt477.zip available at cica, simtel, wuarchive, etc
At cica.cica.indiana.edu it is available in the pub/pc/win3/util directory.


--
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2066 Black, | Office: (515)-294-0082
Dept. of Aero. Engg. & Engg. Mechanics | Home : (515)-296-7640
Iowa State University, Ames, IA 50010 |

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Joe Morris)
Date: 25 Mar 92 19:53:13 GMT
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[email protected] (Michael Levine) writes:

>In article ,
>[email protected] (Kevin Coleman) says:
>>
>>Could someone perhaps fill me in on what the "Windows Resource Kit" is?

[...]

>To order call (800) 642-7676. The price is $14.50 plus applicable sales tax
>and $5.50 freight.

For Windows 3.1, the price is $19.95 plus tax, plus $2.50 s/h.

Joe Morris

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John H. Kim)
Date: 25 Mar 92 22:39:58 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (The News System)
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Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
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In article [email protected] (Michael Polen) writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
>|> Ok, enough bullshit. Does Microsoft want me to buy
>|> win 3.1, or do they want me to not buy it because
>|> it won't run with my operating system?
>|>
>Microsoft cannot make a major enhancement to windows that will be compatible
>with other operating systems such as DRDOS, SCO UNIX, etc because they have
>no control over them.

Step back for a second and think about this. The original poster
is in essence correct. Let's say Microsoft didn't make MS-DOS.
Let's say it was just like every other manufacter of applications
like Lotus, Borland, etc. They look at the market and say to
themselves, "If we want to sell as many copies of Windows as
possible, and to make as much money as possible, we'll have to put
some work into making sure Windows runs on other OSes compatible to
DOS. As a part of this, we'll sign up Digital Research in our beta
program to make sure they can take care of any incompatibilities
between Windows 3.1 and DR-DOS in their next release."

But Microsoft didn't do this -- they wouldn't let DRI join the beta
program for Windows 3.1. You can be sure they tested it to make sure
Windows 3.1 ran under MS-DOS. The original poster is asking for an
explaination to this unusual and monopolistic behavior.

>|> Do we have to wait until 4/6 for DRI to admit the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> compatibility problem and then wait for them to
>|> fix it? AND THEN PAY FOR THE FIX?
>
>It is DRI's responsibility to be compatible with MSDOS5.0, after all they
>are the ones that claimed compatibility, not Microsoft.
>>
>|> I am really quite pissed off about this!
>
>At DRI? They are the ones that screwed up.

You are asserting that DRI's DR-DOS isn't fully compatible with
MS-DOS and so it is DRI's problem. Since the original poster gives
Windows 3.1's release date as the date DRI has to start working for
Windows 3.1 compatibility, he has conceded there is a compatibility
problem with DR-DOS.

What he is upset about is Microsoft's refusal to allow DRI into the
Windows beta program, thus delaying the fix in DR-DOS for several
months. He has trouble believing this was just an oversight on MS's
part because it harms DR-DOS and MS has a motive to do such harm.
--
John H. Kim | (This space to be filled when I
[email protected] | think of something very clever
uunet!jarthur!jokim | to use as a disclaimer)

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Subject: Re: A personal perspective on choosing OS/2 2.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (robert cook)
Date: 25 Mar 92 21:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (R. Kelley Cook)
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In article , [email protected] (David Feustel) writes:
|> I agree with the above posting. I'm not buying any more windows or dos
|> software.
|> --
|> David Feustel N9MYI, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805. (219)482-9631
|> = Candidate Bush wouldn't recognize principle if he were standing upon it =

Ditto. I've used the same computer (25mhx 386DX) running WP for Windows
under Win 3.0 and a beta (read slower) of 32-bit WP for OS/2 running under
a beta (6.177) of OS/2 2.0. I find WP for Win unacceptably slow, so I don't
use it. The 32bit OS/2 version was very snappy and like all multithreaded
OS/2 programs, there was never an hourglass, even when printing. Since
I have a license to use WP for OS/2 is included my hardly used copy of WP
for Win that was a "freebie" when buying my computer from the campus store,
I get a better system without paying anything extra.

I see no reason to pay $50 to get an 18 month late bug fix called Windows
3.1, when for $99 (current cost of OS/2 1.3 w/free upgrade to 2.0)
My 386 can have a new operating system that takes full advantage of
its capabilities without sacrificing the ability to run all the
software I currently own. Plus, like WordPerfect, (and much to my
dismay unlike Microsoft) IBM releases free bug fixes and additions
(called CSDs) to their products every couple of months.

P.S. I have no connection with IBM, but I am damn impressed with their
product.

Flame me if you feel its nessecary, but please on flame on facts only, not
"I like Windows and I am not going to switch, so don't post to *our*
newsgroup about your dumb OS/2." I used to use Windows and enjoyed it
except for the UAEs and slow printing, but I have found something vastly
superior for a cheaper list price. Am I going to switch, you bet.

Should you? If you have a 386sx or better with a least 6 megs of memory
and 30 megs of free HD space, I would strongly encourage it. (These
are not the minimum requirements, BTW, OS/2 2.0 will run in only 3 megs of
memory, but the beta was slow with 4 megs, when 4 megs more ($140) were
put in, it really became quite useful. Then again Windows only "requires" 1
meg of memory 🙂 )

--
Robert Kelley Cook [email protected]
Univ. of Notre Dame
Physics Dept. If you think these are ND opinions, speak to the pope!

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Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Jim Bailey)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 19:04:06 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Jim Bailey)
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In article [email protected] (From A to B) writes:

> OS/2, you say? Sure. But I want an OS that only needs a few MB of
> RAM and disk space to run, and which will run happily on a machine
> small enough to fit in a briefcase.

Actually, System 7 and OS/2, 1.3 at least, both need about 4 meg to
run comfortably. I don't use OS/2 anymore, so I don't know about 2.0.
--
"The Beatles were elevator music in my lifetime 'Yummy Yummy Yummy (I've Got
Love In My Tummy)' had more impact on me" -- Michael Stipe of R.E.M.
[email protected]

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Subject: DOS windows, enhanced vs standard
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Frank Cunningham)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:45:35 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Frank Cunningham)
Distribution: comp
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From an earlier posting, I understood that since one could run
multiple DOS windows in enhanced mode, each one should open in a
sizable window.

My problem is that if running in standard, DOS won't open at all
and I get a mumble.gbr (grabber) not found message.

If I run in what I believe to be enhanced mode, DOS opens OK and
behaves itself, but takes the entire screen.

What am I missing ?

thanks,

--
-Frank Cunningham

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Subject: Corel Draw Printing
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Frank Cunningham)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:49:30 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Frank Cunningham)
Distribution: comp
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What would lead Corel Draw to believe that the printing setup was not
enabled when WFW, Pagemaker, Ansel, and Windows 3.0 all believe that it
exists, and print properly ?

It's a QMS laser system on lpt2.

--
-Frank Cunningham [email protected]



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Subject: Re: Soundtool Problem (from cica) help!!!!
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Dan Stephenson)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 05:01:12 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Anonymous NNTP Posting)
References:
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Keywords: it doesn't seem to work
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[email protected] (Dan Stephenson) writes:

>I recently downloaded the Soundtool thingee from cica.cica.indiana.edu.

>It looks REALLY COOL, but doesn't 'play'.

>It will not install for me. I only have the dopey internal speaker
>on my 386. Is that why it doesn't work?
>I'd LOVE to get it to work!!

>Thanks a LOT in advance!!

Ahem. I've read a bit and figured out what I was doing wrong.
Now, with great exception of the Macintosh reference, I think I've got
things handled. Thanks anyway.

_Dan
.


>-Dan
>.

>--
>Daniel Anthony Stephenson [email protected] [email protected]
>"I'm a staunch Independant. Every time I think I am a Republican, they
> do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, to go and
>do someting stupid." - Jay Leno from _60 Minutes_ interview 3/15/1992

--
Daniel Anthony Stephenson [email protected] [email protected]
"I'm a staunch Independant. Every time I think I am a Republican, they
do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, to go and
do someting stupid." - Jay Leno from _60 Minutes_ interview 3/15/1992


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Subject: Re: MS Windows 3.1 ORDERS BEING TAKEN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Lui Sieh)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 04:48:01 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected]
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In article [email protected] (Jonas Fogelberg) writes:
>[stuff about Windows 3.1 being "revealed" deleted]
>
>Someone whispered in my ear - Windows 3.1 will be "unofficially launched"
>at PC World Expo in Stockholm, Sweden March 23-25. YES! Sweden first!

I just received an offer to upgrade to MS Windows 3.1 for $69.95. It is
upon us.
--
//Lui Sieh
Dum loquimur, fugerit invida Aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum postero.
Horace, Odes, I.xi.7;<-- "Why post to USENET?" -Brian O. Indeed.
What about my opinions? ==>> /dev/nullor [email protected]

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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Windows comp
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Lui Sieh)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 04:52:53 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
frank.kennedy%[email protected] (Frank Kennedy) writes:
>Why not see about plugging an 80386 SX chip in the location where the
>present 80286 is? I know that is an expense, but I believe OS/2 will
>run on a 386SX..and the 386SX supposedly will replace an 80286.

Will OS/2 run on a 386/SX? You bet. In fact, I saw it run on such a
beast with 8 Megs of Ram and you know what? It was faster than my machine,
a 386/33 w/64K cache and 8 Megs of Ram running Windows 3.0. I'm impressed.
I'll be looking at OS/2 closely in the future.

I'm glad I read all the stuff about OS/2 vs MS windows already from this
group :-).


--
//Lui Sieh
Dum loquimur, fugerit invida Aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum postero.
Horace, Odes, I.xi.7;<-- "Why post to USENET?" -Brian O. Indeed.
What about my opinions? ==>> /dev/nullor [email protected]

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Subject: Wave-sound driver for internal PC speaker
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 02:43:54 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Russell Sutherland Dean's Office)
Organization: Psychology, U. of Toronto
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Someone posted a message last week that there
was a driver in one of the 3.1 beta's that would
output wave sound through the pc speaker. I am a
beta tester and have versions R1, and R3-61d, neither
of them have the driver. I spoke to Microsoft today
and they said that the driver did get put into some
builds, but they were not sure which ones!

Could the person who posted the message let me know
which build I need to look in to find the driver?
Thanks,
--
Andrew

Andrew Fountain [email protected]

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Subject: Using Windows .BMP files with OS/2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dan Montroy)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 05:53:40 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Does anyone know how to do this? I have some files I got for my Windows
system, but when I tried to use them on an OS/2 machine, the picture didn't
change. Maybe this is a secret plot by Microsoft to bomb OS/2, but maybe not.
Can someone help?

Dan Montroy


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Subject: Color Printing in Windows 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ken K. Lambach)
Date: 25 Mar 92 19:44:45 GMT
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Has anyone successfully printed color graphics from Windows 3.0
Paintbrush ? I recently added the color option to my Panasonic
KX-P2180 printer. It prints its self test and sample color documents
from Ami Pro in color, but anything from Paintbrush prints in only
blue. I am using the standard Epson 9-pin drivers which support
color and are part of the Windows 3.0 release.

Is there something I must do to tell Paintbrush to print in color
other than select the color option for the printer driver ?
--

Ken Lambach
Telxon Corp Akron, Ohio
uunet!telxon!kenl

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Andrew BW Colfelt)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 06:30:04 GMT
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Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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[email protected] (Kevin Coleman) writes:


>Could someone perhaps fill me in on what the "Windows Resource Kit" is?

The resource kit conatains everything
you ever wanted to know, but were afraid
ask, or was not mentioned on the Net.

The WinResourceKit takes up where the
manual left off; gives tips on memory
management, system optimization,
descriptions of the various modes (real,
standard, enhanced), and other tricks.

If you're incredibly anal about $19,
forget the effort. On the other hand,
if you like to get all the information
you can about Windows, spring for the
extra cost. The 3.0 kit was ~$15,
which I purchased (and couldn't believe
the low cost, given the nice binder
and over 360pp. of information), and I
suspect there will be some redundancy in
the 3.1 kit, but you never know....

I guess those MS marketers' brainwashing
is still as effective as ever...

I recommend it, even if it only serves to
demonstrate how much of a Windows Master
you really are!



--
Andrew
[email protected]
--

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Subject: Re: allocating large arrays under BC++ 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Marius Kjeldahl)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 92 18:44:42 GMT
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Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
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Well, no problem. Just compile your program using small or medium memory model.
For allocating the big array (512x512) use Windows GlobalAlloc function (it
works for allocating arrays larger than 64K).

Since GlobalAlloc returns a handle, you obviously want be able to manipulate
the bits and bytes in the array. The way to do this is to declare a huge pointer,
. Before manipulating the elements in the array, set this pointer with the
GlobalLock (eg. MyPointer=GlobalLock(Handle)). Then you can manipulate the items
in your array freely, and since your pointer is of the huge type, it will take
care of the segment arithmetic for you. Remeber to GlobalUnlock the handle when
you are done manipulating the items in your huge array..

Marius..

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Subject: UAE Problem...... (Yuk!)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (wei-yun yu)
Date: 26 Mar 92 07:37:42 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Keywords: windows' UAE, file group.
Summary: File Group causes UAE at startup of window.
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Hi Netters,
I recently started to use windows 3.0. I've experienced many
problems with it. Today just as I bootup windows, the UAE message shows
up. First I figure maybe the DOS program I ran caused some memory problem?
So, I reboot it(Ctrl-Alt-Esc). Doesn't help at all. So, I shut down the
computer and compeletely reboot the machine. Nope! Still doesn't help.
As I take a closer look at the file group (named utility) one of the Icon
was messed-up (weir looking trash like icon). So I guess, it (UAE) probably
has something to do with this icon.
I go under the windows directory and deleted the utility.grp under
the win.ini file. Guess what happened?
The UAE was gone!!! It saved me some time to re-install windows 3.0 again.
Well, I guess I did the right thing. Or else why did the UAE
message disappear? For those windows EXPERTS, did I resolve this problem
correctly? If not what I must do to correct this type of UAE? Could
someone tell me about ways to deal with UAE problem?

Thanks
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University of California Riverside
[email protected]
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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Brian CAPSON)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 04:23:56 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Netnews Administrator)
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Keywords: Cooperative Spirit NOT!
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In article <1992Mar25.2[email protected]> [email protected] (R. Kelley Cook) writes:
>In article , [email protected] (Michael Polen) writes:
>|> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
>
>|> |> I am really quite pissed off about this!
>|> |>
>|> At DRI? They are the ones that screwed up.
>|>
>|> |> p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
>|> |> let me know. But for now, I'm keeping my money in
>|> |> my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until
>|> |> this is resolved!
>|> |>
>|> Misplaced loyaty.
>
>Not nessacarily, MS would not let DRI enroll in the Windows 3.1 beta
>program when they would let *anyone* else who forked over money to be
>in it. If they would have, then Digital Research probably could
>have corrected their problem (yes it is DRI's problem) earlier.

You better get your facts straight first. Microsoft didn't charge anyone
a cent to be a part of their Beta tests, in fact they gave everyone a
free Compuserve subscription to allow better communication. No company
is obliged to reveal privy information to their competitors, and that is
what DRI is, their competitors. DRI has made it no secret that they are
planning to try to clone windows, so why should Microsoft give them a
head start by allowing them to use pre-release software? If DRI had done
a decent job of providing MSDOS compatability in the first place, which
is THEIR responsibility, then the point would be moot.


- Brian Capson
McGill University
Monreal, Quebec


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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Doug Pierce)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 06:26:48 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Keywords: Cooperative Spirit NOT!
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I want to bat that DR is going to be quick about fixing the problem. Digital
Research really seems to care about their product, as opposed to Microsoft. I
don't think DR DOS 6.0 users really have much to worry about.


Doug

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Subject: Re: WinQVTnet... What is it?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Thomas Farmer)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 20:32:57 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.
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In article <459[email protected]> [email protected] (Dan Shipley) writes:
>What exactly is WinQVTnet? Is it a network operating system like NetWare, or
>is it designed to sit on top of it? Is it shareware? Where can I get it?
>What are its capabilities?
>
>I'll be setting up a network of about 8 PC's using 10baseT ethernet in about
>a month. This will be my "first time" doing network stuff. The Pc's will be
>primarily running Windoze applications. Any information reguarding WinQVTnet
>or any other helpful hints (like what network operating system you think I
>should use, useful utilities, etc.) would be much appreciated.

QVTNet is a Windows based application that provides certain network
services. These include terminals, FTP, RCP and remote printing.

The only other component you need is the Crynwr (Clarkson) packet
driver for your particular card. I can't remember whether these are
freely available or shareware.



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Subject: Re: Help compiler ?! - MS move into the 1990s !
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Gary Dietz)
Date: 26 Mar 92 06:20:25 GMT
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> discussion of the sucktitude of the MS help compiler

Agreed. It bites the weenie. But I've been using RoboHelp from Blue Sky
software out of San Diego. It is overpriced ($495), and just a set of macros
and a DLL for WinWord. . . But boy does it help speed up keeping track of
hypertext links and topics.

I hope that someone comes up with a REAL help system soon that will work
along with all of the 3.0 and 3.1 apps and can easily move source text
between OS/2 help as well. . .

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Subject: Re: Windows desktop .bmp file. Which format works? (rle 8 etc.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Lars Riisboel)
Date: 25 Mar 92 16:32:53 GMT
References: <1992Mar15.[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: RC International, Copenhagen, Denmark
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[email protected] (Martin Heller) writes:

>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Knapp) writes:
>>
>>Ok, I've had it. I'm trying to put up some .gifs converted to .bmp for
>>my windows background, but just about any choice I make gives a UAE or
>>crashes my system. I won't go into my feelings about MS right now...
>>Can someone tell me which .bmp format works, and which doesn't, and why?

>Use the RGB format only for Windows 3.0 wallpaper. For Windows 3.1 you can
>use the RLE formats if you wish.

Some Windows drivers crashes when a 1024x768 wallpaper is loaded. Change
the size to 1024x769 and the wallpaper will load.

Lars R. Petersen, ICL Data A/S, Denmark [email protected]

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Subject: Re: Egghead: Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Renee Linda Roberts)
Date: 25 Mar 92 19:06:08 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
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Well, with Win 3.0, we had a list of over 200 bugs. Some were fixed with 3.0a,
but the majority were still there. Most of these are "minor" and don't cause
any problems per se (Screen doesn't update properly that doesn't interfere
with operation). Most of the rest seem to be fixed in 3.1, but I have found
NEW ONES. It is this list that will be out when I am done. I haven't found
that many.

BTW, Inside source says Egghead will be selling 3.1 for $79.99.

Renee Roberts

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Subject: The Windows 3.1 Casualty List
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Chuck)
Date: 26 Mar 92 02:33:28 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] ()
Organization: Silma, Inc. Cupertino CA
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This is from the March 23rd issue of PC WEEK.
It includes a list of software that "... may
experience application errors, problems resizing
windows and printing files. User will either
have to go to the application vendors to obtain
upgrades or have to change system configuration
options ...."

The list apparently was taken directly from the
Windows 3.1 on-line help system. Here is the
list:

Ace Software AceFile
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe TypeAlign
Aldus Freehand 3.0
Aldus Presentation
Aldus Persuasion
Bitstream Facelift 1.2
Borland C 3.0 WInsight
Campbell Services On Time 1.0
Central Point Software PC Tools
Channel Computing Forest and Trees 2.0a
Claris Hollywood
Coda Finale
Computer Support Arts & Letters
Computer Support Picture Wizard
First Byte Monologue for Windows
hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
HP New Wave
Lotus Ami Pro
Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
Microsoft Powerpoint 2.0e
Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
NBI Legacy
Norton Desktop 1.0
PFS: Window Works
Powersoft Powerbuilder 1.0
SofNet FAXit for Windows
SPC Harvard Graphics for Windows
WordPerfect for Windows
WordStar for Windows


Summary:

Included in the list are:
2 of the most popular Windows Word Processors
(Ami Pro and WordPerfect for Windows)
3 of the most popular drawing/illustration packages
(Adobe Illustrator, Aldus Freehand, Arts & Letters)
The most popular shell/utilites
(NDW, PC Tools)
3 popular Windows presentation packages
(Hollywood, Powerpoint, Harward Graphics for Windows)
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Silma Inc
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Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for Windows, Windows 3.1, and NDW
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dick Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 23:01:58 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
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"if the TPW-compiled program tries to open a child window...
"it seems to work fine when NDW isn't running"

I saw a discussion on this in the PC Magnet forum on CompuServe..
apparently NDW subclasses windows belonging to other programs
which is not a good design choice. OWL programs subclass their
*own* windows, actually most programs subclass their own windows
it's a very basic technique. The problem is that OWL compiled
"waits a bit longer to do the subclassing, doesn't do it in the
initialization. But that ain't OWL's fault". Rubenking, PC Magazine editor, commenting on CompuServe.

Dick


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Subject: Serious Problem STACKER 2.0 on Toshiba - URGENT!!d !!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ari Heikkinen)
Date: 26 Mar 92 08:39:50 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Organization: U of Tampere, Institute for Extension Studies
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I have Toshiba 5100 laptop with 40 Mb hard-disk, 2 Mb RAM. Some weeks ago
there was appr. 2 Mb free space on hard-disk, so I installed Stacker 2.0.
I made some arrangement and installed stacker useing option hard-disk
full of data (didn't format hardis) and left approx 3 Mb un-stacked space.
I put on this space Windows 3.0 permanent swap-file and some device-stuff.
Everything went quit well some 2 weeks. One morning when booted, there was
announcment that hard-disk is read- only!!! Didnt't mount some ID with Stacker.
Boot was succeeding only useing floppy. There has been no way to write on
hard-disk!! I tried Sattrib with option -R to stacvol.dsk and other
doctorial tools coming with Stacker, no way to succeed!! So I used Sremove
to take off stacker. Stacked disk vanished, but the problem didn't.
No I have tryied to low-level format hard-disk with QA-PLUS and CheckIt.
QA-PLUS is trying but just give up without any message. CheckIt's message
is BIOS ERROR : 4. Seems that Stacker's Write protection is excellent!!
WHAT THE HELL CAN I NOW DO ?????????????????????????????????
Changes BIOS ??, changes hard-disk. There is no error message when
testing hard-disk. It seems to be okay!! Is there any real disk-formatter
which just do the job in spite of write-protection. Or is the problem
in BIOS. Stacker has manipulated BIOS??

Please, all information is wellcome and as soon as possible!!!!!!!!!!!
Send to [email protected] (e-mail) or to this group.
If answeres send directly to me, i'll make a summary to group.

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Subject: Re: DAMN Trident 8900C Drivers
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ed van Leeuwen)
Date: 26 Mar 92 08:53:04 GMT
References: <1992Mar23.234517.277[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Distribution: comp.windows.ms
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
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[email protected] (Juha-Matti Liukkonen) writes:

>In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark A. Holtz) writes:

>>I am currently trying to install some drivers for a Trident 8900C
>>card for a client who has just installed windows. I promised him,
>>"The latest drivers, downloaded from Trident's BBS, will allow you
>>to run Windows at a nice higher resolution." What I got was a
>>headache the size of Texas.

>>After installing a driver (800x600x256), I started up windows in
>>Enhanced mode. No dice, the VDDT___.386 was corrupted. Never mind
>>that it's the third fresh copy from the archive I uploaded. Then,
>>in Standard mode, it still won't run.

>There's something strange OK with the new Trident drivers... I FTP'd a
>new driver set from cica, dated Feb 92 (the ones that came with my 9000
>card are June 91, I think) - and no can do, Windows just wouldn't even
>start with them...

>The older ones work fine up to 1024x768x256, I just thought that the
>newer ones might be even a bit speedier. I'll probably never know 🙁

I have downloaded the drivers and they work fine. Please check
the installation procedure, as that is not obvious.



Regards,

Ed.
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FEL-TNO | TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
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Subject: 486-33, AMI BIOS and FASTDISK...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Changhao Boh)
Date: 26 Mar 92 10:00:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Lines: 36

Hi, I've the following equipment...

a. 486-33mhz motherboard with

SYMPHONY chip set.

a. SL82C461 System Controller.
b. SL82C362 Bus Controller.
c. SL82C465 Cache Controller.

AMI 486DX BIOS dated 050591.

b. No name IDE paddle card for 2 floppy and 2 Harddisk.

Harddisk 1 (Master)

Quantum LPS105AT with 2300 DiskCache BIOS.

Harddisk 2 (Slave)

Seagate ST157A.

My problem is that the computer refuse to boot after the initial POST if I
DON'T enable the ROM Shadowing function. However, this only happens when the
computer is running at 33Mhz (Turbo mode). When switched to 16Mhz mode,
everything's fine.

The same thing happens when I attemp to use Micro$oft Windows 3.1's FASTDISK
driver. It gives a WDCRTL fatal error at 33Mhz but runs fine at 16Mhz.

WHY ???

Thanks in advance. Good Health.

Changhao


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Subject: DDE in applications
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (michel voors)
Date: 26 Mar 92 09:51:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise bv, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Keywords: DDE
Summary: How to determine which DDE an app understands
Lines: 24

I am interested in the DDE interfaces of 3rd party applications on using for
exaple their file functions (Open, Print), but I cannot find anything at all
on this in the documentation of the applications I have available.
I have e.g. WordPerfect for Windows, Amipro, Lotus 1-2-3, Lotus FreeLance
Graphics, CorelDRAW, Superbase4.

In the Excel documentation I found something, and the Technical Reference of
Word for Windows also covers this topic.
But for the other applications I cannot find anything in the documentation,
although I know that Amipro talks DDE, since in the Windows 3.1
registration database DDE is used.

So how can I find out what DDE I can use with an application?
Am I missing something in the documentation?
Is there maybe a DDE request that I can make to an app to tell me its
vocabulary?
Any info is more than welcome.
Kind regards,

*****************************************************************************
* Michel Voors INTERNET : [email protected] *
* Digital Equipment Enterprise COMPUSERVE : 100034,111 *
* Apeldoorn Netherlands *
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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Upgrade for Logitech Owners...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Mark A. Holtz)
Date: 26 Mar 92 05:21:56 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Article-I.D.: sactoh0.1992Mar26.052156.5730
Lines: 13

In <[email protected]> [email protected] ("James F. Van Leeuwen") writes:
>I purchased a Logitech Series 15 Mouse with Windows 3.0 a while back. I'm
>interested to know who I go to for the upgrade to version 3.1 of Windows. I
>haven't gotten around to calling Logitech or Microsoft, so any help would be
>appreciated.

Microsoft. I got their focus on windows rag, even though the
windows I purchased was from Logitech.
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Subject: WORDPERFECT HEADER PROBLEM! HELP! HELP!
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Dan Stephenson)
Date: 26 Mar 92 11:18:13 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Anonymous NNTP Posting)
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Keywords: wordperfect, header
Summary: I cannot supress the firt page header
Article-I.D.: nasa14.dano.701608693
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I have WordPerfect for Windows.

I have a question and I'd LOE for any of you folks to clue me in,...

You see,... I wanty to have headers on all the pages of my document,..
EXCEPT the first page. There, I wanna SUPRESS the header,..but watch
out! You can't!! Surprise!

So, does anyone KNOW how to supress that danged header???? Same me
some time one the phine listening to muzak???Please??? ^v^

Thanks bazillions in advance!

-Dan
.

--
Daniel Anthony Stephenson [email protected] [email protected]
"I'm a staunch Independant. Every time I think I am a Republican, they
do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, to go and
do someting stupid." - Jay Leno from _60 Minutes_ interview 3/15/1992

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Christophe J Bogdon)
Date: 26 Mar 92 12:32:22 GMT
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I'm trying to find an ftp site that has True Type fonts! Can anyone
out there help me! THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Chris

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Subject: Winspeed from PC/Computing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Gerald Greenberg)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 92 17:40:12 EST
References:
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Keywords: winspeed, utility
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Does anybody know if a program called WinSpeed.exe, which is
discussed in the April issue of PC Computing, is available via
ftp? This program is described as a "free Windows performance
measurement utility".
Thanks,
Gerry
[email protected]



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Subject: ATM 2.0 vs. Facelift 2.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Kirk Snyder)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 13:16:45 GMT
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Organization: New York University
Keywords: ATM Facelift
Summary: Is Facelift better than ATM
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I've seen lots of ATM 2.0 bashing on this newsgroup, but like many
others I have a heavy investment in type one fonts that I am not
yet willing to write-off. About a week ago I got a flyer from
Bitstream describing a number of their products. One of these is
Facelift 2.0 for Windows, scheduled for release in March. The
flyer says it will support type one fonts. My question is: is this
a drop-in replacement for ATM? Any reason to think it will be
superior?

Facelift comes with 16 fonts. Are these still in speedo format, or
is Bitstream using type one now? I assume they are not truetype,
since in a few weeks no separate rasterizer will be necessary for
truetype.

Thanks in advance.

-- Kirk Snyder
[email protected]


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Subject: Serious Problem STACKER 2.0- Urgent HELP needed !!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Ari Heikkinen)
Date: 26 Mar 92 11:54:07 GMT
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I have Toshiba 5100 laptop with 40 Mb hard-disk, 2 Mb RAM. Some weeks ago
there was appr. 2 Mb free space on hard-disk, so I installed Stacker 2.0.
I made some arrangement and installed stacker useing option hard-disk
full of data (didn't format hardis) and left approx 3 Mb un-stacked space.
I put on this space Windows 3.0 permanent swap-file and some device-stuff.
Everything went quit well some 2 weeks. One morning when booted, there was
announcment that hard-disk is read- only!!! Didnt't mount some ID with Stacker.
Boot was succeeding only useing floppy. There has been no way to write on
hard-disk!! I tried Sattrib with option -R to stacvol.dsk and other
doctorial tools coming with Stacker, no way to succeed!! So I used Sremove
to take off stacker. Stacked disk vanished, but the problem didn't.
No I have tryied to low-level format hard-disk with QA-PLUS and CheckIt.
QA-PLUS is trying but just give up without any message. CheckIt's message
is BIOS ERROR : 4. Seems that Stacker's Write protection is excellent!!
WHAT THE HELL CAN I NOW DO ?????????????????????????????????
Changes BIOS ??, changes hard-disk. There is no error message when
testing hard-disk. It seems to be okay!! Is there any real disk-formatter
which just do the job in spite of write-protection. Or is the problem
in BIOS. Stacker has manipulated BIOS??

Please, all information is wellcome and as soon as possible!!!!!!!!!!!
Send to [email protected] (e-mail) or to this group.
If answeres send directly to me, i'll make a summary to group.

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Nico de Vries.)
Date: 26 Mar 92 12:57:51 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
<1992Mar25[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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In <1992Mar26.0423[email protected]> [email protected] (Brian CAPSON) writes:

>...
>You better get your facts straight first. Microsoft didn't charge anyone
>a cent to be a part of their Beta tests, in fact they gave everyone a
>free Compuserve subscription to allow better communication. No company
>is obliged to reveal privy information to their competitors, and that is
>what DRI is, their competitors. DRI has made it no secret that they are
>planning to try to clone windows, so why should Microsoft give them a
>head start by allowing them to use pre-release software? If DRI had done
>a decent job of providing MSDOS compatability in the first place, which
>is THEIR responsibility, then the point would be moot.


>- Brian Capson
> McGill University
> Monreal, Quebec

Are you actualy believing this Microsoft propaganda or do you realy KNOW this.
Don't forget the features in MS-DOS 5.0 are cloned from DR-DOS 5.0 in the
first place! Don't forget who designed DOS in the first place (DR). Just
the fact that Microsoft has a good propaganda department shouldn't make you
blind for what is happening here. Look at the Windows 3.1 casualties list
(on which DR-DOS 6.0 isn't even mentioned). Looks like fair competition
doesn't it!


Nico de Vries ([email protected] NEW ADRESS!)

#include - O Don't
Complaints about my spelling to DEV/NUL please. | worry,
This is a private (ACCU) acount and I don't speak for BITECH. \_/ be happy!

"Sometimes I make a joke. Sorry for that, I didn't mean to."

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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Robert F. Solomon)
Date: 26 Mar 1992 09:00 EST
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>Consider the following statements from Microsoft's new "Focus on
>Windows":
>
>Full compatibility with applications developed for Windows 3.0
>was a critical design goal for Windows version 3.1 (p. 12)
>--------------------------

I have no problem with this.

>
>The reality, of course, is that Windows 3.1 is incompatible with
>dozens of applications, including Microsoft applications.
>
>
>.. . Microsoft's Word for Windows and Excel 3.0 and Aldus Corp's
>PageMaker 4.0 all produced output errors on test documents" (PC
>Week, March 23, page 8).

The above statements refer to the 3/23 issue of PC Week. When were the
tests run? Obviously, they were run before 3/23. So which version of
Windows was used. Was it a beta or the release version. I called tech
support for one of the apps I use regularly since it was on the list. (No,
it wasn't an MS app). They said that all their tests with the RELEASE
version showed no problems. There was a problem with an earlier beta
version, but that was corrected. I suspect similar resolution of the other
problems.

>
If they refuse a full
>refund, write a letter to your Postmaster and tell them about
>the mail fraud you have experienced. Put your Federal tax
>dollars to work.

Come on. Get real.

Then, take your money and buy another copy of a
>real OS: OS/2 2.0.
>--
AHA!! So the truth comes out. It's another attack by the OS/2 clan. This
newsgroup is a good avenue for the exchange of information. But too often,
we see too much "My OS is sent by god and all others are to be cast into
eternal damnation."

Give me your mailing address and I'll send you $.25 to buy a clue.

I use windows and I like it. I have used others (UNIX and mainframe stuff),
but they are not useful FOR THE TASKS I NEED TO DO TO DO MY JOB. If people
can get their job done with what ever they are using, I think that is all
that is necessary.

If you don't like what Windows 3.1 offers, don't buy it.

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Subject: Clarkson Packet Driver and Windows 3.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Torben Friis)
Date: 26 Mar 92 12:36:17 GMT
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Topic: Windows 3 and the Clarkson Packet Drivers (ver. 9.x)

We would like to know if there are any problems in accessing the Clarkson
Packet Drivers from a Windows 3 program - and if there are problems, what
the problems are and hopefully how to solve them.

The problem we are most concerned with is whether Windows will choke when
a program issues a software interrupt. We should add that Windows must run
in Standard mode.

Best regards

Torben

P.S.: We would be most happy if you could answer quickly. Our deadline is
Friday at noon (CET).

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Subject: Review of OpenConnect TN3270
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Christopher Sacksteder
Date: Thursday, 26 Mar 1992 09:27:46 EST
Organization: Penn State University
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DYNACOMM/OPENCONNECT TN3270 FOR WINDOWS 3.20.12D

SUMMARY

This package contains a Telnet-3270 with advanced features for session
automation. It works with a number of different vendor's TCP/IP
"stacks", such as FTP Software's TCP/IP packet drivers. A very large
and powerful script language is not well documented and not easy to
use. The 3270 emulation is generally good. Sessions can be setup with
customized keyboard mappings and colors, and a wide variety of fonts
can be chosen. File transfer uses the host IND$FILE command; the user
interface is primitive. The version reviewed had several serious
problems in my environment, and many minor problems. If the next
release has most of the problems fixed, this could be an exciting
product.


COMPARED TO RUMBA

Rumba 3.1, reviewed earlier this year, is a competing product.
Compared to Rumba, this package has:

(pro)
-- better fonts (more and nicer)
-- slightly better color mapping interface
-- a better keyboard mapping interface
-- better control and selection of terminal types
-- definable mouse buttons
-- support for many more vendors' TCP/IP "stacks"
-- buttons on custom keypads that can have different sizes and colors
-- a far more sophisticated script (macro) language that is (con)
correspondingly difficult to figure out

(con)
-- a larger TSR to interface with the TCP/IP stack (44k vs. 23k)
-- no support for DFT coax connections (important to a few, me)
-- complicated procedures to customize
-- no "hot spots"
-- no 3179G emulation
-- a limit of 4 simultaneous sessions
-- a limit of one custom keypad open at a time
-- more problems and rough edges.


VENDOR

OpenConnect Systems
2033 Chennault Drive
Carrollton, Texas 75006
214-490-4090 Fax: 214-490-5052.
Corporate Sales (Penn State): Chris D. Dunn (214) 490-4090, [email protected]
COST

List Price $495.00; 20-49 Users $351.00 each; Eductional Discount 10%.


THIS EVALUATION

Equipment used was an IBM PS/2 95 XP 486 (25mhz), with 8Mb memory, XGA
Display Adapter (1Mb memory), IBM 8515 display, IBM 4/16 TokenRing
card, and IBM 3270 emulation card. Pertinent software: IBM DOS 5.0, MS
Windows 3.0a, FTP Software PC/TCP 2.05. Windows display driver was IBM
XGA version 1.2, installed with 8515 fonts (resolution 1024x768x256).
Shell is Norton Desktop for Windows.

Host systems tried: VM and AS/400.


DOCUMENTATION

The evaluation package came only with a "Communications Configuration
Guide". This seems fairly complete, but I did not need use it. The
help files seem fairly complete.

We later received copies of additional manuals. There is a very
large users guide and a large manual for the script language. The
script language manual is hard to use. Many of the command are for
other products, and are labeled with notes like "Macintosh Editions
Only". Although it is understandable that they do not wish to produce
different manuals for the same basic language, there are so many
entries that do not apply to this product that the manual is much
larger than need be. Unfortunately, the on-line help also includes
the extraneous information, which should be excluded.


SUPPORT

I did not contact their Customer Support Group; I was supported
(vigorously and expertly) by one of their corporate sales managers,
via electronic mail (and a few faxes).


INSTALLATION

The interface is very nice; it shows disk space for various selectable
components and total amount needed (3.8 megs). A directory and 7
subdirectories are created; 5 subdirectories are empty, and one has
only a "readme" file. I find this annoying, and would rather it
created the directories when needed.

A program group is created with 8 icons -- the basic program plus
several scripts.

The package needs a "TCP/IP stack" provided by another vendor; a
variety are supported. I use the FTP Software packet driver for Token
Ring. Another TSR must be loaded before starting Windows. The one
that interfaces with FTP's drivers takes 44.8K, but can be loaded with
a WINSTART.BAT, so memory is not taken away from DOS windows.


ENVIRONMENT

There is a workspace or application window that contains 1 to 4
session windows and other subordinate windows. This has a menu bar
on top and a status bar on bottom. Windows that appear inside the
workspace are the terminal sessions, an editor for scripts or memos,
and various dialogs.

On one hand, it is nice to be able to minimize all sessions at
once, but sometimes I'd rather have the sessions windows independent
of the session manager.


TERMINAL EMULATION

IBM 3278 or 3279, models 2-5, with or without extended highlighting,
are emulated. No host graphics capabilities are available now, but
they will be soon. The emulation does not have any "Entry assist"
features, such as word tab or word wrap. No "Yale null processing"
is provided.

You are limited to 4 sessions; this may be a problem for some people,
but would be sufficient for many.


CUSTOMIZATION

There are a variety of settings that can be changed and saved; the
procedure is confusing at first. Some are for the whole "application
window" or "workspace" (all four sessions), some apply to individual
sessions, and some can be set for either an individual session or all
sessions. It wasn't clear at first how it all works together.

Screen Colors -- confusing to setup. There is a "Color Editor"
accessed via the "Settings" menu, but you have to assign the color map
via the menu path Window:Attachments:Color Map, not the Settings menu
as one would think.

Fonts -- a variety of fonts and sizes can be selected. You can select
multiple sizes for a font, and the appropriate size is used as you
shrink or expand the window. One very nice feature are buttons on the
bottom of the application window that jump the session window size in
correlation with the next size font.


KEYBOARD MAPPING

I had a frustrating time trying to change the keyboard map. However,
remapping keys is "intuitive, once you learn how". It may be the most
convenient of all remapping schemes I've seen, although it was hardest
to discover. You simply drag the 3270 key onto the PC key with the
*RIGHT* mouse button.

Once keys were remapped, they didn't take effect as I expected.
Under the WINDOWS menu (not SETTINGS), you choose the ATTACHMENTS item
to assign the keyboard layout to the session. This changes the keys
immediately, but temporarily. For a permanent change, you choose
SETTINGS/WORKSPACE and give the name the key map file; those keys will
be define for all sessions the NEXT time they are opened.


MOUSE SETTINGS

Either mouse button, single or double click, can be set to one of four
functions: position the cursor, do a light-pen select, send text and
enter, or translate text into a PF key. This is very nice, but I wish
there were a "move cursor and Enter" function.

The "translate into a PF key" function most useful. Many of our VM
screens have PF key labels, but in several different formats (1=,
PF1=, F1, etc.) This seems to handle them all without prior
definitions, and is better than having to define "hot spots".


SCRIPTS (MACROS)

There is a very large (and slightly intimidating) script language.
Experienced programmers should have no trouble learning it, but
novices will be hard pressed to make good use of it. At first glance
it looks like "the Mother of all Script Languages", and it seems like
you can do anything and everything with it, although I'd have to try
something substantial before coming to that conclusion.

The script language provides much more than automation of sessions.
For example, window dialogs can be created and files can be
manipulated.

Scripts need to be compiled before execution. This is made very easy
with smooth dialogs, and it is easy to cycle through sequences of
edit/compile/execute.

There is a "Director" script designed to provide easy selection of
systems to connect to. I could not make it work, and they are going
to remove it from the package.

I was not able to create a logon script without considerable
assistance from the company. There was no simple example of a
logon script, and documentation on how to send 3270 keys (Enter, Tab,
Clear, etc.) was missing. However, the result was not complicated.

There are some odd things about the script language. For example, to
transfer a text file, you use "FILE RECEIVE BINARY" or "FILE SEND
BINARY", not "FILE SEND/RECEIVE TEXT", which is for using a "text
mode" transfer not applicable in this product.

The manual has some very long and sophisticated scripts, and would
benefit from some simple examples.


CUSTOM KEYPADS (FLASHPADS)

Each terminal session can have a "flashpad" assigned to it. The
default one has most of the 3270 keys on it. Buttons can be different
sizes and colors, and may be assigned to a macro (script) or a 3270
key.

I found the flashpad editor difficult to use, and on my display, there
is a problem with the button text, which is far too small to read.
Another problem is that the flashpad always comes up in the same
location; it has to be moved every time you start the session.

It is not clear how to get rid of the flashpad after it is attached
to a session. The session window control menu has a "Close Flash Pad"
item, but next time the session is opened the pad is displayed again.
It turns out you have to be sure the "Save Windows States" checkbox
"Terminal" is checked and then save the session settings after closing
the flash pad.

Because of these problems, the flashpads weren't tested much.


HOT SPOTS

Missing is the ability to define "hot spots", which are text strings
on the host screen that when clicked, cause some defined action. The
need for this feature is somewhat negated because the mouse can be
set to interpret screen text as a PF key, but I still miss it. For
example, on VM I'd define a hot spot so that clicking on "MORE..."
would send PF8 and "HOLDING" would be set to send CLEAR.


FILE TRANSFER

It uses the host command IND$FILE. There is no FTP server, although
if you have one, you can use your host's FTP client.

The file transfer dialogs are primative. On RECEIVE (host to PC),
you must enter the host file id and the PC file id (one will not be
derrived from another), but there is a directory window to select the
target PC directory.

On SEND (PC to host), you can double-click on the PC file to send.
Unfortunately, the host filename defaults to the last one used (for
SEND or RECEIVE) and you'll immediately write over it. A graphic
showing the transfer progress takes over the session screen, which is a
nice addition.

There is not a way to select multiple files for transfer, or to get a
list of host files to select from. It seems that the script language
is powerful enough that a better file transfer dialog could be devised
for a particular host.


DDE

Dynamic Data Exchange allows data to be exchanged between hosts and
Windows applications. This feature was not tested.


CONCLUSION

You may wish to look at DO3720, particularly if it supports your TCP/IP
stack and Rumba doesn't, or if you need a sophisticated script language
to automate host sessions. Some of the problems I had are due to the
1024x768 XGA display, and wouldn't appear on VGA's. There is a steep
learning curve, and you may have to call their customer support a few
times.

I expect that future versions will have many of the problems I found
fixed (I am told some are already fixed). The addition of better file
transfer dialogs and more intuitive customization/settings menus would
help a great deal.

Below is a long list of errors, problems, and suggestions accumulated
during the review. They are probably not very useful to most readers,
except to give an idea of the number and severity (or triviality) of my
problems and criticisms.

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ERRORS

A variety of errors and problems were reported to the publisher during
the evaluation. Some are related only to the test hardware, others are
trivial, but some are important. Answers to errors and problems, as
interpreted by me, are labeled "A:".

Font DCAFONT A size 8x8 results in total garbage. This seems to be
a problem on XGA systems only. Publisher agrees.

Screen painting errors: am getting VM text underscored when fields
are not underscored (no attribute has underscore style set) -- e.g.,
every ready message after a full-screen application.
A: Problem fixed in new version.

Menu: Help/Basic Skills -- results in "Help topic does not exist"
message.
A: Problem reported; a future release will have a fix.

Transfer/Send -- does not recognize IND$FILE error (e.g. msg INDFT035
CMS disk is Read-Only: File transfer cancelled). It keeps trying
until you stop it.
A: Problem under investigation by QA and is on the enhancement list.

Transfer/Receive -- status gauge doesn't work (does for SEND).
I get a couple of brief flashes of something, then a blank window.
A: Docs & code need changing; can't get host file size.

Menu: Window/Attachments/Flashpad: can't get rid of it (can minimize
it, but can't close it).

Pictures demo: shows no pictures.
A: The .bmp files were not in \windows directory.

Application window -- status bar -- status messages -- remains of
descenders (parts of characters like "g" or "p" that hang down)
remain after the message is cleared. Can be cleared by changing
vertical size of the window.
A: Could not duplicate; must be XGA problem.

FlashPad Editor -- text on buttons is too small to read.
A: An XGA problem.

Cannot use TN3270 and TN5250 in same Windows session -- they require
different TSR's loaded, and the TSR's are incompatible. If you load
the wrong one, you have to reboot your system. I don't know how
many people want to log onto a 370 system AND an AS/400, but I do,
and many of our students do too.
A: Problem is being worked on.

Does not negotiate extended highlighting with an AS/400.
This is important since you cannot run TN3270 and TN5250 at the same
time, and the AS/400 is pretty difficult to use without input fields
showing up with the underscore attribute.

Recoverable AE; UAE
From DIRECTOR script, clicked on Change. Get "Recoverable
Application Error. DO3270 failed in DO3270. Ignoring fault is
risky. (Am running Dr. Watson.) Pressed IGNORE, and got UAE.
Second try: did same thing. Windows hung.
A: Could not duplicate error. Never got any kind of AE. The
Director script will be deleted from future versions.

Menu: File:New:Settings -- closed the active session window without
asking. This is a problem, since when opening a script window it
is easy to accidentally click on the previous item, Settings.

Menu: File:Open:Settings -- does not execute the script defined for
settings file.

Send File dialog -- PC file id changes to "*.", so no files are found.
To reproduce: starting with any directory, and PC fileid "*.*",
select a file (click once). Now go to a different directory, and
the PC fileid becomes "*.", and no files for that directory will be
listed.

Incorrect Display Attributes
In a particular test application, the field had the underscore
attribute, but the underscores did not appear unless the field had
text. Same host program ran OK on other Telnet's.


INTERMITTENT or TEMPORARY PROBLEMS

These problems were not easily repeatable, and may be related to the
environment (Windows, network, hosts) or to weird things I was doing.

Hung Windows -- was trying to open connection with AS/400, which was
down.

Hung Windows -- on return from Norton Desktop Sleeper (may well be a
Sleeper problem, but I haven't had any before with this particular
module). Not easily repeatable, but frequent. Count: 9.

Did not disconnect from VM when DISCONNECT was chosen from Connect
menu.
A: Known problem; will take some time to fix.

Unrecoverable Application Error
Had just double-clicked on Tab key in the Keyboard Remapping window.
Dr. Watson was running; have log. Could not start DO3270 again; had
to leave Windows.

Unrecoverable Application Error
Had just clicked on CONNECT ALL, then DISCONNECT ALL (before all
were connected). Have Dr. Watson log.

Unrecoverable Application Error
During script execution, automatic logon. Script would have been
doing WAIT STRING. System hung, had to power off/on (Dr. Watson
did not intercept).

Recoverable AE -- DO3270 failed in D3270.
Opened setting file, running logon script, script would be at WAIT
SCREEN. Tried again, other errors; leave Windows & restart. Have
Dr. Watson logs this time.

Recoverable AE -- DO3270 failed in GDI
Was running Picture Demo. Have Dr. Watson log. Restart DO3270 and
get "Network Failure - tnMrecv() cc=0xFFFF errno=-1 socknum=5
sessock=5" followed by another RAE. Have to leave windows & restart
in order to run DO3270 any more. Repeatable.


SUGGESTIONS AND MINOR PROBLEMS

The publisher has noted all these problems and suggestions, and has
placed them all on their list of enhancements for future releases. Here
I've gotten pretty "nitpicky", but I did't have to look hard to find
these minor faults, and am sure I could find many more.

Installation, directories
I would prefer the default be that all user-created files go in
a single "custom" directory rather than the default setup with
so many different directories.

Session settings
I'd prefer one setting file per session, and clearer menu choices
for setting colors and keyboard mappings. Users may well want to
have a different script for each session, rather than one for all
sessions in the Workspace.

Settings
It would be nice to be able to query what setting file you are
running with (and what keyboard map, color map, etc.)

Save settings
Takes quite a long time; lots of disk I/O. Strange, it seems that
only two small files are updated.

Keyboard Remapping window
Would be clearer how to use this window if the lower keyboard had
a bit of text like "Use right-mouse button to drag terminal key".

Double-click on a key. Press "Default" causes the default value to
return (fine), but the only button now available is "CANCEL", which
does what you want. Would be clearer if "OK" and "CANCEL" were
active, and OK reset the key, while CANCEL did not change it.

Connect Menu
I would put CONNECT ALL and DISCONNECT ALL below CONNECT and
DISCONNECT. A few times I hit Connect All by accident, and had to
wait quite a while.

CONNECT ALL should not try to connect to the sessions that have not
been defined (e.g., "Host-4").

Shrink & Grow Buttons
The "make larger" button will wrap to the smallest font, but the
"make smaller" button won't wrap back to the largest font; really
annoying when you've gone too far.

Dialog boxes
Many (all?) text boxes that show directory paths truncate the
string on the right when it is too long to fit. Much better to
truncate on the left and even add "..." to the front when the whole
path doesn't fit.
A: An MS-Windows problem.

File transfer dialogs
Directory and file list boxes should be bigger . . . they show only
5 items.

Checking "Convert to EBCDIC" should also turn on "Delete CRLF".

With Send File dialog, please, please, clear the host file id when
a new PC File names is chosen or entered. I keep writing over the
last file uploaded.

Flash Pads
Not clear how to close it -- easier if the flash pad window had a
control menu.

Would be nice to have more than one open at a time.

Can't get rid of it once it is attached to a session.

Open Flash Pad
A blank (or blanks) for the fileid results in a message window:

Error

Number: 40983 Module: fpdopen.c
Line: 206

Invalid layout file or bad filename

It would be better to ignore a blank (don't enable the OK button).

Flashpad Editor
Would be nice if Help menu item invoked help.

Mouse Settings
Some additional options for click or double-click settings:
-- Move cursor and send PF key X (or any AID key)
-- Invoke script give text pointed to
-- Invoke script X, pass text as argument

Window:Attachments
The word "Attachments" isn't quite clear; these are settings to be
assigned to a particular session. How about "Settings"?

Entry Assist
Some of the 3270 "data entry assist" features would be very nice,
like word tab, word delete, and word wrap.

Script Language manual
1) In command reference syntax description, show which arguments are
optional with some syntax such as , e.g.: KEY is:

KEY modifier1 key1 definition WINDOW winhandle

may be clearer as:

KEY key1 definition

2) Sometimes a syntax is give with two words representing one
argument, which is very confusing. For example:

PARSE string string var1 keyword string var2

would be better as:

PARSE string string-var1 keyword string-var2

3) Much smaller and simpler examples need to be included.

4) String to send to represent 3270 keys are missing.

5) DIALOG PICTURE is documented as "Macintosh Only".

On-Line Help
Script reference -- remove references to other editions.
Help search -- keywords words like SEND and KEY should be indexed.

Menu:Help:About
Second text screen doesn't fit in window -- "OpenConnect Systems"
is cut off.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

The opinions expressed here are solely my own and do not necessarily
reflect those of the Pennsylvania State University.

Many thanks to Chris Dunn of OpenConnect Systems for providing the
review package and finding answers to my many questions.

Chris Sacksteder, Lead System Developer
Center for Academic Computing, Pennsylvania State University
105 Computer Building, University Park, PA 16802
Bitnet: cjs at psuvm Internet: [email protected]

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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David L Caldwell)
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:15:22 GMT
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In article <1992Mar25.195810.[email protected]> [email protected] (John Baima) writes:
>
>My recommendation: When you get that ugly yellow MS document
>telling you the bald faced lies, order your upgrade. When you
>get it and you then realize that MS has lied to you, demand that
>they fix it or provide a full refund, including shipping. When
>MS advises you that what you really need to do is upgrade your
>apps, ask them nicely to pay for them. If they refuse a full
>refund, write a letter to your Postmaster and tell them about
>the mail fraud you have experienced. Put your Federal tax
>dollars to work. Then, take your money and buy another copy of a
>real OS: OS/2 2.0.
>--

Calm down, take a cold shower or something... When ever you have an
upgrade like this there will ALWAYS be some applications that don't work,
primarily because of SLOPPY PROGRAMMING on their part. Microsoft can't be
held responsible because these vendors cut programming corners that they
should'nt have. Those of us who are experienced
in the Macintosh market place know that this is normal, whenever Apple
releases a new version of their OS a certain percentage of current programs
will break to one extent or another. I have got the impression that most
of the programs "run" under 3.1, but have problems with TT Fonts and other
specific 3.1 features. This is nothing to panic over. Most vendors will
have free/cheap upgrades to fix the problems.

--Dave



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Dave Caldwell
Computer & Network Services
University of Delaware
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 14:22:05 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
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> [email protected] (Kevin Coleman) says:
>>Could someone perhaps fill me in on what the "Windows Resource Kit" is?

[email protected] (Michael Levine) writes:
> According to Microsoft, it is "A VALUABLE COLLECTION OF TOOLS AND TIPS.." for
> Windows users containing technical notes on Windows installation, configuri-
> zation, and optimization. It also includes diagnostic tools, applications,
> and utilities such as Microsoft's Productivity Pack, Shareware programs
> ("Fish" and "Fireplace", and even an hDC utility.

I purchased the 3.0 Resource Kit. Sure, you the Productivity Pack (good for
novices etc.) and some utilities (most are bettered by those at cica), but
what you do get is one h*ll of an impressive Windows tuning guide. This is
a 8.5x11, 230-page looseleaf manual that gives a lot of details on installing,
configuring and troubleshooting Windows. There are lots of details on high
memory management, networks, standard vs. enhanced mode, running DOS apps,
and so on.

We have used this kit a number of times to help our customers when they've
had trouble running Windows. A copy of the resource kit and the Windows FAQ
(plug!) should be on your bookshelf, too, if you are responsible for any
significant number of PCs running Windows well.

[ \tom haapanen "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ [email protected] "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
Date: 26 Mar 92 14:54:01 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Article-I.D.: wes.1992Mar26.145401.7121
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> [email protected] (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>> Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microsoft,
>> won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure you're
>> running MS-DOS 5.0.

[email protected] (Robert L. Howard) writes:
> Actually, PC Week even had some problems with Excel 3.0, so it
> looks like you need to upgrade no matter who made the application.

For the record, I have used both Excel 3.0 and Word for Windows 1.1 quite
extensively with Windows 3.1, with no apparent problems. But of course if
you'd rather believe PC Week than me... 🙂

[ \tom haapanen "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
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Subject: installation help please?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 14:54:12 GMT
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Organization: Hampshire College
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I am looking for help with a problem I have encountered
while installing Word for Windows 2.0. Everytime I have run an
installation it has quit with a disk full error message. Since there
is plenty of space left on my disk, and the installer verifies this
fact before it starts, this is obviously not the problem. I have
played around with the decomp.exe program outside of Windows and found that
it was incapable of decompressing large files (the winword.ex$ file on disk
3 for example). The error decomp returns is something along the lines
of expanded file length mismatch, since the expanded file is 0 bytes.
So, my big question is, why is it not decompressing? Is this a common
problem? Is it associated with the amoung of memory available under
Windows? BTW - I should mention that I've tried full, custom, and minimal
installations on at lest 4 different machines with different environments
and none were successful. Also, just before error occurs, setup does a
long series (several minutes) of disk reads which I'm guessing are some sort
or re-try.
Anyway, with Word for Win 1.1 on the Win 3.1 casualty list, getting W4W 2.0
installed has become suddenly more important...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Please reply to [email protected]

Thanks,

Tim Ewald


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Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra - DOS Window Wierdness
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jeff Brown)
Date: 26 Mar 1992 10:55 EST
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Installed the Graphics Ultra in my 386. Now, in a DOS window,
there is a 2 or 3 second delay between pressing a key and the
character appearing on the screen. Works fine when it's full-screen.
This happens regardless of screen mode, from VGA to 1024x768.
It didn't do this before the new board. All the board-specific
drivers seem to be installed and loaded correctly. Ideas??? Thanks.

Jeff Brown (216) 433-3888
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dennis Ellis)
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:08:52 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Cray Research Inc
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>In article , [email protected] (Joe Morris) writes...
>>[Discussion of a list of programs which supposedly have problems under
>> Windows 3.1, with various statements of agreement or disputation...just
>> like most usenet threads 😉 .]
>>
>Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microsoft,
>won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure you're
>running MS-DOS 5.0.
>
>Is there a pattern here?

Better be careful here! I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago and
had neglected to put on my flame-retardent suit. Boy was that a mistake!! 🙂

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Dennis Ellis)
Date: 26 Mar 92 09:45:16 CST
References: <1992Mar25[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Cray Research Inc
Keywords: Cooperative Spirit NOT!
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In article <1992Mar26.0423[email protected]> [email protected] (Brian CAPSON) writes:
>In article <1992Mar25.2[email protected]> [email protected] (R. Kelley Cook) writes:
>>In article , [email protected] (Michael Polen) writes:
>>|> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard Armstrong) writes:
>>
>You better get your facts straight first. Microsoft didn't charge anyone
>a cent to be a part of their Beta tests, in fact they gave everyone a
>free Compuserve subscription to allow better communication. No company
>is obliged to reveal privy information to their competitors, and that is
>what DRI is, their competitors. DRI has made it no secret that they are
>planning to try to clone windows, so why should Microsoft give them a
>head start by allowing them to use pre-release software? If DRI had done
>a decent job of providing MSDOS compatability in the first place, which
>is THEIR responsibility, then the point would be moot.
>
Whether or not it cost money to be a beta tester is not relevant to the
discussion at hand.

Really? Could you please post the info regarding DRI's plans to clone
windows? I haven't seen this I guess. I must have missed it.

Oh? Then why is Borland selling C++ with Help Compiler and API compatibility
built in if MS is not obligated to provide competitors with privy information?
Is MS not a competitor in the language area? Same question applies for
providing information to Lotus, Wordperfect, etc? Why should MS provide them
with Windows interfaces before it is officially released if they are competing
with these other companies (that would mean the other companies couldn't get
started on their competing products until after release - giving MS a huge
time advantage over them. Gee, I wonder why MS didn't think of this one too?)


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Subject: Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bill Mammel)
Date: 26 Mar 92 16:32:36 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Keywords: windows 3.1
Summary: Is it compatable?
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This week's PC Week listed the following programs as "casualties" to
the Windows 3.1 upgrade.
Ace Software Ace File hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
Aldus FreeHand 3.0 Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
Aldus Persuasion Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
Borland C 3.0 Winsight Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
Campbell Services On Time NBI Legacy

Central Point PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
Claris Hollywood PFS:WindowsWorks
Coda Finale PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
Computer Support Arts & L Harvard Graphics for Windows
C S Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
First Byte Monologue WordStar for Windows

This list scares me. What do they mean by "casualties"? Will these
programs work at all??

Microsoft promised 100% compatibility and I don't look forward to having
to buy upgrades for my windows programs. The $49 upgrade could be
getting VERY expensive.

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Subject: Windows 3 grahhics cards
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Keith Smith)
Date: 26 Mar 92 14:23:31 GMT
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I have been looking for a sensible priced high speed grahics card for use
with Windows.
From the specs and reviews the STP WIND/X card look good.
Does anyone have any comments on it?
What performance improvement can be expected on a system compared with
say - a Trident or an ET4000 chipset board at 1024*768 ?
Is there a noticable difference when the PC has a trident chipset
integrated on the motherboard - presumably with 32 bit data paths.?
Are there any other cards worth looking at?

Keith Smith

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Subject: Re: The Windows 3.1 Casualty List
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Nabeel Al-Shamma)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:13:22 GMT
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Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] () writes:
>This is from the March 23rd issue of PC WEEK.
>It includes a list of software that "... may
>experience application errors, problems resizing
>windows and printing files. User will either
>have to go to the application vendors to obtain
>upgrades or have to change system configuration
>options ...."
>
>The list apparently was taken directly from the

>list:
>
>Ace Software AceFile
>Adobe Illustrator
[list of other apps deleted]
>
>
>Summary:
>
>Included in the list are:
>2 of the most popular Windows Word Processors
> (Ami Pro and WordPerfect for Windows)
>3 of the most popular drawing/illustration packages
> (Adobe Illustrator, Aldus Freehand, Arts & Letters)
>The most popular shell/utilites
> (NDW, PC Tools)
>3 popular Windows presentation packages
> (Hollywood, Powerpoint, Harward Graphics for Windows)
>--
>--------------------------
>Chuck Lau
>Silma Inc
>1601 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd

I though I should point out that the article in PC Week notes that
it is Adobe Illustrator 1.1 that is not compatible with Win 3.1.
The new Adobe Illustrator 4.0 WILL be compatible.

Nabeel
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (OLIVE D H)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:17:25 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Keywords: windows 3.1
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In article <1992Mar26.163236.[email protected]> [email protected] (Bill Mammel) writes:
>This week's PC Week listed the following programs as "casualties" to
>the Windows 3.1 upgrade.
>Ace Software Ace File hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
>Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
>Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
>Aldus FreeHand 3.0 Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
>Aldus Persuasion Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
>Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
>Borland C 3.0 Winsight Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
>Campbell Services On Time NBI Legacy
>Central Point PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
>Claris Hollywood PFS:WindowsWorks
>Coda Finale PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
>Computer Support Arts & L Harvard Graphics for Windows
>C S Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
>First Byte Monologue WordStar for Windows
>

It is not at all obvious what they mean by casualties. I am running
Windows 3.1 and have not had any trouble running Norton Desktop 1.0 or
WordPerfect for Windows or PC tools for Windows. In fact Word Perfect for
windows crashed everyonce in a while with 3.0 but has not crashed at all
with 3.1. Also the print spooler is MUCH faster when used with WP for windows.

'Casualties'...not.




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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bert Moshier)
Date: 26 Mar 92 10:24:53 CST
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert F. Solomon) writes:
>
>If people
>can get their job done with what ever they are using, I think that is all
>that is necessary.
>
>If you don't like what Windows 3.1 offers, don't buy it.
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Robert:

At one time most people used punch cards or programmed by wiring the computer.
They got their job done but more was necessary.

What is popular today is not always the best. I remember walking into
record stores in 1984 - 1986 looking for and not find Compact Discs. The
salespeople looked at me than as the Egghead salespeople look at me when asking
for OS/2 or its applications today. BTW, those same stores only carry CDs
and tapes today.

Bert Moshier

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Ashok Aiyar)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:35:18 GMT
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In article <1992Mar26.163236.[email protected]> [email protected] (Bill Mammel) writes:

>This week's PC Week listed the following programs as "casualties" to
>the Windows 3.1 upgrade.

>Ace Software Ace File hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
>Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
>Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
>Aldus FreeHand 3.0 Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
>Aldus Persuasion Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
>Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
>Borland C 3.0 Winsight Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
>Campbell Services On Time NBI Legacy
>Central Point PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
>Claris Hollywood PFS:WindowsWorks
>Coda Finale PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
>Computer Support Arts & L Harvard Graphics for Windows
>C S Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
>First Byte Monologue WordStar for Windows

>This list scares me. What do they mean by "casualties"? Will these
>programs work at all??

>Microsoft promised 100% compatibility and I don't look forward to having
>to buy upgrades for my windows programs. The $49 upgrade could be
>getting VERY expensive.

I have used Norton's Desktop for Windows with the second beta-build
(I think it was 3.1.043e?) and with the final beta build (3.1.061d)
with no problem. With the second beta-build, I did have problems
with Microsoft Powerpoint (any attempt to use the Genigraphics driver
would cause a crash), but again this has not happened with the Final
beta release. W4W 1.1 worked fine with both the second and final
beta-builds.

Ashok
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Department of Biochemistry
CWRU School of Medicine
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Subject: Re: The Windows 3.1 Casualty List
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Pierluigi Miraglia)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:43:24 GMT
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Could any tester of Win3.1 report their opinions/impressions/experiences
about compatibility of the following with Win3.1:
Word fW 1.1
Wordperf. fW ?

It would be useful to know about the direct experience of users. Please don't
refer
to the PcWeek tests, we already know.
Thank you very much.
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pierluigi Miraglia [email protected]
Dept. of Philosophy, The Ohio State University
A word is worth a thousand pictures - CSLI anonymous

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Subject: MicroGrafx Draw
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Murphy)
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am intresested in some info about Micrografx Draw...Is anybody out their
currently using it? Please e-mail!


--
John [email protected]
UCAR/COMET(303) 497-8494
PO Box 3000
Boulder CO 80307-3000

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
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Date: 26 Mar 92 17:29:42 GMT
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[email protected] (Brian CAPSON) writes:

> If DRI had done
>a decent job of providing MSDOS compatability in the first place, which
>is THEIR responsibility, then the point would be moot.

I don't think the issue is whether or not DR-DOS is a "good"
clone of MS-DOS. I don't think there are any DOS-level
problems. The problem lies in that once again MS has changed the
memory management scheme for Windows. Doesn't everyone remember
the problems with QEMM after 3.0 came out? You had to wait for
a fix from Quaterdeck. This time around, MS made the decision
to get Quarterdeck and others in the beta program so that they
could get upgrades to customers even before Windows 3.1 shipped
(thus avoiding a repeat of the memory manager fiasco.) The
problem here is that DR can't get a copy of Windows 3.1 *or*
the new memory management spec so they can change their EMM386.SYS.

Why does Microsoft insist on changing fundamentals pieces of
Windows everytime out?

Doesn't sound very open to me...

Robert
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Subject: Re: Using Windows .BMP files with OS/2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish
Date: Thursday, 26 Mar 1992 12:38:34 EST
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Penn State ACA (American Churl Association)
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Dan Montroy) says:
>
>Does anyone know how to do this? I have some files I got for my Windows
>system, but when I tried to use them on an OS/2 machine, the picture didn't
>change. Maybe this is a secret plot by Microsoft to bomb OS/2, but maybe not.
>Can someone help?

Do you want to use the Windows bitmaps as OS/2 backgrounds? My officemate
at IBM this summer was writing the code to display Windows bitmaps from
OS/2 as OS/2 wallpaper. It should work in the latest OS/2 2.0 beta versions.
---
Michael E. Dahmus -- [email protected] or [email protected] -- OS/2 rules!
UNIX: The perfect operating system for people who don't have to pay for
their computers.

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Subject: What to use for IBM Color Jetprinter
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Chris Peck)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:38:56 GMT
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I have an IBM Color Jetprinter (3852-Model 2) that I would
like to be able to print in color to. Anyone know which
printer driver I should use under Windows? (I don't have
a manual for the printer)..
-thanks
chris

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Subject: Re: WORDPERFECT HEADER PROBLEM! HELP! HELP!
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From: [email protected] (Charles H. Chapman)
Date: 26 Mar 92 18:09:03 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Dan Stephenson) writes:

>I have WordPerfect for Windows.

>I have a question and I'd LOE for any of you folks to clue me in,...

>You see,... I wanty to have headers on all the pages of my document,..
>EXCEPT the first page. There, I wanna SUPRESS the header,..but watch
>out! You can't!! Surprise!

Yes you can. The SUPRESS code has to be be before any printable characters
(including spaces) on the page that is to be SUPRESSED. Use REVEAL CODES
to make sure the SUPRESS code occurs before any printable characters. I
just tried it and it works great -- even on the first page.

Chuck

Charles H. Chapman (GTRI/MATD) (404) 528-7588
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 17:06:55 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David L Caldwell) writes:
>Calm down, take a cold shower or something... When ever you have an
>upgrade like this there will ALWAYS be some applications that don't work,
>primarily because of SLOPPY PROGRAMMING on their part. Microsoft can't be
>held responsible because these vendors cut programming corners that they
>should'nt have. Those of us who are experienced
>in the Macintosh market place know that this is normal, whenever Apple
>releases a new version of their OS a certain percentage of current programs
>will break to one extent or another. I have got the impression that most
>of the programs "run" under 3.1, but have problems with TT Fonts and other
>specific 3.1 features. This is nothing to panic over. Most vendors will
>have free/cheap upgrades to fix the problems.

W4W 2.0 is a $129 upgrade from W4W 1.1.

"Introducing Windows 3.1," upgrade notice, p. 6, offers the following:

"TrueType fonts will work with all applications for Windows and with
the broad range of displays and printers supported by the Windows
operating system. Microsoft has enhanced the Windows GDI (graphics
device interface) imaging model to work with TrueType so that
applications for Windows will use TrueType fonts just as they now use
Windows bitmap fonts. No changes or upgrades are required. TrueType
technology will continue to evolve with Windows, so TrueType will
always work right out of the box. And because TrueType is fully
integrated with Windows version 3.1 and with Apple Macintosh System
7.0, it will be easier to share documents between the two platforms."

Is this unequivocal claim valid?

About the DR-DOS debate. DR-DOS is now owned by Novell. Microsoft
was willing to work with Novell (and IBM, for that matter) on ensuring
that Windows 3.1 was compatible with their network operating systems
(NetWare and OS/2 LAN Server, respectively), even though Microsoft
competes in those operating system markets with OS/2 LAN Manager. Yet
they were not willing to help ensure compatibility with DR-DOS, and
the Digital Research subsidiary of Novell will apparently have to
start fixing their software when they get their copy of Windows 3.1 on
April 6.

I fail to see the distinction Microsoft is trying to draw with respect
to DR-DOS.

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Michael Polen)
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In article , [email protected] (Robert L. Howard) writes:
|>
|> Why does Microsoft insist on changing fundamentals pieces of
|> Windows everytime out?
|>
|> Doesn't sound very open to me...
|>
Performance? Thank you Microsoft.

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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bert Moshier)
Date: 26 Mar 92 11:00:23 CST
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David L Caldwell) writes:
>In article <1992Mar25.195810.[email protected]> [email protected] (John Baima) writes:
>>
>>My recommendation: When you get that ugly yellow MS document
>>telling you the bald faced lies, order your upgrade. When you
>>get it and you then realize that MS has lied to you, demand that
>>they fix it or provide a full refund, including shipping. When
>>MS advises you that what you really need to do is upgrade your
>>apps, ask them nicely to pay for them. If they refuse a full
>>refund, write a letter to your Postmaster and tell them about
>>the mail fraud you have experienced. Put your Federal tax
>>dollars to work. Then, take your money and buy another copy of a
>>real OS: OS/2 2.0.
>>--
>
>Calm down, take a cold shower or something... When ever you have an
>upgrade like this there will ALWAYS be some applications that don't work,
>primarily because of SLOPPY PROGRAMMING on their part. Microsoft can't be
>held responsible because these vendors cut programming corners that they
>should'nt have. Those of us who are experienced
>in the Macintosh market place know that this is normal, whenever Apple
>releases a new version of their OS a certain percentage of current programs
>will break to one extent or another. I have got the impression that most
>of the programs "run" under 3.1, but have problems with TT Fonts and other
>specific 3.1 features. This is nothing to panic over. Most vendors will
>have free/cheap upgrades to fix the problems.
>
>--Dave
>
>-------------------------------
>Dave Caldwell
>Computer & Network Services
>University of Delaware
>[email protected]

Dave:

I agree he needs to calm down.

I hope people have as open a mind about OS/2 2.0 as you do for the Windows
3.1 upgrade. OS/2 should not anymore responsible for sloppy programming than
Windows 3.1 is responsible.

Bert Moshier

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (JAMES DORCEY)
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In article , [email protected] (Robert L. Howard)
writes...

>I don't think the issue is whether or not DR-DOS is a "good"
>clone of MS-DOS. I don't think there are any DOS-level
>problems. The problem lies in that once again MS has changed the
>memory management scheme for Windows. Doesn't everyone remember
>the problems with QEMM after 3.0 came out? You had to wait for
>a fix from Quaterdeck. This time around, MS made the decision
>to get Quarterdeck and others in the beta program so that they
>could get upgrades to customers even before Windows 3.1 shipped
>(thus avoiding a repeat of the memory manager fiasco.) The
>problem here is that DR can't get a copy of Windows 3.1 *or*
>the new memory management spec so they can change their EMM386.SYS.

This raises two interesting questions.

1.Is the current version of QEMM-386 compatible with
Windows 3.1?

2.Will Windows 3.1 run using DR-DOS 6.0 and QEMM386 in place
of EMM386.SYS?

JD

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bill Endter RCS)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 18:04:26 GMT
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Did Microsoft specify that you must be running MS-DOS V5 to be a beta tester for Windows 3.1? It seems that DR should have been able to find someone who could be a beta tester who was using DRDOS. Or they might have been able to start a small company who could qualify as a beta site.
I would not be surprised if DR has a version of DRDOS ready to go which supports MS windows 3.1, but they are waiting for the release of Windows before they let anyone know.


Bill

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Subject: Can't log into cica under anonymous - my problem?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Peter Burke, MIC, 608-263-7744)
Date: 26 MAR 92 12:25:17
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Since yesterday afternoon I've been unable to ftp to
cica.cica.indiana.edu. I can easily do it at other sites, so what's
going on?

Peter


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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Nico de Vries.)
Date: 26 Mar 92 17:44:00 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (David L Caldwell) writes:

>In article <1992Mar25.195810.[email protected]> [email protected] (John Baima) writes:

>...
>primarily because of SLOPPY PROGRAMMING on their part. Microsoft can't be
>held responsible because these vendors cut programming corners that they
>should'nt have. Those of us who are experienced
>...
>--Dave
>...
So what you are actually saying is that TSR's (sidekick and followers), direct
video access (any program currently on the market), disk tools (Norton Disk
Doctor, PCTOOLS), disk caching etc, should never have happended.

Unfortunately often the only way to make better programs than the rest bypassing
defined interfaces is often needed. Often just to bypass weak parts of the OS.
Microsoft does this too using their own internal material. They even have a head
start in this respect to all their compettitors. An unfair headstart in my
opinion.


Nico de Vries ([email protected] NEW ADRESS!)

#include - O Don't
Complaints about my spelling to DEV/NUL please. | worry,
This is a private (ACCU) acount and I don't speak for BITECH. \_/ be happy!

"Sometimes I make a joke. Sorry for that, I didn't mean to."

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Subject: standard mode with emm386 & dos 5.0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (alex t stagg x4718)
Date: 26 Mar 92 17:57:21 GMT
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I have a feeling this ground has been covered already and I'm
a late arrival..

I can't get windows 3.0 to run if I have emm386.exe loaded
in my config.sys so that my mouse and network drivers get
loaded into upper memory (between 640K and 1M). I get:

"Cannot run Windows in standard mode:

check to ensure that you are not running other protected-mode
software, or run in real mode."

If I comment out the emm386.exe ("rem") in config.sys,
then all my drivers get loaded into conventional memory
and windows starts up in standard mode OK.

How do I get it to work the way I want (with drivers in upper
memory)? This is a 386 with only 2MB total memory. Increasing
memory is not an option. I don't card about enhanced mode
right now (although it *will* start up in enhanced mode if I
force it to with /3).

Alex.

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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
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From: [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn)
Date: 26 Mar 92 19:29:03 GMT
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Since I'm getting sick and tired of reading uninformed idiots banter
about the list of apps that supposidly won't work with Windows 3.1
I thought I would select one of these apps from the Windows 3.1 apps.hlp
file and show just how serious the problems with these are.

For Powerpoint:

Microsoft PowerPoint version 2.0e

Windows version 3.1 uses more descriptive printer-model names for printer
drivers instead of the generic names used in previous versions of Windows.
Because of this, PowerPoint will warn you that the printer has changed.
To use TrueType fonts with PowerPoint, you must select something other
than the default or Genegraphics printer drivers. For information about
obtaining an updated version of PowerPoint, contact your software vendor
or call Microsoft Sales and Service at 1-800-426-9400. Outside the United
States, contact your local software vendor or Microsoft subsidiary.

As you can see, this is not exactly a fatal problem and it is typical
of the problems with other apps on the list.

So for all you cry baby whiners - chill out. Most of the problems
with the apps on this list are the result of the Vendors not following
standard Windows programming practices. Microsoft has managed to
provide workarounds for most of these but there are a few that it just
couldn't do this for and these are the few that are on this list.


--
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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
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|> |> I am really quite pissed off about this!
|> |>
|> At DRI? They are the ones that screwed up.
|>
|> |> p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
|> |> let me know. But for now, I'm keeping my money in
|> |> my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until
|> |> this is resolved!

To all you DRI crybabies. If you hate Microsoft so much, why don't
you buy GEM instead of Windows? Perhaps a good question to ask is
whether GEM works with DOS 5.0. I wonder if DRI gave Microsoft the
source code to GEM so that MS could test whether it would work on
DOS 5.0. ;-} I think not.

From what I hear, most people who bought DR DOS 6.0 did so because it
had features that MS DOS doesn't have. It doesn't take too much
intelligence to figue out that some of these additional features may
interfere with the standard dos and as such are the cause of the
incompatibility with Windows.

As I've posted before, Windows 3.1 works perfectly on DOS 3.3 and
DOS 4.1 which were out before Windows 3.0 and DR DOS 5.0 and DR DOS
6.0. Since DRI claims that their DOS is compatible with the earlier
versions of MSDOS, the ball is in their court for them to explain
why their products are not as compatible as they advertised them to be.

--
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Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John H. Kim)
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[email protected] (Robert F. Solomon) writes:
>>
>>.. . Microsoft's Word for Windows and Excel 3.0 and Aldus Corp's
>>PageMaker 4.0 all produced output errors on test documents" (PC
>>Week, March 23, page 8).

>The above statements refer to the 3/23 issue of PC Week. When were the
>tests run? Obviously, they were run before 3/23. So which version of
>Windows was used. Was it a beta or the release version.

Why would PC Week publish test results of a beta product when the
final release was so near? The best they could hope for would be
a temporary increase in prestige, followed by a permanent drop as
their mistake become common knowledge. I don't see the above
argument as having enough grounds to dismiss PC Week's list.

> I called tech support for one of the apps I use regularly since it was
>on the list. (No, it wasn't an MS app). They said that all their tests
>with the RELEASE version showed no problems.

And if every developer's tests encompassed everything possible,
there would never be any buggy software released. PC Week may
have gotten a bug report from their own tests, someone at Microsoft,
someone at Federal Express, they may even have been duped. Maybe
somebody should call them up and ask for more details?

>I use windows and I like it. I have used others (UNIX and mainframe stuff),
>but they are not useful FOR THE TASKS I NEED TO DO TO DO MY JOB. If people
>can get their job done with what ever they are using, I think that is all
>that is necessary.

Gee, I can still write letters with a typewriter. In fact, a pen
and paper do the job rather well. Of course, a word processor is
***much more efficient***, which is what all this "my OS is better
than your OS" is about.

>If you don't like what Windows 3.1 offers, don't buy it.

Agreed. And before anybody starts thinking I'm a "OS/2 rules, kill
Windows" type, I still recommend Windows (and Macs and NeXTs and
Amigas and...) whenever I judge it to be appropriate.
--
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[email protected] | think of something very clever
uunet!jarthur!jokim | to use as a disclaimer)

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Subject: Re: Can't log into cica under anonymous - my problem?
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In <[email protected]> [email protected]
(Peter Burke, MIC, 608-263-7744) writes:

>Since yesterday afternoon I've been unable to ftp to
>cica.cica.indiana.edu. I can easily do it at other sites, so what's
>going on?


CICA was down for a couple hours today (we got our RAM upgrade!) and
has, until just today, severely limited the number of simultaneous ftp
connections. When maxusers() is reached (5 users), connections
are denied, and, unfortunately, without explanation. (You probably
just see a "connection refused" or similar message.)

While we work at fixing the wuarchive ftpd server to display a message
when maxusers() has been reached, please be patient and keep trying.
(You may want to get the automated ftp (aftp) or batchftp programs to
automatically get the files you want.)

(BTW, CICA may be out of commission for brief periods this afternoon
(Thu Mar 26) while we shove in another 8Mb...)

Thanks for your patience and support!

--
michael regoli
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Subject: Re: Can't log into cica under anonymous - my problem?
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p[email protected] (Peter Burke, MIC, 608-263-7744) writes:

>Since yesterday afternoon I've been unable to ftp to
>cica.cica.indiana.edu. I can easily do it at other sites, so what's
>going on?

>Peter

cica is closed between the hours of 8am and 5pm EST. Could that have been
the problem?
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Subject: sim city
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if my memory serves me, isn't there a windows
version of sim city as well as the standard pc version?
has anyone compared the two of them, is there a
prohibitively high reduction in speed? i have
a 386/25 (if it matters). most importantly,
is there a drastic difference in graphics,
and if so, which one is better?

finally, if i had a mac sim city that i wanted to
run on the sim city i am eventually going to buy
for my ibm, would it work? using the mac, i
am fairly certain i can place the mac file on a
dos disk, i am just wondering - would it work?

thanx, in advance. i like e-mail.

cheers,
barabbas

p.s. apologize for cross-posting if it is thought inappropiate.

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Subject: Re: Can't log into cica under anonymous - my problem?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Peter Burke, MIC, 608-263-7744) says:

>Since yesterday afternoon I've been unable to ftp to
>cica.cica.indiana.edu. I can easily do it at other sites, so what's
>going on?

>Peter

Same problem here. Anyone care to explain ?

-Azmi

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
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From: [email protected] (Robert L. Howard)
Date: 26 Mar 92 20:09:00 GMT
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[email protected] (JAMES DORCEY) writes:

>In article , [email protected] (Robert L. Howard)
>writes...

>>I don't think the issue is whether or not DR-DOS is a "good"
>>clone of MS-DOS. I don't think there are any DOS-level
>>problems. The problem lies in that once again MS has changed the
>>memory management scheme for Windows. Doesn't everyone remember
>>the problems with QEMM after 3.0 came out? You had to wait for
>>a fix from Quaterdeck. This time around, MS made the decision
>>to get Quarterdeck and others in the beta program so that they
>>could get upgrades to customers even before Windows 3.1 shipped
>>(thus avoiding a repeat of the memory manager fiasco.) The
>>problem here is that DR can't get a copy of Windows 3.1 *or*
>>the new memory management spec so they can change their EMM386.SYS.

>This raises two interesting questions.

>1.Is the current version of QEMM-386 compatible with
>Windows 3.1?

Don't know for sure, but I think I remember reading that a version
newer than QEMM 5.12 is required. Isn't 6.0 out? That may be the
version which will work with Win 3.1...


>2.Will Windows 3.1 run using DR-DOS 6.0 and QEMM386 in place
>of EMM386.SYS?

If the above is true the it is quite possible that DR-DOS will
work fine...

Robert

PS Some people seem to forget that even Microsoft can't get
all versions and DOS and Windows to work. (Remember the
files that are included in the DOS 5.0 upgrade that you
have to install into the root directory?) See, Microsoft
can use DOS to fix Windows and vice-versa, they own them
both.

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| rhoward@matd.gatech.edu | MATD Laboratory |
| (404) 528-7165 | Atlanta, Georgia 30332 |
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Subject: Re: TT font pack list.
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From: [email protected] (Jeff Altman)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 20:01:13 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Paul Magid) writes:
>In article [email protected] (Michael Polen) writes:
>>Are there any programs, preferable share/public domain, that will convert
>>the large type-1 public domain set to TrueType?
>
>Alltype by Atech software. (The Publisher's Powerpak folks) This was the
>smartest $60 I ever spent. (Well almost) It converts between Atech Fastfonts
>Posrtscript 1, Postscript 3, Intellifont, Nimbus Q, Trutype, and Spinaker.
>What it is more it will convert a font in any direction. (ie: TT ->
>postscript or postscript -> TT) In the process you get to change file names
>and Font Names. It also auto-installs the fonts in windows or whatever you are
>using. You can also create narrow, hollow and expanded fonts from a normal
>outline. I predict this will be a big seller after Win3.1 is released.
>Needless to say I am in the process of ditching ATM 2.0 [it was too buggy].
>Oh, I believe they are coming out with a windows version in 2 weeks, so it
>may be a good idea to wait that long.


How did you get AllType to convert your fonts from Type 1 to TrueType?
When I use it it converts each variation (Normal, Bold, Italic, BoldItalic)
of a Font Family into a new Font Family of Normal variation.

So

Optima Normal => Optima Normal
Optima Bold=>Optima-Bold Normal
Optima Italic=>Optima-Italic Normal
Optima Bold-Italic =>Optima-Bold-Italic Normal

How did you get around this?


>
>Paul
>
>P.S. Yes, I am JUST a very satisfied customer.


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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
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From: [email protected] (Tom Tanida)
Date: 26 Mar 92 17:49:49 GMT
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In article <1992Mar25.[email protected]>, john@utafll (John Baima) writes:
>The reality, of course, is that Windows 3.1 is incompatible with
>dozens of applications, including Microsoft applications.
>
>The reality is also that Microsoft's marketing reflects cold
>blooded, intentional deceit. If MS had any integrity, they would
>state the truth: "The ability to run all 3.0 apps was our goal.
>We placed a lot of trust in our programming staff to accomplish
>this. However, since Chairman Bill originally promised that we
>would deliver Windows 3.1 in December *1990*, and since OS/2 2.0
>is breathing down our necks and since the aforementioned
>chairman would line us all up and shoot us if we delayed it yet
>again, we decided to ship it on April 6th, although this means
>that we have failed to accomplish *critical* design goals. While
>it is in some respects a failure, we think that you all should
>upgrade to 3.1 and upgrade all your apps and that you will
>really be much happier if you do."

I'd say that 99% of the applications that fail under Win 3.1 are the fault
of the application designers for not following the "rules" (i.e.
programming within the specifications outlined in the publications,
of which most of the reliable ones are put out by MS- kind of a
racket, but still, if you want the true info, you go to the source).

>My recommendation: When you get that ugly yellow MS document
>telling you the bald faced lies, order your upgrade. When you
>get it and you then realize that MS has lied to you, demand that
>they fix it or provide a full refund, including shipping. When
>MS advises you that what you really need to do is upgrade your
>apps, ask them nicely to pay for them. If they refuse a full
>refund, write a letter to your Postmaster and tell them about
>the mail fraud you have experienced. Put your Federal tax
>dollars to work. Then, take your money and buy another copy of a
>real OS: OS/2 2.0.

If anybody believes that any software upgrade for any OS is 100%
compatible with prior versions of software, then I'll be surprised
if they even manage to install Windows on their computer to begin
with. Take Apple's System 7 (note how Apple doesn't make claims,
but pretty much abandons the little support they had for System 6.)
Take X-Windows v11R5, which claims to be compatible with R4,
but isn't (I have stuff that won't even compile, let alone run).
Compared to these, the Win 3.1 differences are extremely minor.
I do think MS should have said that 99.9% of Win 3.0 apps will be
compatible, rather than implying 100%, but there are very few apps
that I know of that run too poorly to use under 3.1.

Any serious Win 3.0 user will find Win 3.1 more stable, more reliable,
and a much better performer. OS/2 is a technically superior operating
system, but so is UNIX, and I don't run that on my Intel machine (I
do run it on my SPARC, however, and I wouldn't even want to run MS Win
on this machine). Besides, if IBM offers OS/2 at a free competitive
upgrade as has been rumored for Win users, why buy it? Just order
your copy of Win 3.1, and get OS/2 for free. Partition your hd, and
get the best of both worlds- I don't see the reason for animosity
towards any computing environment (that includes UNIX, Windows, OS/2, Macs,
Amigas, Ataris, whatever).

-Tom
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: The Windows 3.1 Casualty List
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Tom Tanida)
Date: 26 Mar 92 17:20:24 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, yukit@silma (Chuck) writes:
>This is from the March 23rd issue of PC WEEK.
>It includes a list of software that "... may
>experience application errors, problems resizing
>windows and printing files. User will either
>have to go to the application vendors to obtain
>upgrades or have to change system configuration
>options ...."

Most of the problems are relatively minor. For example, you might
experience some display problems with Ami Pro 2.0. This is being
fixed by Lotus (because it's their bug). The Borland 3.0 Winsight
is being fixed by Borland in an incremental release to their
compiler (because it's their bug). In addition, there is already
a partial upgrade on CompuServe. Norton Desktop 1.0 works fine,
with a minor exception when you open a control menu on an item on
the desktop, then select an item, the menu closes rahter than
performing the function. Try again, and then it works. This
is being fixed in NDW 2.0 (since it's Symantec's bug).

During the beta test, MS worked with virtually every company whose
software was in question upon a bug report. Win 3.1 performance
could have been increased if many companies writing their
apps had followed most of "the rules", but a
a major MS design goal with 3.1 was to retain compatibility with 3.0,
even at the cost of speed.

(As far as HP's New Wave and MS WFW 1.1 go, those were pretty buggy
under 3.0 anyway, and I suspect the same of WPW 🙂 ).

You will need upgraded video drivers to get mouse support in a
DOS Window (for those with ET4000 based cards, I'm getting permission
from the Tseng rep on CompuServe to make them available at cica upon the
release of Win 3.1).

-Tom
[email protected]

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Subject: DR DOS meets Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 19:44:05 GMT
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1. Windows 3.1 is not an operating system (putting on Nomex suit, here
we go again). i.e. If you have a brand new computer with an empty
hard drive and all the Windows software, you only have an expensive
doorstop without some form of DOS.

2. If Microsoft wants to maximise their market penetration, they should
ensure that Windows will run with the popular operating systems that
are now out there.

3. DR DOS 6.0 is taking a SUBSTANTIAL share of the new DOS market, and
I think that it is foolish for a company like MS to produce a utility
product like Windows that will not run under an operating system that
has a significant, and rapidly growing, share of the OS market.

4. I expect that DRI will have a fix available for downloading from
BBS or FTP sites real quick. Do you really believe that DRI will not
de able to get their hands on a beta of WIN 3.1 before April 6??

Roger C. Green,Faculty of Medicine Phone: (709)737-6884
Memorial University , St. John's, Newfoundland. FAX : (709)737-7010


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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 26 Mar 92 13:35:15 MDT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Utah State University
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Bill Endter RCS) writes:
>
> Did Microsoft specify that you must be running MS-DOS V5 to be a beta tester for Windows 3.1? It seems that DR should have been able to find someone who could be a beta tester who was using DRDOS. Or they might have been able to start a small company who could qualify as a beta site.
> I would not be surprised if DR has a version of DRDOS ready to go which supports MS windows 3.1, but they are waiting for the release of Windows before they let anyone know.
>
>
> Bill
I ran the Beta's on three machines, one at work, a laptop, and one at home.
MS did not tell me which operating system to use. Initially all three
computers had DR DOS 6.0. The second beta loaded and ran fine on my laptop, as
did all subsequent betas and the final release build. On the two desktops,
I had to upgrade to MS DOS 5.0 to load WIN 3.1. The only thing that I can
come up with to explain it, is that the laptop is a 286. When windows
starts during the install program, it must come up in 386 enhanced mode if
possible. Therefore I'm guessing that it must be the 386 memory management
that causes the problems. It would have been nice if MS would have worked
with DRI, but they certainly aren't obligated to. After all, isn't GEM
Desktop (a direct competitor of windows vers. 1 and 2, and still around)
a DRI product?
--
David Hole FAHOLE@USU
Utah State University [email protected]
Logan, UT Just say snow!

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Subject: Re: MS's deceit, Windows 3.1 (Donald Lehn and his B.S.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Stone)
Date: 26 Mar 92 21:09:31 GMT
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In article <1992Mar26.192903.[email protected]> [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>Since I'm getting sick and tired of reading uninformed idiots banter

I have to wonder who you paid off to give you a Ph.D.

I must admit, even though this list was printed in a trade rag,
I trust that trade rag more than I do you....

If you have a problem with this information, then why don't you attack
the publisher of the magazine, rather than the people who read it.

>As you can see, this is not exactly a fatal problem and it is typical
>of the problems with other apps on the list.



>So for all you cry baby whiners - chill out. Most of the problems
>with the apps on this list are the result of the Vendors not following
>standard Windows programming practices. Microsoft has managed to
>couldn't do this for and these are the few that are on this list.

I suppose that you are the word of God on this right???
🙂


>
>--
>Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
>Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
>National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
>Bethesda MD 20892

I think that for Mr. Lehn, Ph.D. = Psychotic Dork....

Later,
John


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Subject: Excel 4.0 ...or 3.1 ?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 21:14:28 GMT
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I recently purchased excel 3.0 and lo and behold along comes a new version
only a few months later (15 months after initial release).!!!

I feel a little bit peeved at MS. I don't know why they couldn't hold off 3.0
to incorporate some of the added functionality that 4.0 offers. I know its
dog eat dog (get it out the door as quick as you can) out there but this is
ridiculous. Am I supposed to think that the added functionality (flexible
menu bar (which is in WFW 2.0) and statistical funtions) were only made
possible within the past year. At least provide a cheaper upgrade path for
the 3.0 users ($125 come on). Also, doesn't this sound like Excel 3.1 and
not 4.0.

Am I way off base here or what ?

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Subject: Re: RFD: comp.windows.ms reorganization
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bruce Sabalaskey)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 18:28:41 GMT
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I vote YES to the re-org.

I also vote for the names as follows:

comp.os.windows.config (instead of setup)

comp.os.windows.discuss (instead of advocacy)

Bruce Sabalaskey
[email protected]

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Trident blues
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 24 Mar 92 11:41:39 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
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It appears that a new Trident driver for Windows 3.0 may be buggy.
I downloaded file WINDRVC.ZIP from the Trident BBS in San Fransisco.
When I tried to use T800C.DRV for the 800x600x256 mode (1 meg video RAM)
on my 8900c card, Windows would begin to start up but just prior to
the displaying of the icons, it craps out and exits back to the DOS prompt.
Afterwards, I deleted the newly installed driver, and installed the old one.
Windows is now running fine again. The old T800C.DRV is dated May '91,
and the newly downloaded one is dated January '92.

....just thought I'd let ya know.


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Subject: drdos 6.0 and win 3.1
Message-ID: <1992Mar26.1187.20913@dosgate>
From: "roger ramsey"
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:18:05 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey"
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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ET>Will you quit the whining already!!!
ET>
ET>Microsoft owes NOTHING to DR-DOS users. Its loyalty is to MS-DOS user
ET>It's Digital Research's job to make sure their OS _IS_ compatible with
ET>Windows 3.1 AND NOT THE OPPOSITE!!! You took a chance when you bought
ET>DR-DOS copy and now you have to live with it!!! You can be CERTAIN th
ET>there is NO SUCH THING AS "IF OS=DRDOS THEN CRASH" logic in Windows 3.
ET>but you can also be quite sure that Windows 3.1 is intimately dependan
ET>MS-DOS routines and that if DR-DOS is not 100% compatible, it WILL BRE

Hear hear!

Roj

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Subject: windows 3.1
Message-ID: <1992Mar26.1187.20914@dosgate>
From: "roger ramsey"
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:18:06 EST
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JD>> Ace Software AceFile hDC First Apps Memory Viewer 1.0
JD>> Adobe Illustrator Hewlett-Packard NewWave
JD>> Adobe TypeAlign Lotus Ami Pro
JD>> Aldus FreeHand 3.0 >> Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows
JD>> Aldus Persuasion >> Microsoft PowerPoint 2.0e
JD>> Bitstream FaceLift 1.2 >> Microsoft Productivity Pack 1.0
JD>> Borland C 3.0 Winsight >> Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1
JD>> Campbell Services On Time 1.0 NBI Legacy
JD>> Central Point Software PC Tools Norton Desktop 1.0
JD>> Channel Computing Forest and PFS: WindowsWorks
JD>> Trees 2.0a
JD>> Claris Hollywood PowerSoft PowerBuilder 1.0
JD>> Coda Finale SoftNet FAXit for Windows
JD>> Computer Support Arts & Letters Software Publishing Harvard Graph
JD>> for Windows
JD>> Computer Support Picture Wizard WordPerfect for Windows
JD>> First Byte Monologue for Windows WordStar for Windows
JD>Interesting. Buy 3.1 and your recent 3.0 apps, if not made by Microso
JD>won't work, so you better buy Excel 4.0 and Word 2.0. And make sure y
JD>running MS-DOS 5.0.
JD>
JD>Is there a pattern here?

Do we have trouble reading? There are several Microsoft apps listed.

Roj

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Subject: Equations and bibliography in WFW et al.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: 26 Mar 92 21:37:12 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
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Can anyone address either of these two questions regarding Word for
Windows or WordPerfect for Windows:

1) compared to TeX or LaTeX how well do these systems handle
mathematical equations and tables?

2) is there a functional equivalent of BibTeX which permits
easy construction of a bibliography at the end of a document,
preferably by collecting in order of appearance the referenced
works (via mnemonic 'keys', for example) in the running text
and expanding them to full citations using some sort of builtin
database?

Mark S. Petrovic
IBM Research Division
Thomas J. Watson Research Center
Yorktown Heights, NY
Any opinions expressed herein are solely mine, and not necessarily
those of International Business Machines.

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Subject: Re: "Windows Resource Kit"??
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Robert Osterlund)
Date: 26 Mar 92 19:20:21 GMT
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Keywords: Windows Resource Kit,WRK
Summary: Win 3.0 WRK worth it, but just barely
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I purchased the Win30 WRK several months ago. It was moderately useful but
barely worth the purchase price (~$15). It summarized in one place a lot of
stuff I'd already read in computer magazines and learned through exploration.
I was disappointed that the printed docs had *nothing* to add beyond the
terse, thus virtually useless, information given in WININI?.TXT & SYSINI?.TXT.
On the other hand, I was glad to get the hDC Memory Viewer applet, which I
consider to be a must-have Windows utility. (The other stuff--the icon
managers, the "fish" screen blanker, etc.--I deleted from my hard disk.)

I believe that the new WRK includes the latest version of the hDC Memory
Viewer (PC Week reports that the first version is broken in 3.1). Also, I'd
rather have the technical details about 3.1 upfront rather than have to read
it in dribbles in the computer magazines over the next several months. So,
I took a chance and ordered the new WRK along with the 3.1 upgrade. If it
doesn't include the WIN.INI & SYSTEM.INI elaboration I most desparately
seek, I hope Microsoft Press (or whoever) publishes a book on the subject,
and sooner rather than later.

Bob Osterlund
[email protected]
Social Science & Public Policy Computing Center
University of Chicago

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Subject: re: installation help please?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: Andrew Mitz
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 21:43:58 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected]
Sender: [email protected]
References: Newsgroups: <[email protected]>
Organization: National Institute of Mental Health
Keywords: clarkson, packet, driver, windows 3.0
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In article <1992Mar26.123[email protected]> [email protected] (Torben Friis) writes:
>Topic: Windows 3 and the Clarkson Packet Drivers (ver. 9.x)
>
>We would like to know if there are any problems in accessing the Clarkson
>Packet Drivers from a Windows 3 program - and if there are problems, what
>the problems are and hopefully how to solve them.
>
>The problem we are most concerned with is whether Windows will choke when
>a program issues a software interrupt. We should add that Windows must run
>in Standard mode.
>
>Best regards
>
>Torben
>
>P.S.: We would be most happy if you could answer quickly. Our deadline is
>Friday at noon (CET).


WinQVT/NET accesses the packet drivers through Windows 3.

Quote from the documentation:


WinQVT/Net will run only under Windows 3.0 or higher, Standard or 386-enhanced mode. It will
NOT run under real mode! 386-enhanced mode is strongly recommended where available.

The packet driver and protected-mode interface program should be loaded before starting
Windows.


[continued later...]

The Clarkson Packet Drivers

[...]

Since the packet drivers are TSR's, running in real mode, they cannot communicate directly with
WinQVT/Net, which is executing in protected mode under Windows 3.0. In order to effect this
communication, a small interface program is provided.

This program, PKTINT.COM, should be installed immediately following the packet driver. It has
no command-line arguments.

Note: PKTINT.COM pre-empts software interrupt 80h for its own use. This means that you
cannot use this interrupt for your packet driver!



I hope this answers some of your questions.


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Subject: W4W 2.0 & Grammatik Windows 2.0 incompatibility
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Robert Osterlund)
Date: 26 Mar 92 20:42:35 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (News System)
Organization: SSPPCC, University of Chicago
Keywords: W4W 2.0,Grammatik Windows 2.0
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With W4W 2.0, when I load the GMKWORD.DOC file from Grammatik for Windows,
then try to install the Grammatik and FullSave menu options, it chokes
(reporting a Word Basic error that I don't have time to investigate). I
can get around that difficulty by installing these options manually, but
when I Full Save a document, then try to run a DOC file through Grammatik, I
get this error message:

"This file does not match the Microsoft Word processor selected.
Please be sure you've selected the correct word processor."

Reselecting Microsoft Word doesn't work. Neither does running Grammatik
outside of W4W.

I have ordered the new version of Grammatik for Windows, but in the meantime
my old version is useless. (And so, too, is the built-in grammar checker
in W4W, in my opinion.)

Does anybody have a fix? Would a reinstallation of Grammatik help?

Bob Osterlund
[email protected]
Social Science & Public Policy Computing Center
University of Chicago

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Subject: Re: MS's deceit, Windows 3.1 (Donald Lehn and his B.S.)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Bert Moshier)
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:38:47 CST
References: <1992Mar26.191042.12[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Stone) writes:
>In article <1992Mar26.192903.[email protected]> [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>>Since I'm getting sick and tired of reading uninformed idiots banter
>
>I have to wonder who you paid off to give you a Ph.D.
>
>>So for all you cry baby whiners - chill out. Most of the problems
>>with the apps on this list are the result of the Vendors not following
>>standard Windows programming practices. Microsoft has managed to
>>couldn't do this for and these are the few that are on this list.
>
>I suppose that you are the word of God on this right???
>:-)
>
>>Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D. Phone: (301) 496-2885
>>Bldg.37 Rm 3D20 FAX: (301) 496-8419
>>National Cancer Institute / NIH Email: [email protected]
>>Bethesda MD 20892
>
>I think that for Mr. Lehn, Ph.D. = Psychotic Dork....
>
>Later,
> John
>
>/* include | OS/2 2.0, its curtains for Windows! */

Come on everyone, let us converse friendly and not take pop shots at any
individual. There is value to the idea: "Respect the individual. Respect
your competion."

Bert Moshier

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Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1 and QEMM
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Christopher Biow)
Date: 26 Mar 92 22:51:56 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
References: <1992Mar25.[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Keywords: Cooperative Spirit NOT!
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In article [email protected] (Robert L. Howard) writes:
>[email protected] (Brian CAPSON) writes:


>I don't think the issue is whether or not DR-DOS is a "good"
>clone of MS-DOS. I don't think there are any DOS-level
>problems. The problem lies in that once again MS has changed the
>memory management scheme for Windows. Doesn't everyone remember
>the problems with QEMM after 3.0 came out? You had to wait for
>a fix from Quaterdeck. This time around, MS made the decision
>to get Quarterdeck and others in the beta program so that they
>could get upgrades to customers even before Windows 3.1 shipped
>(thus avoiding a repeat of the memory manager fiasco.) The...

Then why is Quarterdeck tech support refusing to say whether current
QEMM releases will work with 3.1? They claim that they won't know if
a new version is needed until 3.1 is released.

>Why does Microsoft insist on changing fundamentals pieces of
>Windows everytime out?

>Doesn't sound very open to me...

The way they are dealing with DR-DOS makes me think they want to
get whacked with a big anti-trust order. But now that Novell owns
DR-DOS, this may be a moot point. Certainly Novell has been told
all the details of 3.1 memory management, etc. Could you imagine the
impact if 3.1 wasn't Novell compatible?

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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Wally Schwarz)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 21:42:34 GMT
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From article <1992Mar26.1929[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Donald A. Lehn):
> So for all you cry baby whiners - chill out. Most of the problems
> with the apps on this list are the result of the Vendors not following
> standard Windows programming practices. Microsoft has managed to
> provide workarounds for most of these but there are a few that it just
> couldn't do this for and these are the few that are on this list.
>

According to the information that I received in the mail from Microsoft, in
their 'Focus on Windows', page 2, item #1, 'Runs all your applications for
Windows 3.0.' So how can Microsoft say in their advertisement that it will
run all of the Win 3.0 applications when it doesn't? Fraud?

Whether or not the problems with the applications are vendors not following
standard programming practices, that is Microsoft's problem since they have
claimed it will run ALL Windows 3 applications.
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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Wally Schwarz)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 21:44:44 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Tom Tanida):
> Compared to these, the Win 3.1 differences are extremely minor.
> I do think MS should have said that 99.9% of Win 3.0 apps will be
> compatible, rather than implying 100%, but there are very few apps
^^^^^^^^

They did NOT imply. They stated EXPLICITY that all applications for Windows 3.0
will run.
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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Brian J Moore)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 23:01:14 GMT
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David L Caldwell) writes:

>>will break to one extent or another. I have got the impression that most
>>of the programs "run" under 3.1, but have problems with TT Fonts and other
>>specific 3.1 features. This is nothing to panic over. Most vendors will
>>have free/cheap upgrades to fix the problems.

>W4W 2.0 is a $129 upgrade from W4W 1.1.

That wasn't the purpose of this upgrade. There is a world of difference
between 1.1 and 2.0, much more than $129 worth.

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Subject: UW upgrade soon?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.)
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Will there be an update to UW soon? I am waiting for the ability to
download and upload. Being able to download in one window and work
in another would be very nice. I suppose the problem of concurrent
downloads might be causing some programming problems. Another nice
feature would be installable terminal emulations. Gee, I can't seem
to think of one package that does that though. VT100 emulation would
be nice.


Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.
[email protected]

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Subject: TrueType font
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Thomas Bauer)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 22:26:19 GMT
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Hello windows users,

I just got my Windows 3.1 upgrade flyer from Microsoft. Just a little
question. In the part about the TrueType fonts, they say 44 fonts
would be added with this accessory. Okay, what are those 44 fonts and
for that matter, what fonts will be coming with Windows 3.1?

Thanks alot,

Dr. Tom


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Subject: cica's True Type fonts
Message-ID:
From: [email protected] (Richard Reiner)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 16:02:11 GMT
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The collection of TT fonts in cica's fonts/truetype directory seems
fairly extensive, but there is no documentation provided with them.
In particular, it would be nice to know what Postscript fonts, if any,
they correspond to. Does anyone know?


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Subject: mem results in 4DOS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.)
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When I bring up 4DOS 4.0 I get a lot of memory.


655360 bytes total conventional memory
655360 bytes available to MS-DOS
521600 largest executable program size

67108864 bytes total EMS memory
4636672 bytes free EMS memory

7602176 bytes total contiguous extended memory
0 bytes available contiguous extended memory
5165056 bytes available XMS memory
High Memory Area in use

I thought I only had 8 MEG installed. Curious.


Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.
[email protected]

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Subject: Re: Win 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jim Mann)
Date: 26 Mar 92 18:29:20 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
(Bill Mammel) writes:
> This week's PC Week listed the following programs as "casualties" to
> the Windows 3.1 upgrade.

Is this the 3rd or the 4th time in a 2 day span that someone has
posted this list?

> This list scares me. What do they mean by "casualties"? Will these
> programs work at all??

People have already responded to much of the list.

First, many folks have stated that they used those Apps with few or
no problems during beta. Many folks have stated that they used
Norton Desktop. I think one person reported a problem under some
situtation where no problem exists under 3.0. However, other than
that it seems to work fine.

Second, someone else noted that these the magazine used a beta copy
to try this out. Now, one purpose of any extended beta like this
(and Microsoft said this up front) was to make sure that as many
things as possible work right in the final release. (If it all
worked already in beta, we wouldn't need a beta.) Thus,
reportedly many of these problems are fixed in the released version.

I think, by the way, that this is one reason most companies like
those using a beta product to sign non-disclore agreements. Otherwise,
the networks are filled with rumors of what doesn't work, even if
it is something that will work just fine in general release.

> Microsoft promised 100% compatibility and I don't look forward to
having
> to buy upgrades for my windows programs. The $49 upgrade could be
> getting VERY expensive.

Microsoft, like anyone in their position (Apple, NeXT, etc.) promised
compatiblity for those apps that were't already breaking the rules.
NeXT promised compatability between release 1 and release 2. Yet
Communicae broke. Why? It wasn't NeXT's fault. Communicae ignored
the NeXT programming rules, and went around the App Kit. Likewise,
Microsoft can't guarantee that programs that break the rules but
happened to get away with it in one release will work in the next.

--
Jim Mann
[email protected]
Stratus Computer

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Subject: RE: RE: WINSPEED DRIVERS
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (John Will)
Date: 25 Mar 92 19:12:00 GMT
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TO: [email protected]
AA.It is not fun making a 30 minute long-distance call across the
.country to download something that you already have. You should
.try it out sometime.

No thanks. It it would make me half as obnoxious as you are, I'll have
to pass.
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. KingQWK 1.05 . You will be told about it tomorrow.


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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1992 00:05:28 GMT
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In article [email protected] (Wally Schwarz) writes:
>From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Tom Tanida):
>> Compared to these, the Win 3.1 differences are extremely minor.
>> I do think MS should have said that 99.9% of Win 3.0 apps will be
>> compatible, rather than implying 100%, but there are very few apps
> ^^^^^^^^
>They did NOT imply. They stated EXPLICITY that all applications for Windows 3.0
>will run.

Wally's assertion is apparently based on the following.

"Introducing Windows 3.1," upgrade notice, p. 16:

"Q. I have a lot of applications I run with Windows 3.0. Will I be
able to run them with Windows 3.1?"

"A. Yes. Complete compatibility with applications for Windows 3.0
was a design goal for Windows 3.1. Microsoft is working closely with
application developers to test their applications with Windows 3.1,
and in some cases has made changes to Windows to enable an application
to run more reliably. Also, many application vendors have upgrades of
their applications that take advantage of new features in Windows 3.1,
such as object linking and embedding (OLE). For the most up-to-date
information on running your applications with Windows 3.1, refer to
the Help file, APPS.HLP, included with Windows 3.1. To view the Help
file, from the Help menu in Program Manager, choose Contents. From
the File menu in Program Manager Help, choose Open, then select the
APPS.HLP file from the File Name box."

Question: Is this claim valid?

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Subject: Re: Microsoft Powerpoint Mac / PC compatability
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jeff Bartels 283-4167)
Date: 26 Mar 1992 23:51:17 GMT
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In article <1992Mar23.150542[email protected]>, [email protected] (Andrzej Bieszczad) writes:
|> In article <1992Mar20.152649.2279@ramon.bgu.ac.il>, [email protected] (Avi Roy Shapira) writes:
|> |>
|> |> Does anyone know how to convert MS Powerpoint files from the PC version
|> |> to the Apple versions. The products work essentially the same way, but do they
|> |> have interchangeable files? Is there a conversion program?

.. stuff deleted ..

|>
|> Ask Microsoft to send you a conversion program ($4). It is a MAC application.
|> I have it, but I have not managed to translate anything - perhaps I quit
|> to soon.
|>

.. stuff deleted ..

The translator in question is a module which is used by Apple File Exchange.
You need to install the translator using AFE, then insert your PC disk into
the Mac's superdrive, then select the translator from the 'MS-DOS to Macintosh'
menu. I've used it. It gagged on huge (50+slides plus graphics) presentations
but did a very good job otherwise.

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Subject: Re: DAMN Trident 8900C Drivers
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Vu Nguyen)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 23:26:35 GMT
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I might be out of my league but have you try deleting the old drivers
in windows "SYSTEM" directory before installing the new one?

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Subject: Missing Links? (was Re: Windows NT)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jim Williams)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:11:48 GMT
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In article <1647[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Calabrese) writes:

>I think the answer is that Microsoft also knows enough about POSIX to get you
>in trouble (couldn't resist 🙂
>
>I'm willing to believe that they'll be POSIX.1 complient (the system
>call level, essentially), but _everything_ is POSIX.1
>

Not quite. My copy of Posix.1 seems to require that the file system
support (hard) links. I make use of links, both soft and hard, in my
own personal files. I am not interested in Windows NT or OS/2 2.0
unless they offer equivalent functionality. I tried to find out once,
but couldn't dig up the information. So, can anyone tell me? Do I
get any kind of links with OS/2 2.0 under HPFS, or Windows NT with
its version of HPFS?

Jim

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Internet: [email protected]: +1 301 286-1131
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Subject: Re: Hard Drive Recommendations?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Michael Benedik)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:59:16 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (J. Lauren Forestell) writes:
>
>Says it. I am looking for a 100 _+ drive for my 386/25. After one of
>my coworkers experience with a 65 meg Toshiba, (two failures in quick
>succession) I realized that some may be better than others. Any suggestions
>will be appreciated.
>
>This is prompted by last night's experience of Windows crashing while
>running a DOS app on a Stacked drive. When I rebooted, I got the ominous
>message that the volume was damaged and quickly discovered that I could
>no longer write to C: drive. Then I made the grievious error of actually
>reading the manual, wherein it told me to run SCHECK/F, then the software
>told me to run CHKDSK/F. The manual went further to tell me that if
>that failed, run a "disk repair utility." I whipped out Norton, but
>alas, to no avail. So this noon I called technical support. Will you
>hold, they asked, the wait is 8-10 minutes. #$%@^! I thought but I called
>back and held. for _35 MINUTES_ (do they own stock in AT&T to supplement
>their income?) before tech support confirmed my worst fears: back-up
>the drive and start over again. Sh*t! Then to add insult to injury,
>the tech guy told me that IF I HADN'T RUN NORTON HE PROBABLY COULD HAVE
>HELPED ME!!! Consequently, I have HAD it with Stacker. Once is quite
>enough, thank you. Maybe if I were running only in DOS stacker would
>be reliable enough, but this is unacceptable. Really, I am not unhappy.
>I would just be happier if the ground opened up and swallowed Stac Electonics.


Get Conner or Maxtor for good quality and reasonably priced IDE drives.


---------------------------------------------------
Michael Benedik
Department of Biochemical and Biophysical Sciences
University of Houston
INTERNET: [email protected]: Benedik@UHOU

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Subject: Re: Hard Drive Recommendations?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Matthew Crocker)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:33:11 GMT
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I just saw a few notes assing by re: stacker
as of now I'm a little tight on space but I would never use stacker!

although stacker is a good program, many drive makers will void the
warrently of HD that have been "stacked". This is because of a few
reasons
1) poeple who use stacker don't need to buy a new HD therefore
the HD maker looses $$$$$

2) The HD maker has to "garantee" the data on a given drive
for a certain period of time. The use of stacker
compression increases the Data per square inch on a
"stacked" drive, Therefore there is a greater possiblity
loosing data.
Loosing a bit in uncompressed data is not as critical
as loosing a bit in compressed data. With compressed
data each bit is very important, loosing a bit can be
desaterous.
When a person looses data on a drive who do they blame?
The drive maker (you said this would last for years).

I'm babbling. Personally stacker is a good program but my data
is worth more than the gain I would achieve by using stacker.

I would rather spend a few hundred dollars on a new HD, instead
of a few days to repair the lost data. TIME IS MONEY
and a few days of my time spent repair (reformatting, restoring)
a killed HardDrive cost me more than a new Hard Drive
(not to mention the headaches of tech support 🙂

Matthew Crocker
[email protected]





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Subject: Re: MS's deceitful advertising for Windows 3.1
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David Charlap)
Date: 3 Apr 92 16:52:36 GMT
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In article <1992Apr1.210913.17019@access.digex.com> [email protected] (Terry Fry) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank Fujita) writes:
>>[email protected] (Timothy Berger) writes:
>>>>Until an employee can be *fully* up and adminstering it in a
>>>>couple hours it won't sell here.
>>>Training doesn't have to be all at once.
>>
>>How about this for a first session.
>> 1) This is how you open a DOS box.
>> 2) Now do what you always did.
>> 3) If you want to learn more, fine, if not, that's fine too.
>>
>>Why does an employee need to be '*fully*' up in a couple of hours?
>>Frank Fujita
>>
>>
>
> 4) Determine why DOS won't run, why the Windows session crashed, or
>what the hell a HIMEM.sys is

Why should an employee me required to know all this. Your company
gets the computers for specific tasks, and I'm sure that installation
isn't one of them. Leave those chores to your MIS or DP department.
Let the users do what they were hired to do.

If your company is so small every person needs to know everything,
then your threat of "it won't sell here" won't really affect the
industry much, now will it?



--
David Charlap Q:"Where do these stairs go?"
[email protected] A:"They go up"
----------------------------
Hi! I am a .signature virus. Copy me into your .signature to join in!

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Subject: STRAW POLL RESULTS: comp.windows.ms reorganization
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (The vote taker)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1992 15:53:22 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
> The current RFD for a comp.windows.ms reoganizations has generated some
> discussion regarding the names of the groups to be created. While the
> actual reorganization is still to be voted on, I am conducting this straw
> poll to determine the preferred names for the groups.

The votes have been counted, using the Single Transferable Vote system to
determine the preferred names. The following is a summary of the results
for each name:

>1. HIERARCHY MOVE
> Assuming that comp.windows.ms is to be moved to the comp.os hierarchy,
> which of the following names would you prefer (assume comp.os.whatever):

A ms-win: 0*
B ms-windows: 18 19 21
C mswin: 12 13 17*
D mswindows: 8 10*
E windows: 7*
* dropped due to receiving the fewest votes

The proposed hierarchy name will be comp.os.ms-windows.


>2. HARDWARE SETUP AND CONFIGURATION GROUP
> Assuming that a group should be created for discussing hardware and
> device setup and installation, what should it be called?

A config: 25#
B hardware: 10 11*
C setup: 12 22
* dropped due to receiving the fewest votes
# dropped as '.config' is to be used for news configuration newsgroups only

The proposed hardware setup and configuration group name will be *.setup.

>3. DISCUSSION AND ADVOCACY GROUP
> Assuming that a group should be created for adversarial discussions,
> comparisons to other operating systems and pro/con Microsoft discussions,
> what should it be called?

A advocacy: 20 21
B d: 17#
C discuss: 10 15*
* dropped due to receiving the fewest votes
# dropped as '.d' is no longer acceptable as a newsgroup name

The proposed discussion and advocacy group name will be *.advocacy.

And, please remember:

> Note that you will still be free to vote YES or NO for each individual
> item when the CFV (Call for Votes) is posted; this poll is simply a
> method to determine the preferred names.

The Call for Votes will be posted on the weekend.

[ \tom haapanen "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ [email protected] "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software "to thine own self be true" -- hamlet ]

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Subject: Re: *** Help with greek letters in EXCEL ***
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (W. Jim Jordan)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 17:06:20 GMT
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In article <1[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>>I have EXCEL3.0 and I would like to write in a cell
>>
>>25 "micro"g/mL by using greek letter "mu".
>>
>>Is it possible to have in a single cell symbol font and another font ?

>You can mix fonts in text boxes but not in text cell contents or in format
>strings.

I think, though, that the standard Windows character set has a mu in the
upper half of the table. You will need to key the symbol as alt+0nnn, where
nnn is the location of the symbol in the table.

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Subject: Re: Can't log into cica under anonymous - my problem?
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From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 12:22:36 -0500
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Federico Luis Mattioli) writes:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>p[email protected] (Peter Burke, MIC, 608-263-7744) writes:
>> Since yesterday afternoon I've been unable to ftp to
>> cica.cica.indiana.edu. I can easily do it at other sites, so what's
>> going on?

Cica's disk crashed 8-(

Also I think logins are restricted to after working hours
and weekends.

Try the mirror site at wuarchive.wustl.edu.

/mirrors/win3


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Subject: Re: Would I upgrade to Win3.1?READ/NEXT
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From: [email protected] (Amund Skavhaug)
Date: 3 Apr 92 16:48:59 GMT
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As for the rumour of not running windows apps as fast as 3.0, its
a LOT faster than windows 3.0.
Compatible with 3.1 ? How could it be ? 3.1 was released at about the
same time as os2 2.0, it takes SOME time to integrate the latest changes in the
source. (But most of the API are _rumored_ by "insiders" to be in place.)
Faster than 3.1 ? Well, if you are used to real multitasking, and are therefore
able to work that way its sure also a lot faster than 3.1.
I speek based on a lot of experience, I wonder what the people in Infoworld
does....
.....I rather drive a porche than something styled to look like it....
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Subject: Re: Windows an OS? [was Re: STRAW POLL: ...]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Iskandar Taib)
Date: 3 Apr 92 17:37:01 GMT
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Emacs runs on top of TECO. Is emacs not a "real" text
editor then?

I find this whole thread kinda silly. Whether or not
Windows is an OS simply depends on how one defines

"Operating System". Mac, and especially Amiga people
will argue till green in the face that DOS isn't an
OS. Fine. Who cares.

I'd rather they didn't put an "os" in the hierarchy
but thats simply because I hate typing extra key-
strokes. Why not just comp.mswin.?????.


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Subject: Re: The Windows 3.1 Casualty List
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[email protected] (Brad Banko) writes:

> I say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. What advantages does Windows 3.1
> offer the application user and applications programmer that it is worth
> hassling with an upgrade? (I've had very few problems with Windows 3.0 on my
> system.)
>
> Brad Banko

What does it offer? Faster graphic (GDI) routines, enhanced virtual memory
support, object linking and embetting, dynamic data exchange, scalable
fonts, enhanced printer drivers, advanced power management capabilities,
enhanced DOS support, crash recovery capabilities and better network
support. Not to mention that even the build 58 beta of 3.1 was less buggy
than the release version of 3.0a. So a few programs require an update... a
lot less than those 2.x applications jumping to 3.0.

Remember the adage in this industry: If it works, its probably obsolete.

Joe

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Subject: HELP WITH BOCA BOARD
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From: [email protected] (donald.f.dodier)
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A friend of mine has a 286 clone with 1meg of ram on the mother board.
He also has BOCA BRAT90 board with 8meg of ram. When he uses the drivers
that came with the board the system hangs. He has call BOCA and they
could not help him. Any help on this issue would be welcomed.

Please E-mail me any ideas as I do not read this group often.


Thanks
Donald Dodier
[email protected]

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In article [email protected] (Shiva Shenoy) writes:
>Since there were a few requests for this I picked this up from the
>comp.os.os2.misc and am posting it here.
>
>Article: 13136 of comp.os.os2.misc
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>From: [email protected] ($2e9 man)
>Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
>Subject: I give up!
>Keywords: Look at the date
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Date: 1 Apr 92 22:42:53 GMT
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>
>Aloha OS/2ers,
>
>I took time off from my corporate life to check out the OS/2
>intro in New York. I really had to see for my self if IBM
>could make a "better Windows than Windows". Well I was
>impressed! I now hearby declare that it is and always
>has been Microsofts policy to promote OS/2 as the future
>in microcomputing and Windows/NT will be renamed back
>to OS/2 3.0.
>
>Thank You,
>William Gates
>-- Certainly a Microsoft Spokesman

Take this with a grain of salt, it's obviously a forgery. Bill Gates'
login name at Microsoft isn't bgates, but billg. I can't imagine that
he'd waste his time reading the OS/2 newsgroup anyway...

- Brian


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Subject: Re: OLE facility
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ted Kim (Random Dude)) writes:
>Where can I find information about the OLE facility under Windows?
>
>Have there been any techincal papers published about its design?
>Is there some manual or book available on the subject, which is relatively
>seperate from the rest of Windows documentation?
>
>My apologies if this has been asked before or if it is on a FAQ list ..
>
>Thanks,
>-ted
>
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Ted,

Try picking up Micrsoft Journal today, This month issue is about OLE
it ahs some C code for examples. Although its not complete it will point
you in the right direction. (for only $7 🙂

Matthew Crocker
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Subject: Re: WinQVT UAE in Windows 3?
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In article , [email protected] (Alvin Poon) writes:
> Dear netters,
>
> I have frequent UAEs with WinQVT 4.77 running on 286. Whenever I try to
> invert the screen display when connected to a host, I get an UAE, and the
> program is terminated. Also, while downloading files in the background, I
> get UAEs firing up other applications sometimes. Does anyone have the same
> problem? Can anyone help?
>

I have a good solution.
Use OS2QVT available at novell.com. It runs under OS/2 and doesn't have
any UAE's. V2 is only $49 upgrade from Windows.

5000
Gregg horan

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Subject: Mouse in DOS window????? Was: Re: VGA in DOS windows
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In article , [email protected] (Stefan Olson) writes:
> [email protected] (Kwan-Ju Chen) writes:
>
> > Does Windows 3.1 supports vga mode under DOS windows?
>
> Sure does, and what's more it displays DOS icons correctly (the icon you
> use the the PM displays when minimized!!)
> You can alos use the mouse in a dos window...
>
> ...Stefan

This is the one thing I haven't got working!! Several people claim that
the DOS application will react to mouse activity, even if it's reduced to
a window in 386 enhanced mode. I can't get this to work!

By default, nothing happened when I used the mouse in the DOS window.
Then, by changing some option in the Control Panel, I got back to the
normal cut and paste of Win30 by default...

Do I need a special mouse driver, or what?

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