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I'm basing this on the fact that many of the remnants,
including I-beam pieces that were present, had strange
hieroglyphic typewriting symbols across the inner surfaces,
pink and purple, except that I don't think there were any
animal figures present as there are in true Egyptian
hieroglyphics.

The remainder of the debris was just described as
nondescript metallic debris, or just shredded fragments, but
there was a fair amount of the intact I-beam members
present. I only saw a small portion of the debris that was
actually present at the crash site.

[Here is what Jesse Marcel Jr said on the American
television program "Unsolved Mysteries".]

When [Dad] came back to the house he had a bunch of wreckage
with him at the time, and he brought the wreckage into the
house. Actually wakened my mother and myself out so we
could view this, because it was so unusual. This was about
two o'clock in the morning as I recall, and he spread it out
so we could get some basic idea what it looked like, what it
was....

We were all amazed by this debris that was there, primarily
because we didn't know what it was, you know, it was just
the unknown....

This writing [on a short piece of I-beam] could be described
as like hieroglyphics, Egyptian-type hieroglyphics, but not
really. The symbols that were on the I-beams were more of a
geometric-type configuration in various designs. It had a
violet-purple type color and was actually an embossed part
of the metal itself.

Years after this incident happened, we would talk privately
among ourselves about what the possibilities of this, what
this thing was. And I feel that we, well I know that we
came to the conclusion it was not of earthly origin.

If I had not actually held pieces of it in my hand, I would
not think that it would be possible. But because I happened
to see this, that's the only reason I believe it....

My dad said obviously it [the weather balloon story] was a
cover-up story, it was not a weather balloon. He was a
little disturbed about that, but he had his own security
classification to protect. He could not really go public
with, hey this is not the real thing, I mean this is not a
weather balloon. So he had to keep that to himself.



5.3 Walter Haut

[Second Lieutenant Walter Haut was a public information
officer at Roswell AAF in 1947. Colonel Blanchard ordered
Haut to issue a press release telling the country that the
Army had found a flying saucer. Here is the text of Haut's
press release.]

The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality
yesterday when the Intelligence office of the 509th Bomb
Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was
fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the
cooperation of one of the local ranchers and the sheriff's
office of Chaves County.

The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime
last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored
the disc until such time as he was able to contact the
sheriff's office, who in turn notified Maj. Jesse A. Marcel
of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence Office.

Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at
the rancher's home. It was inspected at Roswell Army Air
Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher
headquarters.

[Here is what Haut said on the American television program
"Unsolved Mysteries".]

I took the release into town. And that was one of the
things that Colonel Blanchard told me to do, take it into
town, because if there was any validity to this, he didn't
want the news media to feel that we had jumped over their
heads and were not cooperating with them.

[Here is what Haut said in an interview for an article in
"Air and Space/Smithsonian" magazine, Sep-Oct 1992, when
asked what he thought really happened back in 1947.]

I feel there was a crash of an extra-terrestrial vehicle
near Corona.



5.4 Bill Rickett

[Bill Rickett was a Counter Intelligence Corps officer based
in Roswell. He had an opportunity to examine some of the
wreckage recovered from the Foster Ranch. He escorted Dr
Lincoln LaPaz, a meteor expert from the New Mexico Institute
of Meteoritics, on a tour of the crash site and the
surrounding area.]

[The material] was very strong and very light. You could
bend it but couldn't crease it. As far as I know, no one
ever figured out what it was made of....

It was LaPaz's job to try to find out what the speed and
trajectory of the thing was. LaPaz was a world-renowned
expert on trajectories of objects in the sky, especially
meteors, and I was told to give him all the help I could.

At one point LaPaz interviewed the farmer [Mac Brazel]. I
remember something coming up during their conversation about
this fellow thinking that some of his animals had acted
strangely after this thing happened. Dr LaPaz seemed very
interested in this for some reason.

LaPaz wanted to fly over the area, and this was arranged.
He found one other spot where he felt this thing had touched
down and then taken off again. The sand at this spot had
been turned into a glass-like substance. We collected a
boxful of samples of this material. As I recall, there were
some metal samples here, too, of that same sort of thin foil
stuff. LaPaz sent this box off somewhere for study; I don't
know or recall where, but I never saw it again. This place
was some miles from the other one.

LaPaz was very good at talking to people, especially some of
the local ranch hands who didn't speak a lot of English.
LaPaz spoke Spanish. I remember he found a couple of people
who had seen two -- I don't know what to call them, UFOs I
suppose -- anyway, had seen two of these things fly over
very slowly at a very low altitude on a date, in the
evening, that he determined had been a day or two after the
other one had blown up. These people said something about
animals being affected, too....

Before he went back to Albuquerque, he told me that he was
certain that this thing had gotten into trouble, that it had
touched down for repairs, taken off again, and then
exploded. He also felt certain there were more than one of
these devices, and that the others had been looking for it.
At least that's what he said. He was positive the thing had
malfunctioned.

The Air Force's explanation that it was a balloon was
totally untrue. It was not a balloon. I never did know for
sure what its purpose was, but it wasn't ours. I remember
speculating with LaPaz that it might have been some higher
civilization checking on us. LaPaz wasn't against the idea,
but he was going to leave speculations out of his report.

5.5 F.B.

[F.B. was an Army Air Forces photographer stationed at
Anacostia Naval Air Station in Washington DC when he and
fellow photographer A.K. were flown aboard a B-25 bomber to
Roswell Army Air Field sometime during the second week of
July 1947. F.B. was interviewed by Stanton Friedman.]

One morning they came in and they said, "Pack up your bags
and we'll have the cameras there, ready for you." We didn't
know where we was going.

[After a few hours' flight, they arrived at Roswell.] We
got in a staff car with some of the gear they had brought
along with us in trucks, and we headed out, about an hour
and a half, we was heading north.

We got out there [one of the crash sites in the Corona area]
and there was a helluva lot of people out there, in a closed
tent. You couldn't hardly see anything inside the tent.
They said, "Set your camera up to take a picture fifteen
feet away." A.K. got in a truck and headed out to where
they was picking up pieces. All kinds of brass running
around. And they was telling us what to do. Shoot this,
shoot that. There was an officer in charge. He met us out
there and he'd go into the tent and he'd come back and tell
us, "OK." He'd stand there right besides us and [say], "OK,
take this picture."

There was four bodies I could see when the flash went off,
but you was almost blind because it was a beautiful day,
sunny. You'd go in this tent, which was awful dark. That's
all I was taking, bodies. These bodies was under a canvas,
and they'd open it up and you'd take a picture, flip out
your flashbulb, put another one in [take another picture]
and give him the film holder (each holder held two sheets of
four-by-five inch cut film) and then you went to the next
spot.

I guess there was ten to twelve officers, and when I got
ready to go in, they'd all come out. The tent was about
twenty by thirty foot. The bodies looked like they was
lying on a tarp. One guy did all the instructions. He'd
take a flashlight and he'd come down there. "See this
flashlight?" Yes sir. "You're in focus with it?" Yes sir.
"Take a picture of this." He'd take the flashlight away.
We just moved around in a circle, taking pictures. Seemed
to me [the bodies] were all just about identical. Dark
complected. I remember they was thin, and it looked like
they had too big of a head. I took thirty shots. I think I
had about fifteen [film] holders. It smelled funny in
there.

A.K. came back in a truck that was loaded down with debris.
A lot of pieces sticking out that wasn't there when they
took off. We got debriefed on the way back to the airport
[Roswell Army Air Field]. About four the next morning, they
woke us, they took us to the mess hall, we ate, we got back
on the B-25 and headed back. When we got back to Anacostia
we got debriefed some more, by a lieutenant commander. [It
was made clear to both F.B and A.K. that whatever they
thought they saw in New Mexico, they hadn't seen.]



5.6 Robert Porter

[M/Sgt Robert Porter was a B-29 flight engineer with the
830th Bomb Squadron. He happens to be Loretta Proctor's
brother. He was interviewed by Stanton Friedman.]

We flew these pieces. [Some officers in the crew] told us
it was parts of a flying saucer. The packages were in
wrapping paper, one triangle-shaped about two and a half
feet across the bottom, the rest in smaller, shoebox-sized
packages. [They were in] brown paper with tape. It was
just like I picked up an empty package, very light. The
loaded triangle-shaped package and three shoebox-sized
packages would have fit into the trunk of a car.

On board were Lieutenant Colonel Payne Jennings [deputy
commander of Roswell] and Major Marcel. Captain Anderson
said it was from a flying saucer. We got to Fort Worth,
they transferred [the packages] to a B-25 and took them to
Wright [Field]. When we landed at [Fort Worth], Colonel
Jennings told us to take care of maintenance, and after a
guard was posted, we could eat lunch. We came back, they
told us they had transferred the material to a B-25. They
told us it was a weather balloon. It WASN'T a weather
balloon.

5.7 Robert Shirkey

[First Lieutenant Robert Shirkey was assistant operations
officer of the 509th Bomb Group. He was interviewed by
Stanton Friedman.]

A call came in to have a B-29 ready to go as soon as
possible. Where to? Forth Worth, on Colonel Blanchard's
directive. [I was] in the Operations Office when Colonel
Blanchard arrived and asked if the airplane was ready. When
told it was, Blanchard waved to somebody, and approximately
five people came in the front door, down the hallway, and
onto the ramp to climb into the airplane, carrying parts of
the crashed flying saucer. I got a very short glimpse,
asked Blanchard to turn sideways so [I] could see too. Saw
them carrying pieces of metal. They had one piece that was
eighteen by twenty-four inches, brushed stainless steel in
color.



5.8 Robert Slusher

[S/Sgt Robert Slusher was assigned to the 393rd Bomb
Squadron. On or about July 9, 1947, he was on board a B-29
that carried a single crate from Roswell AAF to Fort Worth
AAF. Also on board were were four armed MPs. He said the
crate was twelve feet long, five feet wide, and four feet
high. Upon arrival at Fort Worth, the crate was loaded onto
a flatbed weapons carrier and hauled off, accompanied by the
MPs, who later rejoined the crew for the return flight.
Robert Slusher was interviewed in 1991.]

[There was an implication that the contents of the crate was
sensitive to air pressure, which suggests that the crate
contained something other than pieces of metal. The plane
flew at the unusually low altitude of four to five thousand
feet. Usually on such a trip a B-29 flies at twenty-five
thousand feet, as its cabin is pressurized and the B-29
flies better at high alititude. However, the bomb bay where
the crate was stowed cannot be pressurized.]

The return flight was above twenty thousand feet, and the
cabin was pressurized. The round trip took approximately
three hours, fifteen minutes. The flight was unusual in
that we flew there, dropped the cargo, and returned
immediately. It was a hurried flight; normally we knew the
day before there would be a flight.

There was a rumor that the crate had debris from the crash.
Whether there were any bodies, I don't know. The crate had
been specially made; it had no markings.



5.9 Robert Smith

[Robert Smith was a member of the First Air Transport Unit,
which operated Douglas C-54 Skymaster four-engined cargo
planes out of the Roswell AAF. He was interviewed in 1991.]

A lot of people began coming in all of a sudden because of
the official investigation. Somebody said it was a plane
crash, but we heard from a man in Roswell that it was not a
plane crash, it was something else, a strange object. There
was another indication that something serious was going on.
One night, when we were coming back to Roswell, a convoy of
trucks covered with canvas passed us. When they got to the
[airfield] gate, they headed over to this hangar on the east
end, which was rather unusual. The truck convoy had red
lights and sirens.

My involvement in the incident was to help load crates of
debris into the aircraft. We all became aware of the event
when we went to the hangar on the east side of the ramp.
There were a lot of people in plain clothes all over the
place. They were inspectors, but they were strangers on the
base. When challenged, they replied they were here on
Project So-and-So, and flashed a card, which was different
from a military ID card.

We were taken to the hangar to load crates. There was a lot
of farm dirt on the hangar floor. We loaded [the crates] on
flatbeds and dollies. Each crate had to be checked as to
width and height. We had to know which crates went on which
plane. We loaded crates on three [or] four C-54s. We
weren't supposed to know their destination, but we were told
they were headed north.

All I saw was a little piece of material. You could crumple
it up, let it come out. You couldn't crease it. One of our
people put it in his pocket. The piece of debris I saw was
two to three inches square. It was jagged. When you
crumpled it up, it then laid back out. And when it did, it
kind of crackled, making a sound like celophane. It
crackled when it was let out. There were no creases.

There were armed guards around during loading of our planes,
which was unusual at Roswell. There was no way to get to
the ramp except through armed guards. There were MPs on the
outskirts, and our personnel were between them and the
planes.

The largest [crate] was roughly twenty feet long, four to
five feet high, and four to five feet wide. It took up an
entire plane. It wasn't that heavy, but it was a large
volume. The rest of the crates were two or three feet long
and two feet square or smaller. The sergeant who had the
piece of material said [it was like] the material in the
crates. The entire loading took at least six, perhaps eight
hours. Lunch was brought to us, which was unusual. The
crates were brought to us on flatbed dollies, which was also
unusual.

Officially, we were told it was a crashed plane, but crashed
planes usually were taken to the salvage yard, not flown
out. I don't think it was an experimental plane, because
not too many people in that area were experimenting with
planes. I'm convinced that what we loaded was a UFO that
got into mechanical problems. Even with the most
intelligent people, things go wrong.

[The C-54 into which I helped load the single twenty-foot
crate] would have been Pappy Henderson's. I remember seeing
T/Sgt Harbell Elzey, T/Sgt. Edward Bretherton, and S/Sgt.
William Fortner.



5.10 Melvin Brown's Daughter

[Sergeant Melvin Brown was a cook at Roswell AAF in 1947.
One day, he was called out to help guard material retrieved
from the Foster Ranch. His daughter Beverly was interviewed
by Stanton Friedman in 1989.]

When we were young, he used to tell us stories about things
that had happened to him when he was young. We got to know
those stories by heart and would all say together, "Here we
go again."

Sometimes, but not too often, he used to say that he saw a
man from outer space. That used to make us all giggle like
mad. He said he had to stand guard duty outside a hangar
where a crashed flying saucer was stored, and that his
commanding officer said, "Come on, Brownie, let's have a
look inside." But they didn't see anything because it had
all been packed up and [was] ready to be flown out to Texas.

He also said that one day all available men were grabbed and
that they had to stand guard where a crashed disc had come
down. Everything was being loaded onto trucks, and he
couldn't understand why some of the trucks had ice or
something in them. He did not understand what they wanted
to keep cold. Him and another guy had to ride in the back
of one of the trucks, and although they were told that they
could get into a lot of trouble if they took in too much of
what was happening, they had a quick look under the covering
and saw two dead bodies, alien bodies.

We really had to giggle at that bit. He said they were
smaller than a normal man, about four feet, and had much
larger heads than us, with slanted eyes, and that the bodies
looked yellowish, a bit Asian-looking. We did not believe
him when we were kids, but as I got older, I did kind of
believe it. Once I asked him if he was scared by them, and
he said, "Hell no, they looked nice, almost as though they
would be friendly if they were alive."

5.11 Pappy Henderson

[Captain Oliver Wendell "Pappy" Henderson was stationed at
Roswell AAF in 1947. He had flown thirty missions in B-24
Liberator bombers in Europe. He had participated in the
postwar A-bomb tests in the Pacific and earned major
commendations for his flying. Unfortunately, he died before
any UFO investigator could interview him, but near the end
of his life he old some of the people closest to him about
what he had seen in July 1947.]



5.12 Pappy Henderson's Wife

[Sappho Henderson was Pappy Henderson's wife. She was
interviewed by Stanton Friedman.]

We met during World War II when he flew with the 446th Bomb
Squadron. He flew B-24s [on] thirty missions over Germany.
After the war, he returned home and was then sent to
Roswell. While stationed there, he ran the "Green Hornet
Airline", which involved flying C-54s and C-47s carrying
VIPs, scientists, and materials from Roswell to the Pacific
during the atom bomb tests. He had to have a Top Secret
clearance for this responsibility.

In 1980 or 1981, he picked up a newspaper at a grocery store
where we were living in San Diego. One article described
the crash of a UFO outside Roswell, with the bodies of
aliens discovered beside the craft. He pointed out the
article to me and said, "I want you to read this article,
because it's a true story. I'm the pilot who flew the
wreckage of the UFO to Dayton, Ohio [where Wright Field is].
I guess now that they're putting it in the paper, I can tell
you about this. I wanted to tell you for years." Pappy
never discussed his work because of his security clearance.

He described the beings as small with large heads for their
size. He said the material that their suits were made of
was different than anything he had ever seen. He said they
looked strange. I believe he mentioned that the bodies had
been packed in dry ice to preserve them.

[Here is what Sappho Henderson said on the American
television program "Unsolved Mysteries".]

My husband Oliver Henderson, otherwise known as "Pappy" in
the Air Force, he was entrusted with many of this country's
top secrets. And they were safe with him. He never told
anything that he wasn't supposed to. And therefore it was
34 years after this incident happened that I heard about
it....

My husband told me the bodies were smaller than human
bodies. The heads were larger and the eyes were rather
sunken and a little slanted. Clothing was of material
unlike anything he had seen before. They were strange, they
were not of this earth.

When my husband, who was a man of truth, who was trusted
with 29 different Army aircraft planes, first pilot aircraft
commander, tells me this story, I believed him.



5.13 Pappy Henderson's Daughter

[Mary Kathryn Groode is Pappy Henderson's daughter.]


When I was growing up, he and I would often spend evenings
looking at the stars. On one occasion, I asked him what he
was looking for. He said, "I'm looking for flying saucers.
They're real, you know."

In 1981, during a visit to my parents' home, my father
showed me a newspaper article which described the crash of a
UFO and the recovery of alien bodies outside Roswell, New
Mexico. He told me that he saw the crashed craft and the
alien bodies described in the article, and that he had flown
the wreckage to Ohio. He described the alien beings as
small and pale, with slanted eyes and large heads. He said
they were humanoid-looking, but different from us. I think
he said there were three bodies.

He said the matter had been Top Secret and that he was not
supposed to discuss it with anyone, but that he felt it was
alright to tell me because it was in the newspaper.



5.14 Pappy Henderson's Relatives

[Stanton Friedman spoke with Pappy Henderson's son and
cousin, both of whom told of having heard Pappy quietly tell
his story after the newspaper article appeared.]



5.15 Pappy Henderson's Friend #1

[John Kromschroeder is a dentist and a retired military
officer. In 1977, Henderson told Kromschroeder that in 1947
he had transported wreckage and alien bodies. About a year
later, Henderson showed Kromschroeder a piece of metal he
had taken from the collection of wreckage. Kromschroeder
and Henderson shared an interest in metallurgy.
Kromschroeder was interviewed in 1990.]

I gave it a good, thorough looking-at and decided it was an
alloy we are not familiar with. Gray, lustrous metal
resembling aluminum, lighter in weight and much stiffer.
[We couldn't] bend it. Edges sharp and jagged.



5.16 Pappy Henderson's Friend #2

[In 1982, Pappy Henderson met with several members of his
old bomber crew during a reunion. One of these men was
later interviewed.]

It was in his hotel room that he told us the story of the
UFO and about his part. All we were told by Pappy is that
he flew the plane to Wright Field. He definitely mentioned
the bodies, but I don't recall any details except that they
were small and different. I was skeptical at first, but
soon saw that Pappy was quite serious.



6 PROSAIC EXPLANATIONS



6.1 Weather Balloon

* If what crashed was a weather balloon, there would have
been no need for secrecy. According to the testimony,
military officers admonished subordinates and civilians not
to talk about what they saw.

* If what crashed was a weather balloon, Major Marcel would
have recognized the material Mac Brazel showed him as
weather balloon material, and would not have journeyed far
out on a remote sheep ranch with an officer from the Counter
Intelligence Corps to examine the crash site.

* The wreckage described by Marcel and others was too
voluminous, and spread out over too large an area, to have
been the wreckage of a crashed weather balloon.

* There is no reason the Army would transport the wreckage
of a weather balloon from the remote desert outside Corona
first to Roswell AAF, then on to Fort Worth AAF.

* Most of the witnesses who saw or handled the wreckage
would have recognized the remains of a crashed weather
balloon.

6.2 Secret Rocket or Airplane

* If what crashed was any kind of secret military
apparatus, one would expect at least some of the pieces to
have recognizable letters or numbers on them. Many of the
witnesses say that some of the wreckage bore a very strange
kind of writing, but not one witness has said that any of
the wreckage bore any recognizable symbols.

* If what crashed was any kind of secret military
apparatus, the Army would have said simply, "This is secret,
and no more questions will be answered, period." The Army
would not have concocted the flying saucer and weather
balloon stories. In 1947, Americans were less skeptical
about the motives of their government, and the people of New
Mexico, including journalists and other civilians, were
dependent for their livelihood on secret military projects.

* If what crashed was any kind of secret military
apparatus, the Army would not have waited for a rancher to
inform them of the crash before sending military personnel
to examine the wreckage, five days after the crash.

* Rockets and airplanes that were secret in 1947 are not
secret now. If what crashed was a secret rocket or
airplane, it would have been revealed as such years ago.
(Incredibly, the Army is sticking to its weather balloon
story, even though nobody believes it anymore.)

* By July 1947, rockets launched from White Sands were
fitted with self-destruct mechanisms so that an errant
rocket could be destroyed before leaving the test range.
The Corona crash site is about 75 miles from the nearest
border of the test range.

* They did not fly secret airplanes in New Mexico in 1947.
There was plenty of room for that in California, where all
the secret airplane projects were carried on.

* There is no reason the Army would transport the wreckage
of a crashed rocket or airplane to Fort Worth AAF, then to
Wright AAF in Ohio. The wreckage of a secret rocket would
stay in New Mexico, and the wreckage of a secret airplane
would be sent back to California, if anywhere.

* Most of the witnesses who saw or handled the wreckage
would have recognized the remains of a crashed rocket or
airplane.

** End of article **

Don

* Origin: You visit the zoo but you don't *contact* the lizards
(1:123/26.1)